Popular Post realhifi Posted November 14, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2017 To me this news is far too big to just be in the music section on this site. The superb catalogue of the eclectic, gorgeously recorded ECM lable which is one of the most admired in the world since the early 70’s has decided to open its library to Tidal. As I sit listening to some of this wonderful music tonight streaming on Tidal (that I used to only have on vinyl) I am deeply thankful that the founder and owner Manfred Eicher has made this decision and I am positive it will bear fruit as many more new listeners are able to reach into the beauty and excitement of his artists. Bravo. PS. I’ve heard that there is a number of them showing up as MQA Masters..... christopher3393, crenca and The Computer Audiophile 1 2 David Link to comment
jmsent Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Was looking through Tidal last night and found a bunch of Pat Metheny ECM albums now available. Great news. Link to comment
sixman Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Is there any quick way to look up the ecm catalogue on roon/tidal? Link to comment
zackthedog Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 This is good news--such a distinguished catalog and wonderful sound. Link to comment
GUTB Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Found one Master album: https://tidal.com/album/77688830 Link to comment
firedog Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 4 hours ago, sixman said: Is there any quick way to look up the ecm catalogue on roon/tidal? No. And I suggest every subscriber write to Tidal and complain about their limited search mechanism. I wrote them recently and did. Requested a way to search just for results in a sub category like "masters", or an artist within that category. Search by label would also be good, but mostly what they need is the ability to have a 2 level search. Maybe if enough of us complain they will add such a feature. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three BXT Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
loop7 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Is this for real? I'm streaming a Tomasz Stanko album so it must be true. Wow. Link to comment
loop7 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Finding more ECM MQA titles... I'm going to start a spreadsheet. Link to comment
Musicophile Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Same for Qobuz by the way, see also here: Check out my blog at musicophilesblog.com - From Keith Jarrett to Johannes Brahms Link to comment
sixman Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 17 hours ago, firedog said: No. And I suggest every subscriber write to Tidal and complain about their limited search mechanism. I wrote them recently and did. Requested a way to search just for results in a sub category like "masters", or an artist within that category. Search by label would also be good, but mostly what they need is the ability to have a 2 level search. Maybe if enough of us complain they will add such a feature. Yeah, the roon/tidal search function is terrible. I see the What Hifi? monthly play list pop up from time to time, but cant figure out how to search for them. One example of many Link to comment
crenca Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Well well, good news indeed..until I got to the MQA part Are the MQA albums also available in the better sounding, higher res, DRM free 16/44 PCM versions as well? I can tell you this - ECM will now sell me more albums because now I can hear them. I think I only own a dozen or so. This anti-streaming stance on the part of artists & labels is self defeating (no reason to go into all the reasons they are hoppin mad - already aware). Heck, they should even consider paying the streaming services to make their music available! Hey MQA, if it is not all $voodoo$, show us the math! Link to comment
sockpit Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Plugging ECM into qobuz search in their app gets one a long way into their list. Fantastic. Link to comment
miguelito Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 6 minutes ago, crenca said: Are the MQA albums also available in the better sounding, higher res, DRM free 16/44 PCM versions as well? The ones I've looked at are. It's a bit bizarre actually, there's a weird mix when you look at them on Roon. If you do "Go to TIDAL version" it goes to the -other- version if I recall correctly. Roon still needs to improve the MQA filtering/indicators. NUC10i7 + Roon ROCK > dCS Rossini APEX DAC + dCS Rossini Master Clock SME 20/3 + SME V + Dynavector XV-1s or ANUK IO Gold > vdH The Grail or Kondo KSL-SFz + ANK L3 Phono Audio Note Kondo Ongaku > Avantgarde Duo Mezzo Signal cables: Kondo Silver, Crystal Cable phono Power cables: Kondo, Shunyata, van den Hul system pics Link to comment
miguelito Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 9 minutes ago, crenca said: I can tell you this - ECM will now sell me more albums because now I can hear them. I think I only own a dozen or so. This anti-streaming stance on the part of artists & labels is self defeating (no reason to go into all the reasons they are hoppin mad - already aware). Heck, they should even consider paying the streaming services to make their music available! Completely agree! NUC10i7 + Roon ROCK > dCS Rossini APEX DAC + dCS Rossini Master Clock SME 20/3 + SME V + Dynavector XV-1s or ANUK IO Gold > vdH The Grail or Kondo KSL-SFz + ANK L3 Phono Audio Note Kondo Ongaku > Avantgarde Duo Mezzo Signal cables: Kondo Silver, Crystal Cable phono Power cables: Kondo, Shunyata, van den Hul system pics Link to comment
arcman Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Qobuz has a long list....I love Qobuz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment
Charente Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Indeed QOBUZ has, altho' I did notice recently that many are still tagged as download only ... perhaps that will change by the month end. Main System: NAS or QOBUZ > BlueSound Node 2i > Schiit Gungnir MultiBit > PYST XLR > Schiit Mjolnir 2 or Gilmore Lite MK2 Office System: iMac > Audirvana > Schiit EITR + Audiophonics LPS25 > Metrum FLINT NOS DAC (DAC TWO chips) > Schiit Magni 3+ > Aeon Flow Open Loudspeaker System: NAIM Muso Gen 2 Link to comment
realhifi Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 21 hours ago, crenca said: Well well, good news indeed..until I got to the MQA part Are the MQA albums also available in the better sounding, higher res, DRM free 16/44 PCM versions as well? Yes, for God’s sake. IF they do an MQA version they always have the 16/44 version available. crenca 1 David Link to comment
sockpit Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 12 hours ago, Charente said: Indeed QOBUZ has, altho' I did notice recently that many are still tagged as download only ... perhaps that will change by the month end. Hmmmm. I’m streaming right now. They even have a profile of the legendary producer in their app. Link to comment
Mark Dirac Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 On 14/11/2017 at 8:06 AM, loop7 said: Finding more ECM MQA titles... I'm going to start a spreadsheet. Here's one already: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10VtON9VjMAt3uyHC2-Oo2MjIa3orv9DKZfwiRQKmTAA/edit?usp=sharing I've added a column under which to flag "ECM". Link to comment
Mark Dirac Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 On 14/11/2017 at 3:07 AM, sixman said: Is there any quick way to look up the ecm catalogue on roon/tidal? Yes. On Tidal: Go to "What's New" Scroll down - below "Playlists", below "Shows & Podcasts", all the way down. There's a new category "ECM - NOW ON TIDAL" which lists 500! albums Even better, there is even a selection of ECM's MQA albums listed there. Link to comment
matthias Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Is there watermarking on streamed ECM music from Tidal and Qobuz? Thanks Matt "I want to know why the musicians are on stage, not where". (John Farlowe) Link to comment
firedog Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 5 hours ago, matthias said: Is there watermarking on streamed ECM music from Tidal and Qobuz? Thanks Matt They are just normal tracks, like everything else on Tidal. Why? Are you planning on recording the streams? Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three BXT Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
Johnseye Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 I already have some of Keith Jarret's catalog on CD and am very happy about this. Looks like I'll be listening to a lot of Tidal today. Audio System Link to comment
matthias Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 3 hours ago, firedog said: They are just normal tracks, like everything else on Tidal. Why? Are you planning on recording the streams? No, not at all. Just wondering whether there is an audible degradation of the SQ caused by watermarking. Do streamed redbook ECM music have the same SQ as CDs from ECM? Matt "I want to know why the musicians are on stage, not where". (John Farlowe) Link to comment
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