findog3103 Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 Hello, wondering if anyone has a recommendation for powered desktop speakers with music supplied by Airport Express for a room 8 ft by 14 ft. Thanks. Third Floor: AE>Pioneer solid state integrated>Sony PS-x70 turntable>KEF 103.2 speakers Second Floor: Intel NUC>LampizatOr GA TRP/LampizatOr Integrated Solid State amp>triode wire labs speaker cables & power cord and wywires power cords>vapor über auroras speakers Old school: VPI Prime Signature turntable w/ Ortofon Bronze Cadenza cartridge and Technics SP-10 mk2 First Floor: AE>lifatec silflex glass toslink>schiit bifrost über>Kimber kable hero RCA>audioengine 5 Link to comment
jdjaye Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 Lots of people like the Audioengine powered speakers, though I can't say I have heard them personally. Steve Guttenberg of CNET likes them, and he has a pretty good ear. http://store.audioholics.com/product/1819/24/audioengine-a2-powered-multimedia-speakers---black Here's the CNET top powered speakers list: http://reviews.cnet.com/best-pc-speakers/?tag=mncol;pm You might also give the Bose $100 speakers a try from Best Buy - at least you can return them easily if you dont like them. Enjoy Best Stereo System: Wired Sonos Connect -> AQ Cinammon Digital Coax -> Marantz SA-8005 -> AA Black Momba 2 interconnects -> Marantz PM-15S2 -> Kimber 8TC speaker Cables -> Zu Soul Superfly speakers. Ingest> NAS> Distribution: Sony Vaio Laptop ripping via ITunes to Apple Lossless, manually synced to WD Mycloud NAS, Linksys 1900AC Router, Netgear Gig E switch, generic Ethernet cables, TPLinc ethernet power line extenders. Link to comment
Panelhead Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 I replaced a pair of Quad 11L active monitors and a Final Sound S220 sub with a Blue Sky Exo 2.1 system. It has a volume control and accepts RCA and XLR inputs. Guitar Center was blowing out the original series for 169.00 while waiting for the new series with the smaller sub. I have heard the Audioengine speakers, both the A2 and the A5 at RMAF. They are very good sounding, amazing for the price. But the Exo system is even better. It let's you dial in the sub, and has a volume control. It really has bass, which the others only hint at. I doubt if the new Exo is available for less than 200.00. But they should be close to the A5 in price. George 2012 Mac Mini, i5 - 2.5 GHz, 16 GB RAM. SSD, PM/PV software, Focusrite Clarett 4Pre 4 channel interface. Daysequerra M4.0X Broadcast monitor., My_Ref Evolution rev a , Klipsch La Scala II, Blue Sky Sub 12 Clarett used as ADC for vinyl rips. Corning Optical Thunderbolt cable used to connect computer to 4Pre. Dac fed by iFi iPower and Noise Trapper isolation transformer. Link to comment
Shibboleth Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 I have been wowed by all the new Adams: my system is currently completely 'Adam-ised': A3X in the little 'background music' system and S3X-H (truly fantastic) in the proper computer audio system in my listening room. I auditioned many of the Focals (up to and including the almost equally fantastic Beryllium Twins) and both AudioEngines, but the I couldn't live without sheer transparency and the resolution of the Adams. They're a bit lean tonally, but even the baby A3X is a star: so much better than the older models whose gratingly bright ribbon tweeter was way OTT. Where else can you get 4x amps and 2x ribbon tweeters for £350. I've also had the AudioEngine A2s and think they're about as much fun as you can have for £150 or whatever they are these days. When you think what the same budget buys you in terms of an amplifier and passive speakers, it's a no-brainer. Upsetting computers since 1978. Link to comment
findog3103 Posted September 30, 2010 Author Share Posted September 30, 2010 Thanks for the comments and suggestions. I will check them all out. Third Floor: AE>Pioneer solid state integrated>Sony PS-x70 turntable>KEF 103.2 speakers Second Floor: Intel NUC>LampizatOr GA TRP/LampizatOr Integrated Solid State amp>triode wire labs speaker cables & power cord and wywires power cords>vapor über auroras speakers Old school: VPI Prime Signature turntable w/ Ortofon Bronze Cadenza cartridge and Technics SP-10 mk2 First Floor: AE>lifatec silflex glass toslink>schiit bifrost über>Kimber kable hero RCA>audioengine 5 Link to comment
Panelhead Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 I looked up the Blue Sky eXo and see them on clearance from GC online for 349.00. The newer eXo2 has different monitors and sub. The overall SQ of the original is very good. I suppose the new one is just as good and the sub is smaller. George 2012 Mac Mini, i5 - 2.5 GHz, 16 GB RAM. SSD, PM/PV software, Focusrite Clarett 4Pre 4 channel interface. Daysequerra M4.0X Broadcast monitor., My_Ref Evolution rev a , Klipsch La Scala II, Blue Sky Sub 12 Clarett used as ADC for vinyl rips. Corning Optical Thunderbolt cable used to connect computer to 4Pre. Dac fed by iFi iPower and Noise Trapper isolation transformer. Link to comment
