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Hi Guys - It’s time for me to make a change. As much as I love the Andrew Jones’ designed TAD CR1s I’ve been using for years, I’m ready to move on. 

 

Given all the options available and the knowledge of members of the CA Community, I’m asking for help and opinions. 

 

I have an an idea what I want but I won’t say because I don’t want to steer the conversation. 

 

- I need a full range speaker 

- Compatible with a range of amplifiers

- Dont get hung up on price when offering opinions. 

 

I'd honestly love to hear from as many people as possible and hear why they say what they say. 

 

Thanks in advance!

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there are some very fast speakers made in Minnie-sota - the big ones are full range - easy to drive

 

fast; line source; cheap for what they do; nominal 4 ohms; easy to drive...

 

did I mention fast?

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It will take something pretty esoteric for you to not miss the TADs. Maybe some Raidhos with that weird tweeter? KEF usually has some wacky looking Blades or some such.  I have always really wanted to hear some of the Dynaudio Evidence series. If it were my money and I were staying in "audiophile" passive speakers then I would probably go to Vandersteen 7, but I think they now have their own main amplifiers in addition to you having to use the external crossover between preamp and poweramp for the subwoofer amps. 

 

I suppose active speakers aren't really useful for reviewing audio components in the typical way. But that is where the future is...

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Chris:  Is this still for the same listening room?  From your photos it looks almost square, roughly 15 by 15 feet, with limited wall treatments,  if I had to guess.  Does that suggest you will want to stay with more moderately sized speakers?  

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13 minutes ago, sdolezalek said:

Chris:  Is this still for the same listening room?  From your photos it looks almost square, roughly 15 by 15 feet, with limited wall treatments,  if I had to guess.  Does that suggest you will want to stay with more moderately sized speakers?  

 

For now the room is about 15x17 but I could extend it larger. Not sure yet. Room treatments aren’t out of the question because only I have a say in what goes on in my listening room 😁

 

most problematic is the lowish ceiling. 

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4 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

- I need a full range speaker 

- Compatible with a range of amplifiers

 

Hi Chris

 

GoldenEar Triton One REFERENCE. Highly recommend you demo these.

 

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10 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Hi Guys - It’s time for me to make a change. As much as I love the Andrew Jones’ designed TAD CR1s I’ve been using for years, I’m ready to move on. 

 

Given all the options available and the knowledge of members of the CA Community, I’m asking for help and opinions. 

 

I have an an idea what I want but I won’t say because I don’t want to steer the conversation. 

 

- I need a full range speaker 

- Compatible with a range of amplifiers

- Dont get hung up on price when offering opinions. 

 

I'd honestly love to hear from as many people as possible and hear why they say what they say. 

 

Thanks in advance!

 

If you wish to move on in the forwards direction then you must identify/list the shortcomings of your current speakers.

It is also important to provide info regarding room size.

You really should add this information to your fist post.

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If cost were no object I'd have someone design and build me a custom pair.

 

But if you prefer to go for affordable, then are are a couple of suggestion of speakers which I have listened to:

 

TAD Reference One

Vivid Giya G1

Kef Blade

 

And a few of those I haven't listened to but would:

Cessaro Gamma II

The Sonus Faber

Peak Consult Dragon

Bang & Olufsen BeoLab 90

Sony SS-AR1

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Chris, you should try a Rel Subwoofer with your current set up and your future speakers.  With their unique connection method directly from your amplifier, their there to extend those few low end Hz your speakers can't do.   Essential just pressurizing your room.  Whatever you choose for speakers will be great, this is just an add on feature to any speaker system.  Plus, you know where to get them locally.  If you want to borrow my subwoofer to try it out, your welcome to it.  Good luck

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12 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Hi Guys - It’s time for me to make a change. As much as I love the Andrew Jones’ designed TAD CR1s I’ve been using for years, I’m ready to move on. 

 

Given all the options available and the knowledge of members of the CA Community, I’m asking for help and opinions. 

 

I have an an idea what I want but I won’t say because I don’t want to steer the conversation. 

