Popular Post ismewor Posted October 12, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2017 Just came back from RMAF this pass weekend. That is one thing i want to share. I was at the SOtM room and beside all the clock display and setup they have. I also notice the new audio switch inside their room. Have anyone saw that too. They have TCXO and OCXO clock switches and the good thing is all the clock module is build in. Even the OCXO is build in. Wow that is awesome. And it also come with Blue and Red color as i remember. Plus they also include their linear power supply as well. That is a plus since i don't have to shop for linear power supply. I will dig through my photo and try to post the look of it. Boomboy and Sloop John B 1 1 Digital: Dac: Chord DAVE, Amp: MC275 Mono, Preamp: FirstSound, Source: Esoteric K01X, Cable: TaraLab GME interconnect,CAS: SOtM Trifecta Mod 75ohm MCI, TheLinearSolution TCXO Router Analog: SME 20/2, SME V, Skala, Esoteric C03 Phono Link to comment
ismewor Posted October 13, 2017 Author Share Posted October 13, 2017 I promise to post some photos, here it is. Boomboy 1 Digital: Dac: Chord DAVE, Amp: MC275 Mono, Preamp: FirstSound, Source: Esoteric K01X, Cable: TaraLab GME interconnect,CAS: SOtM Trifecta Mod 75ohm MCI, TheLinearSolution TCXO Router Analog: SME 20/2, SME V, Skala, Esoteric C03 Phono Link to comment
MayfromSOtM Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Hi ismewor, thank you for visiting SOtM in Denver, my name is May and I'm working for SOtM as a marketing manager. Actually the products are not made by us, but a friend of ours brought them to the show for some exposure, so that I don't have much information about the product. But SOtM offers the better switch modification with the sCLK-EX which brings the certain sonic improvement and many of audiophiles has been proved the fact. If you consider buying some digital products, please consider how the circuit has been designed besides of the component itself, this is the most important part to decide the quality of sound in the digital audio system. Thank you. Link to comment
ismewor Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share Posted October 16, 2017 Thank you May, Sotm has great products, i already got your SMS200ultra and Txusbultra and now waiting for your clock so it can all link together. All the best. Digital: Dac: Chord DAVE, Amp: MC275 Mono, Preamp: FirstSound, Source: Esoteric K01X, Cable: TaraLab GME interconnect,CAS: SOtM Trifecta Mod 75ohm MCI, TheLinearSolution TCXO Router Analog: SME 20/2, SME V, Skala, Esoteric C03 Phono Link to comment
MayfromSOtM Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Thank you ismewor we are planning to make our network switch for audio purpose in future too, so please keep an eye on it and if you have any concern or question, please feel free to pm or email me Have a great day! 6 hours ago, ismewor said: Thank you May, Sotm has great products, i already got your SMS200ultra and Txusbultra and now waiting for your clock so it can all link together. All the best. Link to comment
tedwoods Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 On 10/17/2017 at 4:53 AM, MayfromSOtM said: we are planning to make our network switch for audio purpose in future too Sincerely hope it's the near future... Food for thought! Link to comment
MayfromSOtM Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 14 hours ago, tedwoods said: Sincerely hope it's the near future... Food for thought! we are planning to reveal the prototype in early next year, first quarter. cheers! Link to comment
Boomboy Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 May .. is there a " coming soon " section on your website ? It seems you have a few new products in development.. Big fan of your audio gear .. Link to comment
Popular Post MayfromSOtM Posted October 19, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2017 2 hours ago, Boomboy said: May .. is there a " coming soon " section on your website ? It seems you have a few new products in development.. Big fan of your audio gear .. Oh, that sounds good, i will try to make the section on our website! Thank you for the idea ~:) Boomboy and jventer 1 1 Link to comment