bikemig Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 The Zvox units get zero consideration here. I know it's just one box but the sound is really pretty good. I used one originally for my home theater which then lost a use when I upgraded my home theater. So I moved the zvox 325 to my office at work; it creates a very nice soundstage. I've paired it with a nuforce icon udac and for less than $400 it is a great office set-up. Macmini (as server)-> AE Express/SB Touch-> Dacmagic plus -> Outlaw RR2150 -> PSB Image T6 (dedicated 2 channel audio system) Macmini (via toslink)-> NAD T747 -> PSB Imagine B/SVS SB2000 subwoofer (home theater) Macbook Pro-> Peachtree idecco->PSB Imagine Minis, Energy ESW-M8 subwoofer, Beyerdynamic DT880 (home office) IMac->audioengine D1 dac->airmotiv 4 (work system) Link to comment
Ajax Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 I personally think active speakers are the way to go for the best bang for your buck for computerised music. It makes a lot of sense to me to combine the power amp and speakers in one box, as it gets rid off several potential nasty variables such as synergy, passive cross over issues and the need for expensive cables. It aslo gives a very neat and compact solution. Depending on you budget I would second an earlier post to audition the ADAM pro range of active monitors - I have the A7s and love them for their transparancy when played through my Benchmark HDR DAC 1. Each driver has its own amp. They are around US$900 and have balanced and RCA inputs and a remote for volume control and have recently been superceded by the A7X. There are also the A5s at around US$500. I also own Akimates, a combination of Epos speakers driven by Creek amplifiers, at US$400 they are very good value. 5 stars from What hifi etc etc. Check out: http://www.adam-audio.com/en/pro-audio/products/a7x/description http://www.aktimate.com/ Just google these two speakers and you will see all sorts of reviews and comparisons with others. Good luck. LOUNGE: Mac Mini - Audirvana - Devialet 200 - ATOHM GT1 Speakers OFFICE : Mac Mini - Audirvana - Benchmark DAC1HDR - ADAM A7 Active Monitors TRAVEL : MacBook Air - Dragonfly V1.2 DAC - Sennheiser HD 650 BEACH : iPhone 6 - HRT iStreamer DAC - Akimate Micro + powered speakers Link to comment
audiofool Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 I would recommend what Mark Knopfler uses in his studio - ignore the low price. NHT M00's http://www.nhthifi.com/Pro-Users http://www.nhthifi.com/NHT-M00?sc=12&category=1213 Link to comment
drlung Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 With powered speakers as there are few places that have them available for audition. Personally I have had experience with 3 pairs of powered speakers and it depends on how much you want to spend. My office uses nht moo's with their sub. It's is very good. My desk at home has dynaudio m 15 with a velodyne sub. Somewhat better. I also have a par of audio engine 2s with their sub which for the money is good but can't touch the dynaudio. Both of the desktop systems use benchmark Dacs and Dell Pc. However when I send my iTunes through an audio engine wireless to my Conrad Johnson pre amp and then to my ayre amp through my Thiel 2.4 speakers, wowee, it's an unbelievable difference So that's my opinion. drlung Link to comment
findog3103 Posted October 7, 2010 Author Share Posted October 7, 2010 Thanks for all the great information. To clarify, I love my Audioengine 5's very much but for this new room I would just like to have powered speakers with input from an airport express and Mac. I have my main room set up with an Nova and Dynaudio speakers, but for this small room I am going bare bones so I am interested in the best stand alone powered speakers in the Third Floor: AE>Pioneer solid state integrated>Sony PS-x70 turntable>KEF 103.2 speakers Second Floor: Intel NUC>LampizatOr GA TRP/LampizatOr Integrated Solid State amp>triode wire labs speaker cables & power cord and wywires power cords>vapor über auroras speakers Old school: VPI Prime Signature turntable w/ Ortofon Bronze Cadenza cartridge and Technics SP-10 mk2 First Floor: AE>lifatec silflex glass toslink>schiit bifrost über>Kimber kable hero RCA>audioengine 5 Link to comment
j20056 Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 Genelec 8030 or 8040, or anything Genelec makes that you can afford... Link to comment
wgb113 Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 You seem to like Dynaudio, what about a pair of BM5AmkII @ $1000. Bill Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. Mac Mini->Roon + Tidal->KEF LS50W Link to comment
bixby Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 with the crappy analog out of the airport express pretty much anything you throw on that source is going to be limited to say the least. Grab whatever you want in actives it is not going to matter much. Link to comment
ItemAudio Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Most active (rather than powered) speakers are ruthlessly revealing partners: they're designed to elucidate subtle differences. It's worth auditioning a few models specifically to assess their near/far-field performance: some small monitors don't fill big spaces terribly well. Having said that, I've heard few little active speakers I didn't love. Link to comment
