ISO REGEN launch thread! (product web page up; photos, etc.)

[k-man]

1 hour ago, Jud said:

Not sure I can say this in a family forum, but: Foreplay?

Don't know what is going in your mind!  50 sh 60 Boards of Regen 

 

17 hours ago, Superdad said:

 Why did I make this thing?  You'll have to guess...

Soz Superdude, that shirt can't give me a straight response 

[Superdad]

17 hours ago, Superdad said:

Why did I make this thing?  You'll have to guess...

 

 

Alright, I make you guys wait for so many other things.

 

It is a jig to hold a whole bunch of USPCB A>B Adapters by their 'A' plug so the printed (and hole punched for the VBUS DIP switch) heat shrink tubing can be placed and heated.  No other way to do it.  

 

Aloha.  In a few hours we leave to S.F. for the night, and fly to Oahu in the morning.

 

Just a reminder to anyone thinking about driving over and picking up their ISO REGEN early while I'm gone:

My assistant and her burly firefighter husband are house sitting, so our giant dog, the cats, and the horses don't get lonely.

[Middy]

Safe journey .

 

We demand at least one gratuitous hula skirt picture...

 

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[kalinka]

Slightly off topic: as I stated before, I use the original Regen together with an ipurifier 2. It was regen -> purifier -> dac.

 

However, I've decided to try the ipurifier before the regen, and my system sounds so much better like this. With the ipurifier after the regen I was getting some fatigue, the mids was a bit too foward and harsh. With the regen just before the DAC everything sounds better and smoother.

 

So, my advice is, for those who, like me, use the regen together with other USB "decrapfiers", try to use the regen at the very end of the chain, at least in my system it made noticeable difference - for the better.

[Superdad]

3 hours ago, kalinka said:

Slightly off topic: as I stated before, I use the original Regen together with an ipurifier 2. It was regen -> purifier -> dac.

 

However, I've decided to try the ipurifier before the regen, and my system sounds so much better like this. With the ipurifier after the regen I was getting some fatigue, the mids was a bit too foward and harsh. With the regen just before the DAC everything sounds better and smoother.

 

So, my advice is, for those who, like me, use the regen together with other USB "decrapfiers", try to use the regen at the very end of the chain, at least in my system it made noticeable difference - for the better.

 

No surprise there. You always want the device which provides the best signal integrity as the last one--going into your DAC.  That would be the REGEN.  

[JohnSwenson]

Alex made it to Hawaii!

 

John S.

[Middy]

Not jealous at all.. I never said that...who said that. ....

[asdf1000]

5 hours ago, JohnSwenson said:

Alex made it to Hawaii!

 

John S.

 

Hey John is he still taking and responding to order queries by e-mail? Or only when he gets back?

Cheers

[Superdad]

1 hour ago, Em2016 said:

Hey John is he still taking and responding to order queries by e-mail? Or only when he gets back?

 

ALOHA!

 

If this was you, would you be replying to bunches of e-mails?  Taking a break from that is one of the main points of this trip.  Celebrating our 29th wedding anniversary is the other.  

 

It will be a bit hectic when I get back--all those ISO REGENs to get out the following week, though  my assistant will be testing/assembling them while I'm gone.

So please everyone, don't expect a full reply to all e-mail until late in the week (of May 8th).  Order-related messages will be dealt with first. And those long messages seeking advise and comparisons?Well those will continue to grow older. 

[asdf1000]

39 minutes ago, Superdad said:

 

ALOHA!

 

If this was you, would you be replying to bunches of e-mails?  Taking a break from that is one of the main points of this trip.  Celebrating our 29th wedding anniversary is the other.  

 

It will be a bit hectic when I get back--all those ISO REGENs to get out the following week, though  my assistant will be testing/assembling them while I'm gone.

So please everyone, don't expect a full reply to all e-mail until late in the week (of May 8th).  Order-related messages will be dealt with first. And those long messages seeking advise and comparisons?Well those will continue to grow older. 

 

Ha! Congrats and enjoy mate

 

[pl_svn]

hhhhmmmm... weather doesn't promise anything good 

what about going back home to assemble and send us those ISOs?

 

you'll have your holiday later

 

 

 

[Zorro]

Have a great holiday with your wife, Alex. I look forward to receiving my ISO Regen when it is ready to ship.

[Middy]

Leave the poor man alone.?

Pass on our sincere congratulations to Mrs C.

 

Drinking...2 Feet...from the water nice.

