rickca Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Pre-orders starting February 12, shipments begin February 19. Free sPS-500 and $200 off a dCBL-BNC50(1M) or dCBL-BNC75(1M) for the first 100 orders. It's unclear whether the $3500 price is for the reference clock (140 dBc/Hz at 10Hz). SOtM had been planning to offer standard, advanced and reference clock levels. @MayfromSOtM can you please clarify? Anyone planning to buy one? Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
MayfromSOtM Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 22 minutes ago, rickca said: Pre-orders starting February 12, shipments begin February 19. Free sPS-500 and $200 off a dCBL-BNC50(1M) or dCBL-BNC75(1M) for the first 100 orders. It's unclear whether the $3500 price is for the reference clock (140 dBc/Hz at 10Hz). SOtM had been planning to offer standard, advanced and reference clock levels. @MayfromSOtM can you please clarify? Anyone planning to buy one? Hi ricka, thank you for your request, here I need to clarify some points based on your understanding. The sPS-500 will be supplied for free when purchasing the sCLK-OCX10 and it is the Referece model that initially known. And the dCBL-BNC50(1M) or dCBL-BNC75(1M) could be purchased at USD500 if you purchase thes sCLK-OCX10 in this time. But please be noted the qty is very limited to 100pcs only. Hope it makes sense Thank you. Best regards, May Link to comment
rickca Posted February 8, 2018 Author Share Posted February 8, 2018 7 minutes ago, MayfromSOtM said: Hope it makes sense Yes, May thanks for the clarification. So has SOtM decided to offer only the reference clock sCLK-OCX10 ... no standard or advanced model? If so, please advise Crux Audio to change the specs on their sCLK-OCX10 page to avoid confusion. Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
hurka Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 52 minutes ago, rickca said: Pre-orders starting February 12, shipments begin February 19. Free sPS-500 and $200 off a dCBL-BNC50(1M) or dCBL-BNC75(1M) for the first 100 orders. It's unclear whether the $3500 price is for the reference clock (140 dBc/Hz at 10Hz). SOtM had been planning to offer standard, advanced and reference clock levels. @MayfromSOtM can you please clarify? Anyone planning to buy one? 130 dbc/Hz at 10Hz ocxo cost 100$ 140 dbc/Hz sotm 3500$ 1dbc/Hz 340$ Link to comment
rickca Posted February 8, 2018 Author Share Posted February 8, 2018 1 minute ago, hurka said: 130 dbc/Hz at 10Hz ocxo cost 100$ 140 dbc/Hz sotm 3500$ 1dbc/Hz 350$ LOL do you know an external master clock with 130 dBc/Hz at 10 Hz that only costs $100? Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
hurka Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, rickca said: LOL do you know an external master clock with 130 dBc/Hz at 10 Hz that only costs $100? just ocxo. I cant use multiple master clock output. my tx usb ultra have only 1 10mhz master clock input. Link to comment
rickca Posted February 8, 2018 Author Share Posted February 8, 2018 @MayfromSOtM you have published the phase noise graph for sCLK-OCX10. Why have you never published the phase noise graph for sCLK-EX? Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
ducatirider Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Does the bnc cable make a difference? $500 seems high for such a cable. Link to comment
flkin Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 20 hours ago, rickca said: @MayfromSOtM you have published the phase noise graph for sCLK-OCX10. Why have you never published the phase noise graph for sCLK-EX? They did in their website earlier but seems to have taken it down. Pretty amazing figures shown if I recall correctly. PinkFaun - Vinnie Rossi - YBA - QSA Lanedri - Wilson Link to comment
MayfromSOtM Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 22 hours ago, rickca said: @MayfromSOtM you have published the phase noise graph for sCLK-OCX10. Why have you never published the phase noise graph for sCLK-EX? The graph we published on our website should be replaced, and we got supplied the OCX from other manufacturer and they share the graph with us so that I can share it with you, but for sCLK-EX, we are not ready to be shared the information. Thank you. Best regards, May Link to comment
MayfromSOtM Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, flkin said: They did in their website earlier but seems to have taken it down. Pretty amazing figures shown if I recall correctly. I took it down in a couple of hours ago since the graph should be replaced, I will post it up again soon. Please wait~ Thank you. Best regards, MAy Link to comment
auricgoldfinger Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 9 hours ago, ducatirider said: Does the bnc cable make a difference? $500 seems high for such a cable. Mutec REF10 owners have paid more for Habst cables and found them to make a worthwhile difference. YMMV. There is a fair amount of cable discussion in that thread which you may find useful. Link to comment
Confused Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 I notice that the SOtM reference clock generates a sine wave, whereas the Mutec REF10 generates a square wave. Any thoughts? Windows 11 PC, Roon, HQPlayer, Focus Fidelity convolutions, iFi Zen Stream, Paul Hynes SR4, Mutec REF10, Mutec MC3+USB, Devialet 1000Pro, KEF Blade. Plus Pro-Ject Signature 12 TT for playing my 'legacy' vinyl collection. Desktop system; RME ADI-2 DAC fs, Meze Empyrean headphones. Link to comment
auricgoldfinger Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Both companies claim their way sounds best. Seriously, only a side-by-side test can say for sure. SOtM has done it themselves. Link to comment
