Popular Post The Computer Audiophile Posted July 17, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2017 Now this seems down right disruptive (in a great way for consumers). Yeah, I know, you’re probably thinking, “Didn’t I already get an email from Schiit today?” In short, yep. But here’s another big announcement: Vidar is here. Vidar is our true no-excuses power amplifier—for $699. Yes, I said, “No excuses.” No Class D. No switching supplies. No coupling caps. No DC servos. We’re talking a fully discrete, fully complementary, dual-mono-back-to-the-transformer, power-doubling-into-4-ohms, stereo-or-mono, intelligent microprocessor-managed power amp. Think 100W RMS x 2 into 8 ohms, 200W RMS x 2 into 4, and 400W into 8 ohms mono. Sounds like we left a zero off the price tag? Nope. Welcome to the value revolution. Vidar is available for purchase now at schiit.com. Product Page: http://schiit.com/products/vidar Press Release: http://schiit.com/news/news/no-compromises-power-vidar All the best, Jason Stoddard Mike Moffat Co-Founders Schiit Audio MikeyFresh, wgscott and Melvin 3 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
wgscott Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Quote Or, run two Vidars from a preamp with balanced outputs (like our Freya) for true monoblock performance and 400 watts per channel into 8 ohms. This is what I would do. I hope you get to review this... Link to comment
Popular Post The Computer Audiophile Posted July 17, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2017 I'm going to ask Jason and Mike if I can review a cost no object, top of the line, Schiit system. I have the Yggrdrasil, but need the amps and pre. Prices Freya: $699 Vidar: $699 (x2 for monoblocks) Yggdrasil: $2299 Total: $3697 ($4396 if using mono amps) Amazing. Speed Racer, jhwalker, Melvin and 1 other 4 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
wgscott Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 One mundane thing I am interested in is efficiency (and how hot they get). It sounds like they use passive (heat sink) cooling, so sticking them in a cabinet might not be such a good idea. Link to comment
Speed Racer Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 I ordered two Vidar amps and they be delivered tomorrow. My Tekton Double Impact speakers arrive tomorrow as well. Schiit were able to up the biasing due to the change in heatsink design from the original prototypes. Jason said the production units get hotter than the prototypes. That means they should stay Class A longer. The Computer Audiophile 1 Link to comment
Speed Racer Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 29 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: I'm going to ask Jason and Mike if I can review a cost no object, top of the line, Schiit system. I have the Yggrdrasil, but need the amps and pre. Prices Freya: $699 Vidar: $699 (x2 for monoblocks) Yggdrasil: $2299 Total: $3697 ($4396 if using mono amps) Amazing. It is! I already have an Yggdrasil and Freya along with the two Vida's coming. What a bargain!! Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted July 17, 2017 Author Share Posted July 17, 2017 Damn! Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
rando Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Our site owner just Schitt himself. Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted July 17, 2017 Author Share Posted July 17, 2017 Seriously. I had to check to make sure it wasn't true. Edit: I know this is just audio and these are inanimate objects, but the Schiit Audio components for such reasonable prices are something worth Schitting yourself about :~) wgscott 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Popular Post gmgraves Posted July 17, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2017 1 hour ago, The Computer Audiophile said: Now this seems down right disruptive (in a great way for consumers). Yeah, I know, you’re probably thinking, “Didn’t I already get an email from Schiit today?” In short, yep. But here’s another big announcement: Vidar is here. Vidar is our true no-excuses power amplifier—for $699. Yes, I said, “No excuses.” No Class D. No switching supplies. No coupling caps. No DC servos. We’re talking a fully discrete, fully complementary, dual-mono-back-to-the-transformer, power-doubling-into-4-ohms, stereo-or-mono, intelligent microprocessor-managed power amp. Think 100W RMS x 2 into 8 ohms, 200W RMS x 2 into 4, and 400W into 8 ohms mono. Sounds like we left a zero