RiseFall123 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Hi, while I am in the trial period of Tidal (excellent for UI and SQ but without a remote (as Spotify) I don't like it too much, and I don't know if I will accept to use workarounds), I wonder if its direct competitor, Qobuz, will have a remote from iPhone or iPad to control the Windows 10's app. I mean a remote from Qobuz itself not workarounds or stuff like Roon. Thanks TV: Philips 55PUS7502-12 / Hi-Fi: Roksan K3 - miniDSP DDRC-24 - Elac Debut Reference DBR62 - Moon Audio Silver Dragon USB - AudioQuest Sydney RCA - Ricable Ultimate Speaker - Dirac Live 3 / Headphones: Chord Mojo - Dan Clark Audio AEON Flow Open / Source: Raspberry 4 Pi - Roon - RoPieeeXL / Gaming: Xbox One X / Tablet: iPad Pro 10.5 Link to comment
Marcin_gps Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 1) Get foobar2000 with UPnP component. 2) Install BubbleUPNP server 3) convert foobar2000 UPnP renderer to OpenHome in BubbleUPNP 4) Use Linn Kazoo or mConnect apps on iPad/iPhone to play Qobuz catalogue (works for Tidal too) JPLAY & JCAT Founder Link to comment
RiseFall123 Posted October 4, 2017 Author Share Posted October 4, 2017 With this workaround I will lose some features (ie the mqa for tidal)? TV: Philips 55PUS7502-12 / Hi-Fi: Roksan K3 - miniDSP DDRC-24 - Elac Debut Reference DBR62 - Moon Audio Silver Dragon USB - AudioQuest Sydney RCA - Ricable Ultimate Speaker - Dirac Live 3 / Headphones: Chord Mojo - Dan Clark Audio AEON Flow Open / Source: Raspberry 4 Pi - Roon - RoPieeeXL / Gaming: Xbox One X / Tablet: iPad Pro 10.5 Link to comment
Marcin_gps Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 MQA decoding is only supported in official TIDAL client yet, so yes - you'd lose that. JPLAY & JCAT Founder Link to comment
RiseFall123 Posted October 4, 2017 Author Share Posted October 4, 2017 ROON should support MQA even without the tidal app installed? if so, roon is the ONLY one method (alternative to the Tidal native app)? Here we are speaking that I will surely have to spend 500 dollars only to remote it with full features... TV: Philips 55PUS7502-12 / Hi-Fi: Roksan K3 - miniDSP DDRC-24 - Elac Debut Reference DBR62 - Moon Audio Silver Dragon USB - AudioQuest Sydney RCA - Ricable Ultimate Speaker - Dirac Live 3 / Headphones: Chord Mojo - Dan Clark Audio AEON Flow Open / Source: Raspberry 4 Pi - Roon - RoPieeeXL / Gaming: Xbox One X / Tablet: iPad Pro 10.5 Link to comment
Marcin_gps Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 I think Roon can only detect MQA files, but not decode them. JPLAY & JCAT Founder Link to comment
Cebolla Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 9 hours ago, RiseFall123 said: Hi, while I am in the trial period of Tidal (excellent for UI and SQ but without a remote (as Spotify) I don't like it too much, and I don't know if I will accept to use workarounds), I wonder if its direct competitor, Qobuz, will have a remote from iPhone or iPad to control the Windows 10's app. I mean a remote from Qobuz itself not workarounds or stuff like Roon. Thanks The OpenHome Player, as mentioned in your similar TIDAL thread for exactly the same reasons! We are far more united and have far more in common with each other than things that divide us. -- Jo Cox Link to comment
RiseFall123 Posted October 4, 2017 Author Share Posted October 4, 2017 8 hours ago, Marcin_gps said: I think Roon can only detect MQA files, but not decode them. If i have a “not mqa” dac, Roon will at least play mqa in higher 24 bit and hz as the native Tidal app does? TV: Philips 55PUS7502-12 / Hi-Fi: Roksan K3 - miniDSP DDRC-24 - Elac Debut Reference DBR62 - Moon Audio Silver Dragon USB - AudioQuest Sydney RCA - Ricable Ultimate Speaker - Dirac Live 3 / Headphones: Chord Mojo - Dan Clark Audio AEON Flow Open / Source: Raspberry 4 Pi - Roon - RoPieeeXL / Gaming: Xbox One X / Tablet: iPad Pro 10.5 Link to comment
