austinpop Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 I’ve just gotten a Qobuz account, so will be playing with it. Right now, I’m using the desktop app to find high-res content, but actual playback is through the LMS app on my Zenith SE. I’ll be trying Soundiiz to copy Tidal playlists and Favorites. So far, it looks very promising, especially for a classical lover. Room integration should pretty much seal the deal in its favor. Don Blas De Lezo 1 My Audio Setup Link to comment
rodrigaj Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 12 hours ago, jaynyc said: Hi. In the 4th paragraph of the post it says " You'll switch to Qobuz (trust me) " What are the top 3 bullet points why a US Tidal user would be compelled to switch to Qobuz? On the day that I switched to Spotify premium this was pasted on my Tidal home page on my iPad: I never listen to RAP or even pop music, yet I was continually bombarded with this kind of offensive detritus. Mark Dirac 1 "The function of music is to release us from the tyranny of conscious thought", Sir Thomas Beecham. Link to comment
bobbmd Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Chris- thanks again for great info-i had forgotten about soundiiz and am in process of transferring my 166 playlists to Qobuz(which i have had since at least 2013 with my address being Oneida New France which is what the Northeast would have been called if the French had won on the Plains of Abraham!) question- can i transfer all my FLAC/DVD-Audio ripped albums in my iTune library also to Qobuz? if so how? is it the same as Apple Music? thanks again bobbmd David.. Qobuz, Hi-Res Music Evangelist 1 Link to comment
4est Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 3 hours ago, rickca said: There is currently some integration between Roon and HQPlayer. I'm expecting integration between Roon and Qobuz in the RMAF timeframe from the hints dropped by @David.. Qobuz, Hi-Res Music Evangelist. It's possible I'm reading too much into his comments but I don't think so. TY. I am already a Roon>HQPlayer user and am hoping to drop Tidal asap, but maintain HQP upsampling and DSD conversion. I prefer to go direct to HQP. Forrest: Win10 i9 9900KS/GTX1060 HQPlayer4>Win10 NAA DSD>Pavel's DSC2.6>Bent Audio TAP> Parasound JC1>"Naked" Quad ESL63/Tannoy PS350B subs<100Hz Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 5 hours ago, blaven said: Does anybody know if there’s any ability to move playlist off of the Aurender software to other software platforms? For example, I would love to transfer some of those playlists from Aurender onto my Roon stuff, or even in Tidal/Qobuz so it could potentially be used when I’m not at home and streaming to someone else’s device for example or camping and what not. I only know how to move TIDAL playlists off the Aurender, as I have done this before. Any TIDAL playlists you have created on the Aurender, are also in the TIDAL app. So, go check, they may already be there. No electron left behind. Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 3 hours ago, rodrigaj said: On the day that I switched to Spotify premium this was pasted on my Tidal home page on my iPad: I never listen to RAP or even pop music, yet I was continually bombarded with this kind of offensive detritus. That album is on Qobuz as well. No electron left behind. Link to comment
shadowlight Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 6 hours ago, 4est said: I am loving Qobuz so far, and HQPlayer integration would put it over the top in regards to Tidal IMO. If I may ask, what integration is already there? I don't see anything. Then again, I cannot seem to get the desktop app to work. It loads the GUI on Win10,64, but it just sits there unless I am doing something stupid(likely). Do you have any links or a simple synopsis? As of right now I think the only option that I am aware of Qobuz and HQPlayer integration outside of the hints provided by David, is if you are running HQPlayer embedded. I am currently using it in that manner with Qobuz accessed via BubbleUPnP / mConnect Controller --> --> HQPe UPnP Renderer --> Win10 based NAA --> DAC. I also believe you can use Audirvana as UPnP front end for Qobuz and send information along to HQPe. Qobuz is currently working on adding support for UPnP/DLNA to the desktop app. David.. Qobuz, Hi-Res Music Evangelist 1 Link to comment
4est Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, shadowlight said: As of right now I think the only option that I am aware of Qobuz and HQPlayer integration outside of the hints provided by David, is if you are running HQPlayer embedded. I am currently using it in that manner with Qobuz accessed via BubbleUPnP / mConnect Controller --> --> HQPe UPnP Renderer --> Win10 based NAA --> DAC. I also believe you can use Audirvana as UPnP front end for Qobuz and send information along to HQPe. Qobuz is currently working on adding support for UPnP/DLNA to the desktop app. Thank you! Do you know if the desktop app even works at present? Sheesh, I feel stupid, but it just sits there despite my clicking. LOL Forrest: Win10 i9 9900KS/GTX1060 HQPlayer4>Win10 NAA DSD>Pavel's DSC2.6>Bent Audio TAP> Parasound JC1>"Naked" Quad ESL63/Tannoy PS350B subs<100Hz Link to comment