 

[rickca]

John, can you please explain why you decided to have a switch to defeat galvanic isolation?  For which devices are we likely going to need to use it?

 

Alex already pointed out that this also gives us the ability to evaluate how much GI contributes to the sound quality.

[Tone Deaf]

45 minutes ago, rickca said:

John, can you please explain why you decided to have a switch to defeat galvanic isolation?  

 

John previously posted this information on page 7 of this thread,

[rickca]

12 minutes ago, Tone Deaf said:

 

John previously posted this information on page 7 of this thread,

Yes I've read that post, thanks.  I'm really looking for some specific examples of systems that require use of the GI defeat switch that were discovered during testing.

[Daudio]

1 hour ago, rickca said:

Yes I've read that post, thanks.  I'm really looking for some specific examples of systems that require use of the GI defeat switch that were discovered during testing.

 

And pray tell, who do you suppose is going to come up with those examples, with John S already weighed in on the subject, Alex C on vacation, then booked up on his return, and no product yet in the wild ??

[JohnSwenson]

3 hours ago, rickca said:

John, can you please explain why you decided to have a switch to defeat galvanic isolation?  For which devices are we likely going to need to use it?

 

Alex already pointed out that this also gives us the ability to evaluate how much GI contributes to the sound quality.

It is not a "device" specific issue, it is a system configuration issue. There is no way to give a hard and fast "this exact configuration" will have an issue. The exact precise mechanisms are not known so there is no way to make precise proclamations about this.

 

There is a higher probability there might be an issue when people have systems that have already had extensive isolation work done such as devices run off batteries, isolation transformers, optical interfaces etc.

 

And in the situations where we have found this happening adding a ground to exactly one point in the system has alleviated the situation, so to be accurate there has been no known situation where the switch was actually required, although it does help a LOT in figuring out what is going on so the grounding can be applied.

 

I am NOT going to name specific devices involved in the situations where we found this happening because it is NOT device specific, a configuration where this happened had the issue with many different pieces of equipment in the same configuration.

 

The upshot is that in all the isolation going on in a system just make sure you have one and only one point of ground in the system and you should not have the problem.

 

John S.

[Superdad]

1 hour ago, JohnSwenson said:

The upshot is that in all the isolation going on in a system just make sure you have one and only one point of ground in the system and you should not have the problem.

 

Well to be honest, I can not personally vouch for the "one and only one" ground point admonition in relation to ISO REGEN use.  In my system I had ZERO ground points with EVERYTHING floated from mains (I've just never found there to be anything on my house ground of benefit to an audio system; and yes I know and accept the potential hazard).

So the problem I experienced was that I needed at least one component grounded--otherwise I needed to use the "ground isolation defeat switch" on the ISO REGEN.

 

Of course most all of you know that it is best practice to either have just one component grounded to mains (I'd picked the power amp), or to have all your components plugged into the same low impedance power strip.  Multiple mains ground points in an audio system just invites in ground loop hum and other issues.

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By the way, I don't do Facebook or post cat videos, and you guys are my online social circle, I'll bore you with snapshots of our delicious meal right on the beach tonight (my lovely wife made me crop her out of her scallops dish photo because I caught her chewing!)

 

 

Snorkling tomorrow!!

[Middy]

Posting great food is just really Shellfish of Superdad...?

[rickca]

6 hours ago, JohnSwenson said:

I am NOT going to name specific devices involved in the situations where we found this happening because it is NOT device specific, a configuration where this happened had the issue with many different pieces of equipment in the same configuration.

 

 

Thanks, John.  That's exactly what I wanted you to clarify.

[austinpop]

6 hours ago, Middy said:

Posting great food is just really Shellfish of Superdad...?

 

If he had any sense, he would clam up for the rest of his vacation. Why flounder in the day-today q&a of his forum? Instead - he should just kick back and enjoy his beachside perch.

 

[Middy]

 Sea...I didn't want to start a wave of fish puns.

Only cod-ding of course. I hake too many of them.  

They make you crabby.... Just don't get hooked on them... Thats the net these days. .. Swimming in them. ....

I am shore Superdad doesn't mind.

.... ?

 

 

[watercourse]

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[kalinka]

I have a question for those who already listened to the iso regen: how much better you would say it is when compared to the original regen?

 

Let's say, in a scale of 0 to 100%, how much better the iso regen is?

 

I know this kind of question might be tricky to answer, but I'm not looking for some scientific answer - just something to keep the curiosity & anxiety under control, lol.