jvlata Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 https://www.apple.com tmtomh 1 Just for music:Mac Mini 2.3 GHz Intel Core i5 60GB SSD, 16GB RAM (Mid 2011) OS X El Capitan 10.11.3 > WD NAS 6TB > Audirvana+>Roon Server > HQPlayer >iPad for Roon Remote> Teac UD-503 DAC > Audio Quest Cinnamon USB cable > Cambridge Audio Azur 840C > Cambridge Audio Azur 840A > Polk LSi 15 > DIY Speaker Cables. Link to comment
jhwalker Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Really looking forward to the new Mac Mini - I currently host Roon, iTunes, and JRiver MC on an older Mini (which works well), but it begins to stutter with HQPlayer at DSD256 and above. I can't recall what @Miska has said in the past - would HQPlayer run better with the 3.6GHz quad core model or the 3.0GHz six core model? i.e., are clock cycles more important than cores, or vice versa? John Walker - IT Executive Headphone - SonicTransporter i9 running Roon Server > Netgear Orbi > Blue Jeans Cable Ethernet > mRendu Roon endpoint > Topping D90 > Topping A90d > Dan Clark Expanse / HiFiMan H6SE v2 / HiFiman Arya Stealth Home Theater / Music -SonicTransporter i9 running Roon Server > Netgear Orbi > Blue Jeans Cable HDMI > Denon X3700h > Anthem Amp for front channels > Revel F208-based 5.2.4 Atmos speaker system Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 have you seen the pricing on new Mac Mini?? Link to comment
Popular Post jhwalker Posted October 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Ralf11 said: have you seen the pricing on new Mac Mini?? Yes, I have no problem with it. Every Mac I've ever had has lasted 5+ years, and I prefer macOS over any other for ease of use, etc. The configuration I want would be about $1,350. AnotherSpin, mitch751, tmtomh and 1 other 2 2 John Walker - IT Executive Headphone - SonicTransporter i9 running Roon Server > Netgear Orbi > Blue Jeans Cable Ethernet > mRendu Roon endpoint > Topping D90 > Topping A90d > Dan Clark Expanse / HiFiMan H6SE v2 / HiFiman Arya Stealth Home Theater / Music -SonicTransporter i9 running Roon Server > Netgear Orbi > Blue Jeans Cable HDMI > Denon X3700h > Anthem Amp for front channels > Revel F208-based 5.2.4 Atmos speaker system Link to comment
Popular Post Ralf11 Posted October 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2018 I liked Macs until they effed up the OS... lucretius, wdw and semente 2 1 Link to comment
rickca Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 The Mac Mini is a full fledged desktop machine now (if you can live with external graphics card). I don't think the pricing is too crazy for Apple. I am more surprised by an entry configuration iPad Pro at $799. Clearly the strategy of increasing ASP applies to their entire product line. Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
audiophile65 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 3 hours ago, Ralf11 said: have you seen the pricing on new Mac Mini?? Good thing I already got the 2014 mac Mini with 1TB HDD. There is no way in Hell that I am going to pay $2,399 for a 2TB SSD version (aka the new Mini that starts at $799)!!!!! A good $1700 to $2000 would be better spent (and will soon) on a Shunyata Venom PS8 power conditioner with Venom Defender, a Shunyata Delta NR power cable, and the set of 4 iso feet (Shunyata) designed for Venom or Hydra power cond./distrib. They weren't kidding that the new mac Minis would be purely professional applications!! Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 how about some Shunyata RAM ?? wdw 1 Link to comment
Popular Post AudioDoctor Posted October 31, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2018 @audiophile65 Why would you need a 2TB SSD in a Mac Mini? You can get that and more on an external for a lot less. I have a 2011 Mini still running at home on a 60GB OWC SSD. mitch751, AnotherSpin and jhwalker 1 2 No electron left behind. Link to comment
kirkmc Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 10 hours ago, rickca said: The Mac Mini is a full fledged desktop machine now (if you can live with external graphics card). I don't think the pricing is too crazy for Apple. I am more surprised by an entry configuration iPad Pro at $799. Clearly the strategy of increasing ASP applies to their entire product line. It was a full-fledged desktop machine in the past too. I used a Mac mini as my desktop Mac for a couple of years. The problem is that they hadn't updated it for four years. I'm still using my late 2011 Mac mini as a media server, and probably won't upgrade until it dies, but the specs on the new one are very nice. I write about Macs, music, and more at Kirkville. Author of Take Control of macOS Media Apps. Co-host of The Next Track podcast. Link to comment
