GUTB Posted April 16, 2018 Author Share Posted April 16, 2018 13 minutes ago, look&listen said: Repeat daily, maybe someday you actually believe. I am absolutely neurotypical. Link to comment
Popular Post Nordkapp Posted April 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2018 @GUTB, I am not calling you out. This is simply an attempt to help you. You are not neurotypical, and that's fine, few of us are for that matter. As a medical professional with 24+ years in healthcare and having treated 10's of thousands of patients, I can confidently say you sir are not neurotypical. And again, it's quite ok. Just please stop trying to cover up your idiosyncratic ideas/behavior with this constant "I'm neurotypical" stuff. I find your posts amusing at times, but infuriating as well. However, you do supply the peanut gallery with plenty to talk about. So in that regard you are fun with a sort of redeeming value. Keep posting. I do enjoy the debates. Remember, it's just audio equipment. I hope this helps you. Mike. Fluffytime, adamdea, kumakuma and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment
GUTB Posted April 16, 2018 Author Share Posted April 16, 2018 2 hours ago, semente said: What (hands-on) experience have you had with highend audio equipment? Listening in show rooms and hotels. Link to comment
Popular Post semente Posted April 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2018 13 minutes ago, GUTB said: Listening in show rooms and hotels. Some showroom demos may be ok but most show demos are rubbish. Nordkapp and Hugo9000 1 1 "Science draws the wave, poetry fills it with water" Teixeira de Pascoaes HQPlayer Desktop / Mac mini → Intona 7054 → RME ADI-2 DAC FS (DSD256) Link to comment
mav52 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 2 hours ago, GUTB said: I’m 100% neurotypical. Not an excuse, I have PTSD from 18 years in the military watching brothers get their limbs blown off, and seeing people vaporized in bombings,, but I don't use that as an excuse. So stop using your excuse as to why you don;t understand audio. Its getting rather old. gridlock74 1 The Truth Is Out There Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 3 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said: Interesting thread. Sound quality in a hotel room is determined by many factors. I’d rank the top four in order of importance as: 1. Room (a giant instrument) 2. Skill and willingness the people running the demo to tune the system. 3. Power (can be horrendous). 4. Loudspeakers Once these are addressed, then it’s possible to hear what a DAC has to offer etc... 1, 2 & 4 are a great chance to show off DSP 3 is a great chance to show off LPS, iso. trans. balanced PS, etc. Those manfs. seem to be missing a great opportunity Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Nordkapp said: @GUTB, I am not calling you out. This is simply an attempt to help you. You are not neurotypical, and that's fine, few of us are for that matter. As a medical professional with 24+ years in healthcare and having treated 10's of thousands of patients, I can confidently say you sir are not neurotypical. And again, it's quite ok. Just please stop trying to cover up your idiosyncratic ideas/behavior with this constant "I'm neurotypical" stuff. I find your posts amusing at times, but infuriating as well. However, you do supply the peanut gallery with plenty to talk about. So in that regard you are fun with a sort of redeeming value. Keep posting. I do enjoy the debates. Remember, it's just audio equipment. I hope this helps you. Mike. you are no doubt familiar with ELIZA perhaps a variant of that is the GUTB bot - it could be a joke project by some psych. grad. students Link to comment
Popular Post adamdea Posted April 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2018 Have we reached a point where the word "neurotypical", like "cleave" means something and its own opposite? mav52 and Hugo9000 2 You are not a sound quality measurement device Link to comment
Nordkapp Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 18 minutes ago, mav52 said: Not an excuse, I have PTSD from 18 years in the military watching brothers get their limbs blown off, and seeing people vaporized in bombings,, but I don't use that as an excuse. So stop using your excuse as to why you don;t understand audio. Its getting rather old. Neurotypical would imply he is normal or well adjusted. Its not an excuse. Link to comment
Nordkapp Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 13 minutes ago, Ralf11 said: you are no doubt familiar with ELIZA perhaps a variant of that is the GUTB bot - it could be a joke project by some psych. grad. students I am not a psych major. Link to comment
christopher3393 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 1 hour ago, GUTB said: I am absolutely neurotypical. How can this be absolute? Link to comment
adamdea Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 1 minute ago, christopher3393 said: How can this be absolute? Nor commonly self-diagnosed. You are not a sound quality measurement device Link to comment
Popular Post Ralf11 Posted April 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Nordkapp said: I am not a psych major. ELIZA was an early AI system or computer program that spit out various things based on user input GUTB appears to be an early AI system or computer program that spits out various things whether there is input or not everyone should learn about ELIZA AudioDoctor and Hugo9000 2 Link to comment