 

- I need a full range speaker 

- Compatible with a range of amplifiers

- Dont get hung up on price when offering opinions. 

 

I'd honestly love to hear from as many people as possible and hear why they say what they say. 

 

Thanks in advance!

Speaker format/size matter to you?

 

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I've always been intrigued by line array type speakers.  You might want to check some out.
There's the Bob Carver, Wisdom, and some others around that are considered top notch. 

 

The big Infinity's I heard years ago were the most realistic thing I'd ever heard (don't know what I'd think of them now).

In that vein, the upcoming PSAudio speakers look interesting. There will be 3 sizes. The biggest ones will probably be too big for your situation, but the middle size ones might do the trick. They are supposedly going to be out in a year (maybe). 

https://www.psaudio.com/pauls-posts/sensaitionalism/ 

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 beats-studio3-wireless-review-side.jpg  Commission re-envisioned high end audio travelling solution?😱

 

 

 

Procure the services of a budding architect to create a fresh start for the nerve center of your businesses.  You yourself, Mr. Chris Connaker impresario, are the new speaker.  As such you need a static set for commercial recording across multiple mediums as well as office space that doesn't intrude on your dedicated listening room.

 

 

 

Honestly, @Sal1950, and @Ralf11 before him, really took the punch out of my next suggestion.  Well done sirs.  Shove that Midwest flavor down like this year's exciting new food invention at the state fair.

 

 

In stark contrast to that last idea.  Forgoing companies that all shop at the same places and make up the difference with a facade seems to be your prime directive.  Tie that in with exhibiting... some vision and taste.  In that I wish you Godspeed.

 

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10 hours ago, firedog said:

The big Infinity's I heard years ago were the most realistic thing I'd ever heard (don't know what I'd think of them now).

Agreed,  I heard the IRS Beta's (I believe) at a dealer in downtown Chicago back in the day when they were current. The first time I'd ever heard a speaker that can deliver the inner detail and realism that is available from the best of the large horns.  If they had been in my financial wheelhouse I might have considered trading my Klipsch LaScala's for them. In the end my LaScala's remained at the head of my sound shrine for 32 years

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One of the things I’m concerned about is speakers that are mainstream vs more esoteric. 

 

One one one hand it’s great to have speakers to which people can relate. One the other hand some esoteric speakers may have better performance or value for the money. 

 

 

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42 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

One one one hand it’s great to have speakers to which people can relate. One the other hand some esoteric speakers may have better performance or value for the money. 

 

Hum, you confused me there. In the main, the esoteric's may deliver excellent performance, but most often at a price that can be staggeringly far up the $ vs returns scale. (thinking the big Wilson, Magico, MBL, etc).  IMHO the really sweet spot for incredible SOTA sound is the $5 to $25k range. A place where the very best in reproduction can be found without paying for extreme in beautiful cabinetry, status among friends,  or just plane old BS marketing. As I stated before, my choices would most likely be at the top of the H-K family of friends,  JBL or Revel. They have spent the most time in engineering and design by a large margin, then look to bring you a product that can best represent the input signals waveform at the ear for the $ spent.

For the same reasons you might also take a look at the top of the Paradigm Persona line.

Good luck in your journey.

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4 minutes ago, Allan F said:

Paradigm Persona 9H,

Vivid Giya G3, two speakers that would be on my short list if I could afford them.

I think that's a first for us, we agreeing on something.  LOL

I would warn Chris on the Giva line, I know personally someone that has had reliability problems with the in-house built drivers and less than stellar customer service over the continued failures.  :(   Just sayin

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1 minute ago, Sal1950 said:

 

Thanks Sal - I realize my statement may have been confusing and my choice of words ambiguous. 

 

When i say esoteric I mean more off the radar. Mainstream to me are brands that people can relate to, go hear at a local shop or buy something in the product line higher or lower. Mainstream usually means a full array of products etc... At least this is my use of the term. 

 

Some esoterics are very pricey but others offer more value because, even though they’re expensive, the markup isn’t astronomical. 

 

Thanks for the suggestions thus far. 

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