Popular Post ronfint Posted March 20, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 20, 2018 I haven't yet seen any comments on the quality of the sclk-ocx10; so I thought that I’d make a few remarks. I received mine yesterday. This is one of the biggest improvements that I’ve ever made to my audio system. I've added it plus an sps500 to an sps500 powering an sms200ultra and a tx-usb ultra. Absolutely everything has improved by quite a bit. The soundstage has expanded, and instruments in it are very clear. Bass has improved, lower with more clarity, and music has more power — like a live performance. Right now I'm listening to McCoy Tyner's “Sahara” (digitized from LP to 192/24) and it's more alive than I've ever heard it. The only downside is that five sotm boxes is a lot. I've got them stacked in a trapezoid and I’m using short cables; so at least there isn't too much of a mess. Solstice380, beautiful music, elan120 and 1 other 4 Link to comment
elan120 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 On 3/20/2018 at 3:18 PM, ronfint said: The only downside is that five sotm boxes is a lot. I've got them stacked in a trapezoid and I’m using short cables; so at least there isn't too much of a mess. I have mine in burn-in cycle, now past 250 hours, and noticed a jump in improvement when the burn-in past 200 hours and continue to improve even past 250 hours. Once I have the burn-in going a bit longer, I plan to try out couple power supplies to see if I can detect any difference from the sPS-500 I am using now. Could you share what BNC cable you are using? I would like to try different BNC cables and might start with Pasternack cable since I have good result using their SMB cables connecting from txUSBUltra to other destination clock points. Link to comment
d_elm Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 22 minutes ago, elan120 said: I have mine in burn-in cycle, now past 250 hours, and noticed a jump in improvement when the burn-in past 200 hours and continue to improve even past 250 hours. Once I have the burn-in going a bit longer, I plan to try out couple power supplies to see if I can detect any difference from the sPS-500 I am using now. Could you share what BNC cable you are using? I would like to try different BNC cables and might start with Pasternack cable since I have good result using their SMB cables connecting from txUSBUltra to other destination clock points. From Pasternack I am using RG400, 30cm, 12 inches in length. Link to comment
elan120 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 18 minutes ago, d_elm said: From Pasternack I am using RG400, 30cm, 12 inches in length. Thank you for the recommendation. I am also considering this one, but not sure what the differences between this and the RG401. Link to comment
ronfint Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Quote 52 minutes ago, d_elm said: From Pasternack I am using RG400, 30cm, 12 inches in length. I'm using the same. I may go to slightly longer cables, though, to separate some of the boxes and give my shelf a nicer look. Link to comment
auricgoldfinger Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 hour ago, elan120 said: Thank you for the recommendation. I am also considering this one, but not sure what the differences between this and the RG401. RG400 coax has a shield count of 2 and the maximum frequency is 12.4 GHz. RG400 coax cable has an attenuation at 1 GHz of 14.7 dB and a maximum power of 600 watts at 1 GHz. RG401 coax has a shield count of 1 and the maximum frequency is 20 GHz. RG401 coax cable has an attenuation at 1 GHz of 7.5 dB and a maximum power of 1,400 watts at 1 GHz. You can see the difference in shielding in the photos on the website. Link to comment
elan120 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 46 minutes ago, ronfint said: I'm using the same. I may go to slightly longer cables, though, to separate some of the boxes and give my shelf a nicer look. 2 minutes ago, auricgoldfinger said: RG400 coax has a shield count of 2 and the maximum frequency is 12.4 GHz. RG400 coax cable has an attenuation at 1 GHz of 14.7 dB and a maximum power of 600 watts at 1 GHz. RG401 coax has a shield count of 1 and the maximum frequency is 20 GHz. RG401 coax cable has an attenuation at 1 GHz of 7.5 dB and a maximum power of 1,400 watts at 1 GHz. You can see the difference in shielding in the photos on the website. Thank you for the additional information and recommendation. I am also in discussion with Pasternack tech support, and for the moment, they recommend LMR-195 coax (PE3C0054-xx), so for now, I have two possible cables to try. Link to comment
auricgoldfinger Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 More 50 Ω clock cables. Link to comment
Blackmorec Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 SOtM are developing a new rack for the ‘Ultra’ range that looks very tidy and apparently will have a quite reasonable price. With 5 boxes, 2 racks with 3 and 2 components is the order of the day. Should certainly sound better than stacked modules and the footprint won’d Be that much bigger than a standard ‘Ultra’ box. You’d need to check with May regarding availability Link to comment
auricgoldfinger Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 When it comes to SOtM, 'reasonable price' is a very relative concept. Link to comment
ronfint Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 6 hours ago, Blackmorec said: SOtM are developing a new rack for the ‘Ultra’ range that looks very tidy and apparently will have a quite reasonable price. With 5 boxes, 2 racks with 3 and 2 components is the order of the day. Should certainly sound better than stacked modules and the footprint won’d Be that much bigger than a standard ‘Ultra’ box. You’d need to check with May regarding availability If it looks better than what I currently have, I guess that I'd consider this. I honestly don't believe that there would be a difference in sound. Solstice380 1 Link to comment
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