beancounter Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 36 minutes ago, Ralf11 said: ELIZA was an early AI system or computer program that spit out various things based on user input GUTB appears to be an early AI system or computer program that spits out various things whether there is input or not everyone should learn about ELIZA this is another system with input, and perhaps a much more comparable output (sorry GUTB, couldn't resist, please take this in the fun spirit in which it is intended) AudioDoctor 1 Link to comment
Nordkapp Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 13 minutes ago, beancounter said: this is another system with input, and perhaps a much more comparable output (sorry GUTB, couldn't resist, please take this in the fun spirit in which it is intended) Aww, he's cute. Food in-fertilizer out. beancounter 1 Link to comment
GUTB Posted April 16, 2018 Author Share Posted April 16, 2018 2 hours ago, christopher3393 said: How can this be absolute? Absolute in the sense of a strong assertion. As I keep pointing out, I’m neurotypical. I can use context, social / cultural information to communicate. To a neurotypical person meanings can change based on context. Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Don't pick Scottish cattle for the analogy - maybe a detritivore of some sort? Link to comment
beancounter Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, Ralf11 said: Don't pick Scottish cattle for the analogy - maybe a detritivore of some sort? I thought the Scottish bull was a perfect combination of output and price consciousness. Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 it is too nice a breed, and as per above too cute some detritivore fits well beancounter 1 Link to comment
George Hincapie Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 On 15/04/2018 at 5:13 AM, GUTB said: Schiit was at AXPONA again this year. They were showing a Salk music server streaming into a Gungnir Multibit (?) feeding a Freya and two Vidars. Speakers were the Salk Song 3As. So what happened? Esoteric was just next door. This allowed attendees to move immediately from one room to another. Esoteric was showing a full stack of thier latest separates plus a VPI Avenger for analog. Speakers were a pair of Cantons I didn’t get the model of. The Schiit room, while not bad, was completely destroyed by the Esoteric room. Esoteric played one SACD that unfurled a massive soundstage that I could sense even not being in the best seat. The sound of the Esoteric system, both via SACD and vinyl was dynamic, resolving, extremely musical, collected, vibrant, both large and delicately structured. It was a system that got all the minor details right. Such a good setup. The Schiit setup, while unoffensive, clean, and musical in its own right, simply couldn’t face the Esoteric in inner detail, soundstage, reality and low-level dynamics. Why did the Schiit system fail so hard vs the Esoteric? Part of the reason might have been the junk cabling used by Schiit. Peaking behind the system I was Blue Jeans speaker cables and mess of power bricks, basic cabling, etc. I don’t know how much of the Schiit’s performance was compromised by inferior cabling, but I’m curious how close it would have come to the Esoteric had Schiit paid some basic attention to that area. You didn't mention money. I bet Schiit destroyed Esoteric in the value proposition. I accept the cable comment though; only a fool would argue cables don't make a difference. Link to comment
Indydan Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 4 hours ago, GUTB said: I am absolutely neurotypical. mav52 1 Link to comment
Hugo9000 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Nordkapp said: Neurotypical would imply he is normal or well adjusted. Its not an excuse. I thought "neurotypical" simply meant "not on the autism spectrum." If so, it wouldn't rule out sociopathy or any of a multitude of other issues or their combinations. (No commentary on or attempted diagnosis of any individual(s) that participate in this forum to be inferred.) 请教别人一次是5分钟的傻子,从不请教别人是一辈子的傻子 Link to comment
botrytis Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Like I said, Schiit was used in quite a few rooms and they sounded and worked great. Hugo9000 1 Current: Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590 Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects Link to comment
mrvco Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 4 hours ago, Ralf11 said: you are no doubt familiar with ELIZA perhaps a variant of that is the GUTB bot - it could be a joke project by some psych. grad. students Maybe neurotoxic was misspelled somehow and spell-check changed it to neurotypical? -- My Audio System Link to comment
crenca Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 On the OP, I heard a very similar setup (I think a yggy was the DAC however) at RMAF 2016 and I too was underwhelmed. I noticed the speaker placement was horrible (almost as if it was intentional). Other than that, not much can be said as there are just too many show conditions. I notice the OP speaks of "low level dynamics" and such...in show conditions?!? I guess I don't have the Golden Noise Canceling Ears for such a thing... Hey MQA, if it is not all $voodoo$, show us the math! Link to comment
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