Marcin_gps Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 11 hours ago, RiseFall123 said: If i have a “not mqa” dac, Roon will at least play mqa in higher 24 bit and hz as the native Tidal app does? Yes, but then you will get lossy 24bit without any benefit of MQA. And that will definitely sound worse than 16/44 lossless... JPLAY & JCAT Founder Link to comment
RiseFall123 Posted October 5, 2017 Author Share Posted October 5, 2017 2 hours ago, Marcin_gps said: Yes, but then you will get lossy 24bit without any benefit of MQA. And that will definitely sound worse than 16/44 lossless... This you mean, using a not MQA DAC or using Roon instead of Tidal app in a not MQA DAC? In other words, not having a MQA DAC, but listening to a Tidal MQA, using Tidal app or using everything else (upnp+foobar, etc. at 16/44), it will be the same quality? Or it always better using the Tidal app, speaking about quality? TV: Philips 55PUS7502-12 / Hi-Fi: Roksan K3 - miniDSP DDRC-24 - Elac Debut Reference DBR62 - Moon Audio Silver Dragon USB - AudioQuest Sydney RCA - Ricable Ultimate Speaker - Dirac Live 3 / Headphones: Chord Mojo - Dan Clark Audio AEON Flow Open / Source: Raspberry 4 Pi - Roon - RoPieeeXL / Gaming: Xbox One X / Tablet: iPad Pro 10.5 Link to comment
Marcin_gps Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Without MQA DAC, if you're using Windows machine, you can get some benefit only with official Tidal client app which has the MQA software decoder. In my opinion, there is no benefit at all... JPLAY & JCAT Founder Link to comment
RiseFall123 Posted October 5, 2017 Author Share Posted October 5, 2017 53 minutes ago, Marcin_gps said: Without MQA DAC, if you're using Windows machine, you can get some benefit only with official Tidal client app which has the MQA software decoder. In my opinion, there is no benefit at all... SInce i wont use the tidal app at all (lack of remote, no volume control), the quality that i can obtain subscribe to Roon or just use a solution like bubble+upnp foobar, it will be the same or i could have some benefit from Roon? TV: Philips 55PUS7502-12 / Hi-Fi: Roksan K3 - miniDSP DDRC-24 - Elac Debut Reference DBR62 - Moon Audio Silver Dragon USB - AudioQuest Sydney RCA - Ricable Ultimate Speaker - Dirac Live 3 / Headphones: Chord Mojo - Dan Clark Audio AEON Flow Open / Source: Raspberry 4 Pi - Roon - RoPieeeXL / Gaming: Xbox One X / Tablet: iPad Pro 10.5 Link to comment
Marcin_gps Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 In my opinion software, even bit-perfect, can sound different, so best to check and choose what sounds best in your system. I'd recommend you to check JPLAYStreamer (my own product), but Tidal & Qobuz work only via BubbleDS app on Android at the moment... JPLAY & JCAT Founder Link to comment
RiseFall123 Posted October 5, 2017 Author Share Posted October 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Marcin_gps said: In my opinion software, even bit-perfect, can sound different, so best to check and choose what sounds best in your system. I'd recommend you to check JPLAYStreamer (my own product), but Tidal & Qobuz work only via BubbleDS app on Android at the moment... I'm into iOS mobile devices only for now. Since I will avoid totally the Tidal native app, for the reasons I explained above and that cannot be issued, I will need to understand what solution is better sound between Roon and the uPNP stuff. TV: Philips 55PUS7502-12 / Hi-Fi: Roksan K3 - miniDSP DDRC-24 - Elac Debut Reference DBR62 - Moon Audio Silver Dragon USB - AudioQuest Sydney RCA - Ricable Ultimate Speaker - Dirac Live 3 / Headphones: Chord Mojo - Dan Clark Audio AEON Flow Open / Source: Raspberry 4 Pi - Roon - RoPieeeXL / Gaming: Xbox One X / Tablet: iPad Pro 10.5 Link to comment
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now