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echim posted a topic in Networking, Networked Audio, and StreamingHello everyone. I am in research for a streamer or network audio player. Expectations: - it can read mp3, flac and DSD from NAS (network attached storage, in my case Synology DS212j) and USB memory stick - it should transport digital signal (via SPDIF or USB) to external DAC - reliable while operating - price of the player should be within 1500€ (linear power supply included) - I don't want solutions that need external display (e.g. computer monitor). It should be HiFi device that can be turned on via button Advantage: - dedicated mobile application, and not just web control interface - AirPlay - Internet radio - streaming services Current candidates: - Sonore microRendu - no dedicated application. 640 $ + linear power supply. - Sonore ultraRendu - no dedicated application. They say at several forums that this model is better than its predecessor. 875 $ + linear power supply - SOtM sMS-200 - no dedicated application, didn't hear it. 450 $ + linear power supply - SOtM sMS-200ultra - no dedicated application. They say at several forums that this model is better than its predecessor. 1200 $ + linear power supply - Auralic Aries Mini - dedicated application. AirPlay + internet radio. 550€ + linear power supply - Auralic Aries LE - dedicated application. AirPlay + internet radio. I heard there are several problems with the stability caused by network problems. 1000€ + linear power supply - Auralic Aries - dedicated application. AirPlay + internet radio. I heard several problems with the stability caused by network problems. I do not know the price. - Bluesound Node 2 - dedicated application, Airplay, internet radio. No DSD support. 600€. - Electrocompaniet Rena S1 - dedicated application, Airplay, internet radio. 600€. - Onkyo NS-6170 - dedicated application, Airplay, internet radio. 350€. I heard only Sonore microRendu which had great sound for me. There are not candidates: - Raspberry Pi - there is no customized version of the HiFi I just buy, without having to do anything, put together, buy separately etc. that is sonically good enough for my system. Correct me if I'm wrong. - Aurender - great equipment but out of the price category. - dCS Network Bridge - great equipment, but out of the price category. Questions - do you have candidates to add to this list? - did you ever heard one of this candidates or can you compare it? It is own hearing experience that is most relevant to me, not reviews from 3rd sources. - if there is perfect or near-perfect process of comparing different streamers, what would it be? I noticed there are no such information available publicly. Many thanks!
A plea to the community: Would someone out there with access to some lab-grade test gear and a true reference DAC perform a legitimate head-to-head among JPlay and the other music players? I will admit that I am a JPlay believer (please don't hate). And I am bothered that there seems to be no measurable proof of its effectiveness. (And please spare me the speech about how something does not need to be measurable to be significant.) I have read some very thoughtful and clever experiments posted online that ultimately cannot demonstrate a measurable difference between, for instance, JPlay and JRiver. But I am left unconvinced because the test gear itself always seems inadequate. The last one I read was a very well-designed experiment with a write up from a guy who was obviously very smart, but the measurements were captured using a PC sound card with a specified -89dB noise floor on its ADC. Don't get me wrong, I realize this is a pretty tall order. Assuming a difference does actually exist, I would expect capturing that difference would require a system with incredible resolution and repeatability. But I have read online reviews from individual contributors that featured extremely expensive gear from Audio Precision, Rohde & Schwarz... my assumption is they had access to these assets at work (which is awesome). So, would someone with one of these $100k analyzers sitting around the office sneak a reference DAC into their lab and perform a rigorous after-hours experiment just to satisfy the curiosity of the audio community? If your boss catches you, you are welcome to throw "a2x024" under the bus...