shadowlight Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 1 minute ago, 4est said: Thank you! Do you know if the desktop app even works at present? Sheesh, I feel stupid, but it just sits there despite my clicking. LOL Yes, the desktop apps works fine straight to the DAC but there are stability issues with using it as part of the UPnP controller with HQPe. May I request that we move the desktop issue to so we can keep the current thread on track. If you are still having issues, I can do a quick screen sharing session to see if we can figure out what is going on. Link to comment
4est Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 1 minute ago, shadowlight said: Yes, the desktop apps works fine straight to the DAC but there are stability issues with using it as part of the UPnP controller with HQPe. May I request that we move the desktop issue to so we can keep the current thread on track. If you are still having issues, I can do a quick screen sharing session to see if we can figure out what is going on. Sorry and ty. I'll put in a support ticket now that I know that it is just me. Forrest: Win10 i9 9900KS/GTX1060 HQPlayer4>Win10 NAA DSD>Pavel's DSC2.6>Bent Audio TAP> Parasound JC1>"Naked" Quad ESL63/Tannoy PS350B subs<100Hz Link to comment
rickca Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 42 minutes ago, shadowlight said: As of right now I think the only option that I am aware of Qobuz and HQPlayer integration outside of the hints provided by David, is if you are running HQPlayer embedded. There is also SuperSonic from Geoff Armstrong. Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
rodrigaj Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 2 hours ago, AudioDoctor said: That album is on Qobuz as well. Is it on your home page? For example, I'm sure it is on Spotify as well, but it does not appear on the home page. "The function of music is to release us from the tyranny of conscious thought", Sir Thomas Beecham. Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 37 minutes ago, rodrigaj said: Is it on your home page? For example, I'm sure it is on Spotify as well, but it does not appear on the home page. I dont know, I am using A+, it opens where I left it, which is Classical music. I went to Discover > All Genres and scrolled down a ways and did not see it. However, if I am looking at new releases, it is right there. No electron left behind. Link to comment
rodrigaj Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 19 minutes ago, AudioDoctor said: I dont know, I am using A+, it opens where I left it, which is Classical music. I went to Discover > All Genres and scrolled down a ways and did not see it. However, if I am looking at new releases, it is right there. Right. That is what I mean. When you open Spotify, you get the Overview page. The overview page looks like this: It's comprised mostly of playlists that have lots of followers. Never anything offensive. When you open up Tidal, you are confronted with whatever JayZ and his organization/artists are pushing. That was my problem with Tidal. It's all past tense now for me - Spotify offers what I need until Qobuz comes on board. In fairness to Tidal, I don't think I or any classical music lover was ever their intended audience. "The function of music is to release us from the tyranny of conscious thought", Sir Thomas Beecham. Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 58 minutes ago, rodrigaj said: Right. That is what I mean. When you open Spotify, you get the Overview page. The overview page looks like this: It's comprised mostly of playlists that have lots of followers. Never anything offensive. When you open up Tidal, you are confronted with whatever JayZ and his organization/artists are pushing. That was my problem with Tidal. It's all past tense now for me - Spotify offers what I need until Qobuz comes on board. In fairness to Tidal, I don't think I or any classical music lover was ever their intended audience. I have never once used the TIDAL app, I have always used either A+ or Roon. Perhaps you should give that a try. No electron left behind. Link to comment
rodrigaj Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 At home I use A+ and prior to that I use Lumin App. At the gym I had to use the Tidal app and now Spotify app. Unless I'm missing something, I know of no way to get A+ to work at the gym. "The function of music is to release us from the tyranny of conscious thought", Sir Thomas Beecham. Link to comment