off the price tag? Nope. Welcome to the value revolution. Vidar is available for purchase now at schiit.com. Product Page: http://schiit.com/products/vidar Press Release: http://schiit.com/news/news/no-compromises-power-vidar All the best, Jason Stoddard Mike Moffat Co-Founders Schiit Audio Wow! This is, in my opinion, just what this hobby needs, equipment that actually gives value for money spent. I fully agree that a complete system based around Schiit products: Yggy, Freya, Vidar, Asgard 2 would be the audio bargain of the age! Then spend the rest of your budget on great speakers. How about a pair of Martin-Logan Electro Motions at $2,499/pair or perhaps a pair of Magnepan MG-1.7s or even MG-0.7s !My god, affordable high-end audio? The mind reels. wgscott, master, NOMBEDES and 2 others 5 George Link to comment
rando Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Interrupting the Phasure Lush thread with an announcement was actually quite hilarious. No negative connotations lied behind attempting to be witty. The Computer Audiophile 1 Link to comment
Speed Racer Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 1 hour ago, The Computer Audiophile said: Seriously. I had to check to make sure it wasn't true. Edit: I know this is just audio and these are inanimate objects, but the Schiit Audio components for such reasonable prices are something worth Schitting yourself about :~) Here is what my setup will entail: DAC: Yggdrasil - $2,299 Preamp: Freya - $699 Amps: Vidar x 2 - $1,398 Headphone amp: Mjolnir 2 - $849 Speakers: Tekton Design Double impact - $3,300 Not counting speaker cables and interconnects, the total is $8,545. There is no way you could buy that quality of components from anywhere else for anywhere near that price. A DAC as nice as Yggdrasil could cost you that much! Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 I want @Johnseye to test these against his Benchmark... Link to comment
unbalanced output Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Speed Racer said: Here is what my setup will entail: DAC: Yggdrasil - $2,299 Preamp: Freya - $699 Amps: Vidar x 2 - $1,398 Headphone amp: Mjolnir 2 - $849 Speakers: Tekton Design Double impact - $3,300 Not counting speaker cables and interconnects, the total is $8,545. There is no way you could buy that quality of components from anywhere else for anywhere near that price. A DAC as nice as Yggdrasil could cost you that much! I haven't heard the Schiits neither I've heard these speakers (googled quickly and indeed they look nice!). However, that does not sound exactly cheap (pun intended). Actually with that money for the amplification one could easily buy a Hegel or Naim. Same for the DAC... Or just get a Focus XD. Link to comment
franz159 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 OK, I can buy "200W at 8 Ohm" in this way 1) https://www.nordacoustics.co.uk/product-page/nord-one-mp-nc250-stereo-power-amp About 1023$ delivered to me in NY or in this way 2) 2 x http://schiit.com/products/vidar About 1467$ delivered to me in NY I kinda know what the answer will be in this thread, and I honestly want to reassure you I'm not trying to generate any flame. But what would you consider as pros and cons of option 1 and 2 above? Thanks franz Link to comment
gmgraves Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, franz159 said: OK, I can buy "200W at 8 Ohm" in this way 1) https://www.nordacoustics.co.uk/product-page/nord-one-mp-nc250-stereo-power-amp About 1023$ delivered to me in NY or in this way 2) 2 x http://schiit.com/products/vidar About 1467$ delivered to me in NY I kinda know what the answer will be in this thread, and I honestly want to reassure you I'm not trying to generate any flame. But what would you consider as pros and cons of option 1 and 2 above? Thanks franz Well, most don't really need TWO Vidars. One Vidar is 100 W/pc, plenty for most setups and only $649. George Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted July 17, 2017 Author Share Posted July 17, 2017 Hi Franz - I'm willing to bet you can find a cheaper 100 watts, if that's what you're trying to do. What exactly are you trying to do with this comparison? It cool to find the competition, let's just make sure we are comparing apples to apples. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Speed Racer Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 10 minutes ago, franz159 said: OK, I can buy "200W at 8 Ohm" in this way 1) https://www.nordacoustics.co.uk/product-page/nord-one-mp-nc250-stereo-power-amp About 1023$ delivered to me in NY or in this way 2) 2 x http://schiit.com/products/vidar About 1467$ delivered to me in NY I kinda know what the answer will be in this thread, and I honestly want to reassure you I'm not trying to generate any flame. But what would you consider as pros and cons of option 1 and 2 above? Thanks franz Well, two Vidar amps running in monoblock mode will give you a conservative 400 watts per channel at 8 ohms. Link to comment