ismewor Posted October 19, 2017 Author Share Posted October 19, 2017 9 hours ago, MayfromSOtM said: Oh, that sounds good, i will try to make the section on our website! Thank you for the idea ~:) Thanks May., Good to know. Digital: Dac: Chord DAVE, Amp: MC275 Mono, Preamp: FirstSound, Source: Esoteric K01X, Cable: TaraLab GME interconnect,CAS: SOtM Trifecta Mod 75ohm MCI, TheLinearSolution TCXO Router Analog: SME 20/2, SME V, Skala, Esoteric C03 Phono Link to comment
ismewor Posted October 19, 2017 Author Share Posted October 19, 2017 btw, Got in touch with the company, they actually in USA. So it is a plus. The guy name Sam is the contact. www.thelinearsolution.com not much out there but they are building me a unit to try and with 30 days period. He suggested i try the TC clock version first. and see how it perform on my system. I will keep it posted. agladstone 1 Digital: Dac: Chord DAVE, Amp: MC275 Mono, Preamp: FirstSound, Source: Esoteric K01X, Cable: TaraLab GME interconnect,CAS: SOtM Trifecta Mod 75ohm MCI, TheLinearSolution TCXO Router Analog: SME 20/2, SME V, Skala, Esoteric C03 Phono Link to comment
rickca Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 2 hours ago, ismewor said: He suggested i try the TC clock version first. and see how it perform on my system. What does TC mean? Do you have any details about the switch? There's nothing at that website except Contact Us. Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
ismewor Posted October 20, 2017 Author Share Posted October 20, 2017 17 hours ago, rickca said: What does TC mean? Do you have any details about the switch? There's nothing at that website except Contact Us. @rickca TC mean the TCXO Clock that is build-in to the switch or router. And i believe that also make OC version at upgraded version. Send a email to Sam from contact me. which i did that and he should be able to answer your questions more than i do. Current wait time is 1 week. and i hope they can keep their word and not 8 months like my last experience for these so call custom build. you know what i mean. Digital: Dac: Chord DAVE, Amp: MC275 Mono, Preamp: FirstSound, Source: Esoteric K01X, Cable: TaraLab GME interconnect,CAS: SOtM Trifecta Mod 75ohm MCI, TheLinearSolution TCXO Router Analog: SME 20/2, SME V, Skala, Esoteric C03 Phono Link to comment
Al Jones Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Thelinearsolution.com has now been updated with detailed info on their switches and routers. Al J. Modem/router + Keces DC-116 12V LPS - SGC Sonic Transporter + Sonore 12V LPS/Edwards Audio ISO-1 mains isolation transformer - Meicord Opal LAN cables - Aqvox Switch + Sbooster 9V LPS/Uptone LPS-1 - Etalon Isolator - Sonore Signature Rendu Special Edition + Mad Scientist Heretical USB data-only cable - Sonore Ultradigital + Uptone LPS-1 - PS Audio I2S-12 cable - HQ Player - Holo Spring Level 3 DAC - iPeng on iPad 2 - MK Sound 300 monitors - Mad Audio Scientist Tungsten Carbide footers - Niels Larsen NLE speaker cables - Walker Audio Reference Plus HIGH Definition Links - 2 MK Sound MX350 subs - Shakti Stones - Herbie's Super Sonic Stabilizers - Herbie's Tenderfeet - Stillpoints ERS EMI/RFI sheets - Gutwire Ultimate Ground + Entreq Minimus + Silver Minimus grounding boxes - Symposium Rollerblocks - Symposium Ultra platform - Akiko Tuning Sticks Link to comment
marce Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 24K gold circuit trace... gold is a worse conductor than copper so it will not improve the circuit operation anyway, and they are probably referring to the ENIG coating, which is just to protect the pads before reflow, cant understand why anyone would do this. 4oz copper for a TCXO board!!!!! And finally as all the data is in packets and buffered at the other end what is a fancy clock going to do above the already adequate clock the Dlink routers have on board. And so it starts... plissken 1 Link to comment
plissken Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Deal lord. Research clock domain boundaries. You could put a 25Mhz unobtainium clock on NIC or router and it's not going to make an audible difference. Is the clock on the PCIe bus made of unobtanium? How about the clock driving the FSB (Front Side Bus) that the CPU and RAM adhere to? Is that made with unobtanium. This TCXO is 100% bullshit for networking components. johann 1 Link to comment
