MQA is Vaporware

[mcgillroy]

They really want to own music end-to-end: recording, mastering, performing, listening.

 

All mangled through the same encoder and DRM’ed via their PKI. Who owns access to the files then...

[ShawnC]

Next live event are airplanes taking off at Heathrow.  It's just like your there.

[FredericV]

3 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Fans can listen to a live concert in its original quality, as if they were standing in the venue

 

blah blah blah

• In the lounge: Bluesound Powernode 2 streamer with Sony SS-CS5 Stereo bookshelf speakers

• In the bedroom: Bluesound Pulse Flex portable all-in-one wireless speaker

 

These devices are not even capable of doing the SPL of a typical live venue.
To have the sound of a live concert at home, you would need bigger speakers or a small PA set.

This is just a showcase of their existing partner products.
There's nothing authentic about listening to a concert via such limited gear.
 

[FredericV]

1 hour ago, ShawnC said:

Next live event are airplanes taking off at Heathrow.  It's just like your there.

It think it's going to need more then 17 bits of resolution to capture the dynamic range:

https://sciencing.com/decibel-level-jet-plane-5375252.html

 

But hey, maybe MQA live can encode the quack band:

[Ralf11]

But hey "Triangular Encoding"  !!!     it is Techno-magical-Science

 

at least according to Scroggy, who is using it in almost every post he makes on the SH site

 

and the 17 bits get unfolded back to 24 !!

[Brinkman Ship]

MQA Live?..I needed a good laugh today..thanks guys.

 

[FredericV]

53 minutes ago, Brinkman Ship said:

MQA Live?..I needed a good laugh today..thanks guys.

 

 

Does MQA live also works wireless? Like streaming the live quack band while it's moving through the city? Or does it only work with fixed PA setups?
 

 

[Audinator]

7 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

MQA LIVE LAUNCHES IN AUSTIN WITH EXCLUSIVE JAKE ISAAC LIVESTREAM

 

PRESS RELEASE

[snip]

How it works

MQA has applied its ground-breaking technology to make a real time encoder, which connects easily to the audio system of the location and then can be sent into the chosen delivery platform of promoters and venue owners. The only additional equipment required is MQA's live encoder box at the venue to encode the performance. This keeps production costs low, while the MQA encoding process preserves audio quality and addresses bandwidth issues. 

A majority of live sound performance that I have ever worked in recent memory have run everything over a digital snake using Dante at 48kHz. Where is the bandwidth savings with MQA?

[Ralf11]

1 hour ago, FredericV said:

 

 

 

I swear I saw one of those geese do a second unfolding

[FredericV]

6 hours ago, Ralf11 said:

 

I swear I saw one of those geese do a second unfolding

Around 01:00 in the video, I saw a lot of quack unfolds

[The Computer Audiophile]

On 12/30/2017 at 6:05 AM, rwdvis said:

 

 

You may be able to fool some but I have zero doubt you have some connection to MQA, the industry, or even CA directly.  Your continued defense of MQA and constant responses to critics is odd.  Too odd.  Now you’re baiting and trying to set up some of the most vocal critics in order to silence and eliminate with this “what positive contributions” nonsense.  You’re attempting to set a narrative to give Chris some seeming justification for banning, or at least silencing.  Your tactic is to bait, anger, misdirect and raise suspicion to get a reaction and then Chris steps in with the “recently banned critic X made no positive contribution to the site and our wonderful hobby” line.

 

You’re using the same tactic as Chris was regarding MQA.  Which is/was, faux-neutrality and constant “friendly” advice on how to conduct oneself when critiquing MQA (ie., don’t say too many bad things about MQA, or else).  You’re also trying to redirect critics to some other topics.  You’d rather the critics spend their time in other areas of the site, obviously, so less time is spent on examining and critiquing MQA.  Odd.  Why is it that someone who claims to have little knowledge of, connection with, or interest in MQA be so concerned with what others do with their time regarding MQA?  For someone who claims to have “no particular knowledge of or connection with MQA” you seem to be awfully concerned with those who examine and critique it.

 

For those who feel the need to jump in and tell me I’m off the mark, read this particular line carefully and actually think for a minute, and then conclude.  It should be clear.

 

“I’m sure you wouldn't want anyone to think, mistakenly, that  you only came  onto this site to slag  off MQA.”

Give me a break. I host the worlds largest anti-MQA threads and pay someone to write a front page article on the same topic and you still say the same nonsense.

 

There is no pleasing you. I believe you just like to bust balls.  

