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How DOES the grounding boxes work?

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They do work.  Tremendously well.  For audiophiles looking for emotional support they are doing something to clean up their grounding and improve their system.  The money spent validates the emotional improvements.

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To start this thread off I can tell a little something about myself. I have used Entreq Cupper Minimus for almost five years and have experimented with it a lot. Before I even bought one I constructed numerous DIY grounding boxes using battery, bentonite clay, tourmalines, rose quartz, clear quartz, Himalayan salt etc etc. The closest to "the real deal" I got was my battery grounder embedded in tourmaline stones that I still use today. Still, it was'nt even close to the Entreq Minimus in performance. How come? I read about stones, grounding and grounding boxes for ages but still did'nt come close enough. What did I miss?

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4 minutes ago, esldude said:

They do work.  Tremendously well.  For audiophiles looking for emotional support they are doing something to clean up their grounding and improve their system.  The money spent validates the emotional improvements.

 

Hmm, you mean they work or not? Any clues why they work or not? 😊

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4 minutes ago, plissken said:

Based on the:

 

Instrumented data that I have seen

The lack of any human, bias controlled testing

 

They don't appear to work other than sighted. Ground means ground.

 

I would'nt qualify that as a hard evidence against grounding boxes. Bias controlled testing! Common! 

Just tell me how you think they work. Not by accusing believers of being half deaf. 😂

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2 minutes ago, esldude said:

I mean exactly what I said.


Electrically to improve how well your gear functions, they don't work.  They will slightly degrade it.

 

As an experiential thing for audiophiles who believe in them, and don't do listening unsighted, they work fabulously well. They also are an excellent product business-wise. 

 

Quick question. Have you tried them IRL?

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4 minutes ago, Cornan said:

 

I would'nt qualify that as a hard evidence against grounding boxes. Bias controlled testing! Common! 

Just tell me how you think they work. Not by accusing believers of being half deaf. 😂

 

Based on the testing they can act as an antenna and introduce noise into a system.

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5 minutes ago, pkane2001 said:

They don't work in the following ways:

 

1. They don't provide a safety ground

2. They don't extract and store noise from the ground plane

3. They don't filter noise

4. They don't attract stray currents or voltages (where "they find peace"! :))

5. They don't work "like a bit of mother Earth"

 

What they might be actually doing:

 

1. Acting as an antenna receiving (or even broadcasting) signal

2. They might form a common ground across devices if more than one device is connected to the same grounding box/connector (resulting in more cross-talk but possibly fewer ground loops)

3. Their 'technical' explanations sound plausible to folks that don't understand how ground actually works, but sounds like gobbledygook to anyone with basic a Physics education

 

 

To make it simple I will decide your questions in 1:1 and 2:1 etc.

 

1:1 No, not what they are suppose to do either

1:2 How do you know? Explain.

1:3 How do you know? Explain.

1:4 How do you know? Explain

1:5 How do you know? Explain

 

2:1 How do you know? Explain

2:2 Nothing wrong with a common ground AFAIK.

2:3 Then please explain to me as a guy that do understandfor these things!

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6 minutes ago, plissken said:

 

Based on the testing they can act as an antenna and introduce noise into a system.

 

Which testings? Please post the links.

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9 minutes ago, esldude said:

Nope. 

 

Didn't drink salamander hormones and chop off a finger to see if it would grow back either.  I guess in some people's eyes I am unqualified to speak to the effectiveness of salamander hormones or grounding boxes.

 

Why am I not surprised?  

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1 minute ago, Cornan said:

 

What makes you think I beleive in that post compared to me own ears? Have you tried any grounding boxes yourself?

 

Again, I said you MAY PREFER THE ADDED NOISE.

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Just now, AJ Soundfield said:

They work on a very simple, well know principle

 

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AJ Soundfiield. I am not surpriced to find you here!  😁

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1 minute ago, Kal Rubinson said:

They work by having believers.

You could be one as well. If you ever try one! 😉

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5 minutes ago, Cornan said:

 

What makes you think I beleive in that post compared to me own ears?

I had no idea there were so many advocates for blind listening here. Bravo sir.

Yes, own ears is the way to test this.

No peeking, etc, etc

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