Paddlefoot Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 i have a pair of Vidar on the way too, should be here Thursday. 2 Schiit Vidars Schiit Freya Schiit Mani Phono Schiit Gungnir Multibit with Gen 5 usb Vandersteen 2ce Signatures MKII can't wait to hear it together!!!! Link to comment
franz159 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 14 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: Hi Franz - I'm willing to bet you can find a cheaper 100 watts, if that's what you're trying to do. What exactly are you trying to do with this comparison? It cool to find the competition, let's just make sure we are comparing apples to apples. Until now I was oriented to buy a NordAcoustic amp. This was based on more than positive user feedbacks read on various sites (probably also here on Computer Audiophile) The need is in short to power in the appropriate way a pair of "hungry" Elac UB5 https://www.elac.com/product/ub5/ Now, knowing that Vidar is finally available and considering that (as mentioned by gmgraves) one single Vidar is probably enough for my need, I am actually re-considering my options. The main remaining reason in favour of the Nord Acoustic MP amp is probably just its flexibility in terms of power input (auto-switching between 115V and 230V) which is somehow relevant to me because I would be using the amp in US initially, but possibly needing to bring it back to Europe with me in the future. Link to comment
Johnseye Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 2 hours ago, Ralf11 said: I want @Johnseye to test these against his Benchmark... When I saw this I was immediately going to place an order. Mostly because I've been eyeing the Freya and Yggdrasil and have been looking for an excuse. Then I saw that the Vidar only has one balanced in. Maybe I'm missing something because there's stereo in via RCA, just not XLR. That would require monoblocks if you want balanced in. Audio System Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 I'll buy you a beer if you do a careful audition/comparison... Link to comment
Dev Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Though more than twice the price of Vidar, the Job225 would be another amp to compare ... Link to comment
Johnseye Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 57 minutes ago, Ralf11 said: I'll buy you a beer if you do a careful audition/comparison... The Vidar and Benchmark are similar in terms of watt output. Does this qualify? I'm still tempted and may. I'll let you know. Benchmark AHB2: Frequency Response: Better than 0.1 Hz to 200 kHz, +0/-3 dB -0.01 dB at 20 Hz, -0.17 dB at 20 kHz, 8-Ohm Load -0.23 dB at 20 Hz, -0.32 dB at 20 kHz, 4-Ohm Load THD+N : 1 kHz, 80 kHz LPF, at full rated output into any rated load < -118 dB (< 0.00013%), Stereo or Mono Mode THD: 1 kHz, 20 kHz LPF, at full rated output into any rated load < -119 dB (< 0.00011%), Stereo Mode < -120 dB (< 0.00010%), Mono Mode SNR: 132 dB A-weighted, Stereo Mode 135 dB A-weighted, Mono Mode Damping Factor: 350 at 20 Hz, 8-Ohms 254 at 1 kHz, 8-Ohms 34 at 20 kHz, 8-Ohms 7 at 200 kHz, 8-Ohms Gain (adjustable): Low-Gain = 22 dBu (9.8 Vrms), Gain = 9.2 dB Mid-Gain = 14.2 dBu (4 Vrms), Gain = 17.0 dB High-Gain = 8.2 dBu (2 Vrms), Gain = 23 dB Use Mid-Gain or High-Gain settings for unbalanced inputs Input Impedance: 50 k Ohms, normal mode 1 M Ohm, common mode Crosstalk: Better than -115 dB at 1 kHz Better than -92 dB at 20 kHz Shiit Vidar: Frequency Response: 20Hz-20Khz, -0.1db, 3Hz-500KHz, -3dB THD: <0.01%, 20Hz-20KHz, at 100W RMS into 8 ohms SNR: >125db, A-weighted, referenced to full output Damping Factor: >100 into 8 ohms, 20-20kHz Gain: 22 (27dB) Input Impedance: 22k ohms SE, 44k ohms balanced Crosstalk: >95dB, 20-20kHz Audio System Link to comment
Ralf11 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Nyet! Actual listening - hopefully blind... with this release and the Mytek, I am feeling better about deferring an amp purchase... Link to comment
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