kirkmc Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 6 hours ago, AudioDoctor said: @audiophile65 Why would you need a 2TB SSD in a Mac Mini? You can get that and more on an external for a lot less. I have a 2011 Mini still running at home on a 60GB OWC SSD. Exactly. You'd be foolish to pay for 2 TB internal unless you plan to do serious work on that machine. An external SSD, even with USB-3, is more than fast enough for a media server. I write about Macs, music, and more at Kirkville. Author of Take Control of macOS Media Apps. Co-host of The Next Track podcast. Link to comment
jhwalker Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 9 hours ago, kirkmc said: Exactly. You'd be foolish to pay for 2 TB internal unless you plan to do serious work on that machine. An external SSD, even with USB-3, is more than fast enough for a media server. Right - my existing Mini has 256GB of flash storage, but only about 60GB used for OS and assorted applications (e.g., iTunes, JRiver MC, Roon, etc.). I could easily have gotten by with a 128 (or even 64!). I saw a write-up on Darko's site today about how a fully-loaded Mini would be over $4k. I guess that's true, but who would ever put in 64GB of RAM, a 2TB SSD, and 10Gb Ethernet for a music server? The configuration I'm craving would be the top CPU (i.e., the six-core i7) with 16GB RAM and 256GB SSD. That'd do me just fine John Walker - IT Executive Headphone - SonicTransporter i9 running Roon Server > Netgear Orbi > Blue Jeans Cable Ethernet > mRendu Roon endpoint > Topping D90 > Topping A90d > Dan Clark Expanse / HiFiMan H6SE v2 / HiFiman Arya Stealth Home Theater / Music -SonicTransporter i9 running Roon Server > Netgear Orbi > Blue Jeans Cable HDMI > Denon X3700h > Anthem Amp for front channels > Revel F208-based 5.2.4 Atmos speaker system Link to comment
57gold Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Waiting on Miska to check the new Mini out. I'm stuck on DSD128 with my late 2012 Quad Core. Limited to DSD256 with Mytek B+, so not sure what processor option to pick. Tone with Soul Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, jhwalker said: Right - my existing Mini has 256GB of flash storage, but only about 60GB used for OS and assorted applications (e.g., iTunes, JRiver MC, Roon, etc.). I could easily have gotten by with a 128 (or even 64!). I saw a write-up on Darko's site today about how a fully-loaded Mini would be over $4k. I guess that's true, but who would ever put in 64GB of RAM, a 2TB SSD, and 10Gb Ethernet for a music server? The configuration I'm craving would be the top CPU (i.e., the six-core i7) with 16GB RAM and 256GB SSD. That'd do me just fine What do you have on there? I am using 34.4GB (I just checked) on mine, that's the OS and as few apps as possible. No electron left behind. Link to comment
jhwalker Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 3 hours ago, AudioDoctor said: What do you have on there? I am using 34.4GB (I just checked) on mine, that's the OS and as few apps as possible. Thanks for prompting - I never paid much attention as I had so much space left but thought I'd check it out. Main culprits: System 39.99GB Documents 6.71GB Applications 6.64GB GarageBand Sound Library 2.49GB I did a little cleanup and was able to get it down to: System 37.32GB Documents 1.50GB Applications 1.50GB GarageBand Sound Library 0.00GB That's about as low as I could go - final usage is about 41GB with latest macOS (Mojave) and 16GB RAM. John Walker - IT Executive Headphone - SonicTransporter i9 running Roon Server > Netgear Orbi > Blue Jeans Cable Ethernet > mRendu Roon endpoint > Topping D90 > Topping A90d > Dan Clark Expanse / HiFiMan H6SE v2 / HiFiman Arya Stealth Home Theater / Music -SonicTransporter i9 running Roon Server > Netgear Orbi > Blue Jeans Cable HDMI > Denon X3700h > Anthem Amp for front channels > Revel F208-based 5.2.4 Atmos speaker system Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 did you let the OS turn on file compression ? Link to comment