marce Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 The blue one is an OXCO and has: - Military Spec OCXO 4oz Copper PCB +/- 10ppb http://www.thelinearsolution.com/OCXO.html How can you not be impressed, its a mil spec board... LOL be more impressed if it was a mil spec assembly. And its 4oz..... Link to comment
d_elm Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Read the first post and follow the links in the thread An upgraded clock can make a difference if it is followed in the chain by good clocks. Link to comment
marce Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 How can it make a difference, the data will get through the switches and be buffered, the jitter in the switches is already at a level that lets data through... Jitter at the point of conversion is the only concern, for the rest of the Ethernet trail the clocks are perfectly adequate. Also adding a clock of board with a wire connection is not best practice for clocks. I don't know how much they are charging for modding a perfectly good switch, but its just jumping on the bandwagon to pump money out of people... Ypu would at least think they would have some data showing the improved eye pattern (seems to be the thing to show, LOL) at least. Link to comment
d_elm Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 If a data stream stays in the digital domain then clock jitter is handled by the circuit design. It is when the data stream is processed by a DAC the upstream handling can become important for the generated analog signal. In the thread I linked to many people describe their findings. One finding is that good upstream clocks make a difference but only if not followed by a bad clock. Link to comment
marce Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 AT THE POINT OF CONVERSION... That is the only time jitter would be an issue, the rest of the data is buffered down the line so any jitter is removed/cancelled at the point as it is re-clocked when it leaves the buffer. Link to comment
d_elm Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Could it be clock generated noise, which could be cumulative, is the issue along with electrical noise for a DAC ? I am thinking of getting a downstream FMC moded for an external clock (and lower noise power) and wonder if the increased jitter from fibre will simply be taken care of by conversion to wire. I would think fibre would drop any noise, including upstream clock noise, and I would just be left with the noise generated by the FMC. Link to comment
ismewor Posted October 24, 2017 Author Share Posted October 24, 2017 6 hours ago, plissken said: Is the clock on the PCIe bus made of unobtanium? How about the clock driving the FSB (Front Side Bus) that the CPU and RAM adhere to? Is that made with unobtanium. Yes, it sure make a huge different if it done right, that is why we are now tracing to replace the clock on the mobo. Digital: Dac: Chord DAVE, Amp: MC275 Mono, Preamp: FirstSound, Source: Esoteric K01X, Cable: TaraLab GME interconnect,CAS: SOtM Trifecta Mod 75ohm MCI, TheLinearSolution TCXO Router Analog: SME 20/2, SME V, Skala, Esoteric C03 Phono Link to comment
ismewor Posted October 24, 2017 Author Share Posted October 24, 2017 I rather things over do than missing stuff. audio is so tedious and picky at lease i'm that kind of person. Just like 10 years go, most of the audio folks saying power cord won't make a different. And look at it now. Digital: Dac: Chord DAVE, Amp: MC275 Mono, Preamp: FirstSound, Source: Esoteric K01X, Cable: TaraLab GME interconnect,CAS: SOtM Trifecta Mod 75ohm MCI, TheLinearSolution TCXO Router Analog: SME 20/2, SME V, Skala, Esoteric C03 Phono Link to comment
plissken Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 5 hours ago, d_elm said: Read the first post and follow the links in the thread An upgraded clock can make a difference if it is followed in the chain by good clocks. And here is my response to the entire misunderstanding that is portrayed: Q: What happens to the hyper accurate clock when I disconnected the cable and the music still played. Link to comment
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