wdw Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Chris, as always, you are the man....thanks for this but I suspect that Canada will need a VPN. wdw Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted August 30, 2018 Author Share Posted August 30, 2018 17 minutes ago, wdw said: Chris, as always, you are the man....thanks for this but I suspect that Canada will need a VPN. wdw Thanks for the kind words. @David.. Qobuz, Hi-Res Music Evangelist What’s the deal with Canada? Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Sevenfeet Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 21 hours ago, rodrigaj said: On the day that I switched to Spotify premium this was pasted on my Tidal home page on my iPad: I never listen to RAP or even pop music, yet I was continually bombarded with this kind of offensive detritus. Unless you're offended by partial nudity, I'm not sure what the problem is. Surely you know that Nicki Minaj is a minority Tidal owner and a huge star in her own right. Why wouldn't they promote one of the bigger album drops this year? asdf1000 1 Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted August 30, 2018 Author Share Posted August 30, 2018 43 minutes ago, Sevenfeet said: Unless you're offended by partial nudity, I'm not sure what the problem is. Surely you know that Nicki Minaj is a minority Tidal owner and a huge star in her own right. Why wouldn't they promote one of the bigger album drops this year? I agree, but I only wish Tidal used some sort of intelligence behind the scenes and used people's listening history to promote items they might actually listen to. P.S. I love Nicki's Pink Friday ... Roman Reloaded album :~) Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Sevenfeet Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: I agree, but I only wish Tidal used some sort of intelligence behind the scenes and used people's listening history to promote items they might actually listen to. P.S. I love Nicki's Pink Friday ... Roman Reloaded album :~) True. Apple Music certainly does that (it's part of the setup process). I can't comment on Spotify since I don't use it anymore. But even if Tidal does/did have some intelligence regarding what new music shows up on the interface, it's entirely possible for that algorithm to be overridden for specific content (like the owners of Tidal ? ). The Computer Audiophile 1 Link to comment
firedog Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Sevenfeet said: Unless you're offended by partial nudity, I'm not sure what the problem is. Surely you know that Nicki Minaj is a minority Tidal owner and a huge star in her own right. Why wouldn't they promote one of the bigger album drops this year? I understand it bothers rodrigaj, and he’s not the only one. I simply ignore it and go right into search or my favorites. If you asked me what album appears when I open Tidal, I could never tell you - I don’t notice. I’m not sure why that is so hard for some other people to do. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
michaelD Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 So maybe I missed something. I read the article and most of the posts but why switch from Tidal to Qobuz? Cheaper, does Qobuz do MQA? Not interested in Roon what? 2 Channel: Bricasti M20, 21 & M28 SE /Aurender N30SA and MC10 Master clock Treatments: Acoustical panels(F, S & R walls) Misc.: SR Master Fuses Speakers: Martin Logan CLX ART (Dark Cherry) w/30# weights / 2-ML 212's Grounding: QKore 1&6 / Networking: SOtM switch, clock and Pwr Supply / AQ Diamond /SR Router Power: Furutech GTX-DNCF / Oyaide inwall wire Nordost: 2-QB8 III, QV2's, QK1's, QSine, QWave, QX4, TC Kones, Sort Fut & LIft / Full OG Loom / 3-QSource & 12-QPoints, QNet, V2 Network Misc.: iPad 6 /Custom Rack Media Rm: ML: 13A's, 2-Descent i's, 6- Vanquish, Focus / 3-Parasound A23 / Legacy iV-3 Ultra / 77" LG 4k OLED / Anthem AVM90 / Pioneer Elite DVD Nordost: Odin/T2/H2, BC Kones, H2 Network, V2 HDMI Link to comment
Sevenfeet Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, michaelD said: So maybe I missed something. I read the article and most of the posts but why switch from Tidal to Qobuz? Cheaper, does Qobuz do MQA? Not interested in Roon what? Two issues. First, there have been serious discussion to the long term viability of Tidal regarding its financial situation. While it's privately held so we don't have a clear picture of what's happening, the rumors have been growing for a while based on the interactions with their content providers. I'm friends with one of the minority Tidal owners but I've not asked him about it. Second, there have been more rumors that Roon may add Qobuz as an alternative to Tidal for those that want Roon to front end that streaming service, especially since Qobuz also supports high definition music (but not MQA). As it stands, Qobuz is not in the United States yet but that day is soon coming. Link to comment
firedog Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 hour ago, michaelD said: So maybe I missed something. I read the article and most of the posts but why switch from Tidal to Qobuz? Cheaper, does Qobuz do MQA? Not interested in Roon what? Qobuz streams not just CD quality but true hi-res (not MQA); the catalog seems to have a better selection of jazz, classical, etc. Not so hip hop oriented. Some of the membership levels in Qobuz give you not only CD and hi-res quality streaming, but also significant discounts on buying music for download. Don Blas De Lezo 1 Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
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