audiophile65 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 20 hours ago, AudioDoctor said: @audiophile65 Why would you need a 2TB SSD in a Mac Mini? You can get that and more on an external for a lot less. I have a 2011 Mini still running at home on a 60GB OWC SSD. Well, an external SSD would be an option to consider. I can always consider that at a later time and use it with my 2014 Mac Mini. I wonder if anyone here has a 2014 Mini and if they use an ext. SSD? The only reason I mention all the Shunyata stuff is because they are all I need to finally get my system up and running/burned in optimally. Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 1 hour ago, jhwalker said: Thanks for prompting - I never paid much attention as I had so much space left but thought I'd check it out. Main culprits: System 39.99GB Documents 6.71GB Applications 6.64GB GarageBand Sound Library 2.49GB I did a little cleanup and was able to get it down to: System 37.32GB Documents 1.50GB Applications 1.50GB GarageBand Sound Library 0.00GB That's about as low as I could go - final usage is about 41GB with latest macOS (Mojave) and 16GB RAM. My 2011 Mini is still on High Sierra System: 19.54GB iOS files(which are now gone) 3.45GB Apps: 1.36GB and Other Volumes 2.81GB for some reason my Free Space went down... I don't get it. Whatever Apple is doing with "Free Space" and "Purgable Space" makes no sense. No electron left behind. Link to comment
Tone Deaf Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 1 hour ago, audiophile65 said: Well, an external SSD would be an option to consider. I can always consider that at a later time and use it with my 2014 Mac Mini. I wonder if anyone here has a 2014 Mini and if they use an ext. SSD? I use an Oyen Digital MiniPro RAID V2 with mine. Main System: Mac mini (Audirvana+, MMK, JS-2) -> ISO Regen (LPS-1) -> Icron 2201 (Rex LPS-1.2) -> ISO Regen (LPS-1.2) -> Ayre QB-9 Twenty -> Headamp GS-X Mk2 -> Classe CT-M600 -> KEF Reference 201/2 Link to comment
jhwalker Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 21 hours ago, Ralf11 said: did you let the OS turn on file compression ? I'm not aware of this option - I know there is a file compression option in Windows, but I don't recall seeing in OS X or macOS, certainly not in many years. John Walker - IT Executive Headphone - SonicTransporter i9 running Roon Server > Netgear Orbi > Blue Jeans Cable Ethernet > mRendu Roon endpoint > Topping D90 > Topping A90d > Dan Clark Expanse / HiFiMan H6SE v2 / HiFiman Arya Stealth Home Theater / Music -SonicTransporter i9 running Roon Server > Netgear Orbi > Blue Jeans Cable HDMI > Denon X3700h > Anthem Amp for front channels > Revel F208-based 5.2.4 Atmos speaker system Link to comment
kirkmc Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, jhwalker said: I'm not aware of this option - I know there is a file compression option in Windows, but I don't recall seeing in OS X or macOS, certainly not in many years. No such thing on macOS. I write about Macs, music, and more at Kirkville. Author of Take Control of macOS Media Apps. Co-host of The Next Track podcast. Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 https://support.apple.com/kb/PH25411?locale=en_US Link to comment
jhwalker Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 13 minutes ago, Ralf11 said: https://support.apple.com/kb/PH25411?locale=en_US That's for individual files / folders, not the file system, per se. I guess you COULD compress your boot disk, but I've never seen that be anything but a hassle. I also don't encrypt my boot disk, as my computer is never outside my house, and there's nothing on it anyone would want, in any case John Walker - IT Executive Headphone - SonicTransporter i9 running Roon Server > Netgear Orbi > Blue Jeans Cable Ethernet > mRendu Roon endpoint > Topping D90 > Topping A90d > Dan Clark Expanse / HiFiMan H6SE v2 / HiFiman Arya Stealth Home Theater / Music -SonicTransporter i9 running Roon Server > Netgear Orbi > Blue Jeans Cable HDMI > Denon X3700h > Anthem Amp for front channels > Revel F208-based 5.2.4 Atmos speaker system Link to comment
kirkmc Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 24 minutes ago, Ralf11 said: https://support.apple.com/kb/PH25411?locale=en_US Did you even read what it says? I write about Macs, music, and more at Kirkville. Author of Take Control of macOS Media Apps. Co-host of The Next Track podcast. Link to comment
audiophile65 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 21 hours ago, Tone Deaf said: I use an Oyen Digital MiniPro RAID V2 with mine. This sounds good, as I have two Oyen MiniPro 1TB HDDs - both 6 years old and still going strong! Link to comment
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