spacey Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 I've just bought some ADAM Tensor Deltas. Run them with a Lavry DA11. Upgraded from ATC-50ASL's & BMM DAC1-HDR. Meridian MC200 - DSP6000MKII Link to comment
dBro Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Generally speaking, I would not recommend a powered speaker where the goal is to optimize sound quality. Low-to-mid-priced powered speakers allow us to solve for an efficiency, logistic, or economic issue - And high-end "pro-audio" versions tend to follow the same goals - albeit mostly with a better result; the groundbreaking Meyer HD-1, for example. The nature of the setup, where the amplifier cannot be separated from the speaker, prevents you from testing the quality of either component individually. (And when we can't test, how do we know) In addition, marketing literature and user manuals are under no obligation to reveal the sample depth, sample frequency, amplifier class, and any other measure you might need to make a decision if the components were offered separately. I'm hearing a phase shift and a mid frequency bump. Is it the: A. a poorly designed analog crossover? B. the low-quality DA converter ahead of the class D switching amplifier? C. a resonance from the cabinet? D. EQ software designed to make the speaker sound better? E. all of the above? If you're optimizing for sound quality I would recommend against a powered speaker. dBro (Derek)[br]FLAC > Media Monkey > SPL Volume2 > Adcom > Paradigm Link to comment
spacey Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 You've completely missed the point of active speakers there dBro. They're many many advantages in going active over passive systems. You don't need to do all the messing around matching components, in/outputs and then trying to connect them with some lossy/altering cable sets. Then you have the biggest benifit of all, active cross-overs. Meridian MC200 - DSP6000MKII Link to comment
dBro Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Don't get me wrong, I see the advantages of active systems and have even designed professional editing environments around them. There are some outstanding active systems out there. But for my personal systems I prefer a non-black-box solution that allows me to optimize each of the components. I want to know if the internal amplifier is A, AB, or D. I want to know what equalization might be going on inside the cabinet; analog or digital. I want to know if there's a digital EQ involved, and whether it's 32 bit, floating point, etc. dBro (Derek)[br]FLAC > Media Monkey > SPL Volume2 > Adcom > Paradigm Link to comment
aswillman Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 All great in my experience. I love ATC & you can pick up some 10As on EBay pretty cheaply. They aren't too clinical as some people say - I owned a pair for 18 months & still own some 20As. The Genelecs are wonderful - they were my PC speakers for 2 years. The NHTs prior to this. The Genelecs IMHO were more detailed but ruthless with poorly mastered recordings. NHT were probably my favourites but less trendy! If you get the chance, try all 3 side by side. Wilson Benesch Full Circle[br]Benz Micro LP[br]Cambridge Audio NP30[br]Chord Electronics Blu[br]Chord Electronics QBD76[br]Chord Electronics Symphonic[br]Chord Electronics Prima[br]ATC 20 ASL Towers Link to comment
spacey Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 dBro, all the things you've mentioned are completely available for active speakers. I looked into the spec of the Deltas before i bought them they're exactly what i wanted. Class D for LF/MF and A/B for HF. Power outputs are correct. Inputs are via XLR. Has auto power on/off. Correct input volts and ohms. Frequencies are 32hz-50Khz @ -3db. Then the cabinet design is double skinned with sand inbetween the two, are the correct size for my room and are standmounted. Each speaker is 29kg. All the above would be the same for a passive system. IMHO the only difference is the location of the amps, and the active cross-over/s. Meridian MC200 - DSP6000MKII Link to comment
dBro Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Spacey - I think you're taking my comments personally and I don't mean to have questioned your speaker selection methodology. There are more than enough options and combinations out there to suit any need. dBro (Derek)[br]FLAC > Media Monkey > SPL Volume2 > Adcom > Paradigm Link to comment
spacey Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Please don't think I'm getting personal. That's isn't my intention. I'm just mearly trying to point out the facts I've found, which are active speakers/systems are every bit as specific in choice and in some cases offer further advantages and adjustments. If we're talking cross purposes then I understand, as once you've chosen an active speaker there's little way or chance of changing an aspect without a total change. Which to the audio system tweaker, who likes and want to change things/spec regularly, would be a nightmare. Meridian MC200 - DSP6000MKII Link to comment
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