The Computer Audiophile Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 So the speculation has begun about when Apple will remove the lightning port on the iPhone. This would really suck on many levels, but just when I though the market for DAPs (Digital Audio Players) was circling the drain, a development like Apple removing the lightning port would ensure DAPs live on. If I had to listen to audio via wireless to headphones, I would definitely purchase a new DAP. https://www.macrumors.com/2018/06/21/apple-considered-no-lightning-on-iphone-x/ Solstice380 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 why is it bad to listen to audio via wireless to headphones? Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share Posted June 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, Ralf11 said: why is it bad to listen to audio via wireless to headphones? I've never heard wireless headphones that sound good. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
jabbr Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: I've never heard wireless headphones that sound good. There's a little DAC in both the bluetooth headphones as well as the lightning to headphone cable. Presumably a higher quality bluetooth DAC would emerge, and a wired headphone could plug into this ... if it comes to that. Custom room treatments for headphone users. Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted June 25, 2018 Author Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 minute ago, jabbr said: There's a little DAC in both the bluetooth headphones as well as the lightning to headphone cable. Presumably a higher quality bluetooth DAC would emerge, and a wired headphone could plug into this ... if it comes to that. I'm not into "presumably" when it comes to sound quality. If history is a predictor of the future, as convenience goes up sound quality will go down. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
PeterG Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 I have tremendous ambivalence when it comes to Apple's music offerings. On one, I'm not sure computer audiophiledom as we know it would exist without the iPod, iTunes, and Mac platform in general. But at every step they seem to have sacrificed sound quality for convenience and/or price--low res files, singles instead of albums, lo fi hardware... Moral of the story--do not rely upon Apple for maintaining any sort of sound quality standard. Link to comment
jabbr Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-25/apple-is-said-to-amplify-its-audio-device-strategy-in-2019 Custom room treatments for headphone users. Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 They should also work on higher quality source material... wgscott 1 No electron left behind. Link to comment
asdf1000 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 2 hours ago, AudioDoctor said: They should also work on higher quality source material... For us? The 1%? Their music streaming subscriber numbers continue to climb, even with lower quality source material... https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/4/16971436/apple-music-surpass-spotify-us-subscribers Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Em2016 said: For us? The 1%? Their music streaming subscriber numbers continue to climb, even with lower quality source material... https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/4/16971436/apple-music-surpass-spotify-us-subscribers My comment was mostly directed at them wanting to increase sound quality as mentioned in the Bloomberg link above. Sorry I didn't make that clear. You are right however. I doubt they will make a headphone that challenges a true high end headphone in sound quality, or that anyone buying an Apple Studio Quality headphone would even know the difference. Apple could do so much in this market, it irritates me that they don't. No electron left behind. Link to comment
asdf1000 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 29 minutes ago, AudioDoctor said: My comment was mostly directed at them wanting to increase sound quality as mentioned in the Bloomberg link above. Sorry I didn't make that clear. You are right however. I doubt they will make a headphone that challenges a true high end headphone in sound quality, or that anyone buying an Apple Studio Quality headphone would even know the difference. Apple could do so much in this market, it irritates me that they don't. Noted. They'll achieve increased sound quality even with the existing lower quality source material, by moving the DAC and amp components out of the phone and closer to the drivers. Note I'm only talking about improved SQ, compared with using the phone as DAC & headphone amp. Obviously not comparing with high end DAP's. At the same time, it gets Jony closer to one of his end goals. "It was reported that Apple's design chief Jony Ive's end goal is for the iPhone to resemble a "single sheet of glass,"". Link to comment
kirkmc Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 They can probably send the data out the USB-C port in more or less the same way as it goes out the lightning port, allowing for an adapter so existing lightning port headphones (the few that there are) can still work. And those adapters will work for any other devices that need to access the digital audio. I write about Macs, music, and more at Kirkville. Author of Take Control of macOS Media Apps. Co-host of The Next Track podcast. Link to comment
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