 

 

[Rt66indierock]

1 hour ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Give me a break. I host the worlds largest anti-MQA threads and pay someone to write a front page article on the same topic and you still say the same nonsense.

 

There is no pleasing you. I believe you just like to bust balls.  

 

 

 

I've got to wonder why he brings up an old quote from Norton. Norton even listened to Foghat MQA files and reported back which was helpful. 

[Don Hills]

37 minutes ago, Rt66indierock said:

I've got to wonder why he brings up an old quote from Norton. ...

 

I've got to wonder why Chris brings up an old quote from rwdvis.

[miguelito]

On 12/29/2017 at 6:11 PM, mansr said:

The Mytek DACs have the same issue. Unless the MQA decoder is completely disabled, one of those horrid filters is used for all PCM.

This is pretty pathetic for what I would call high end DACs. I doubt that it is on purpose though. The Dragonfly doesn't have such a flaw!

[Ralf11]

47 minutes ago, Don Hills said:

 

I've got to wonder why Chris brings up an old quote from rwdvis.

 

Spring cleaning?  He just beat the equinox

[FredericV]

Even musicians are sceptic about MQA live:

https://www.stereonet.co.uk/articles/comment-mqa-live-from-a-musicians-viewpoint

 

Musicians will earn less when MQA is in the loop, and he also claims most gigs are not even audiophile quality.

Also looking at highres sites like HRA, the fake pseudo highres files (MQA) cost more than the non-DRM real 24 bit 192 Khz files. Knowing MQA is not any better than 17 bit 96 Khz, it's clear MQA is adding to the cost with no proven SQ boost over the real 24/192 files (in case of HRA), infecting every part of the music production and reproduction chain.

So only MQA benefits.

[beetlemania]

On 3/20/2018 at 6:31 PM, The Computer Audiophile said:

Give me a break. I host the worlds largest anti-MQA threads and pay someone to write a front page article on the same topic and you still say the same nonsense.

 

Curious why you responded almost 3 months later. Also, your latter point ("pay someone to write a front page article") was not true when @rwdvis wrote that post.

[The Computer Audiophile]

1 minute ago, beetlemania said:

 

Curious why you responded almost 3 months later. Also, your latter point ("pay someone to write a front page article") was not true when @rwdvis wrote that post.

Thanks for bringing this up. @rwdvis was after me in another thread and I clicked on his user profile and saw his post here. I mistakenly figured it was more recent. My fault.

[Ralf11]

what sanctions will you apply to yourself?

[beetlemania]

2 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Thanks for bringing this up. @rwdvis was after me in another thread and I clicked on his user profile and saw his post here. I mistakenly figured it was more recent. My fault.

 

Aww, now it makes sense. That's for clarifying.

[Rt66indierock]

On the off chance this gets deleted on Stereophile.

 

Let there be dark

 

I’m sorry Paul (Miller) there will be no synergy or place to leverage these brands. All this acquisition did was create your own echo chamber.

 

Keith (Pray) in a similar vein this group will have no global power or breadth. The companies are too small. Let’s review 2016 publically available information, AVTech Media Ltd reports as a small company as do its owners Mytime Media Ltd and Miller Audio Research Ltd. Mytime Media Ltd is owned by Mytime Media Group a small company. Mytime Media Group Ltd is owned by Mytime Media Holding Ltd a small company. Mytime Media Holding Ltd is a small company owned by two individuals and venture capital company.

 

The simple fact is the Home Tech Network did not fit the demographics of The Entertainment Network or their joint venture partner Discovery.

[skikirkwood]

It's 2018 and hi-finews.com doesn't yet have a responsive design for mobile devices.  For me, that sums up the state of this group.

 

 

[Brinkman Ship]

1 hour ago, Rt66indierock said:

On the off chance this gets deleted on Stereophile.

 

Let there be dark

 

I’m sorry Paul (Miller) there will be no synergy or place to leverage these brands. All this acquisition did was create your own echo chamber.

 

Keith (Pray) in a similar vein this group will have no global power or breadth. The companies are too small. Let’s review 2016 publically available information, AVTech Media Ltd reports as a small company as do its owners Mytime Media Ltd and Miller Audio Research Ltd. Mytime Media Ltd is owned by Mytime Media Group a small company. Mytime Media Group Ltd is owned by Mytime Media Holding Ltd a small company. Mytime Media Holding Ltd is a small company owned by two individuals and venture capital company.

 

The simple fact is the Home Tech Network did not fit the demographics of The Entertainment Network or their joint venture partner Discovery.

In your opinion, what do you see happening..consolidation.? personnel shake ups?

 

Properties being folded?

[Rt66indierock]

21 minutes ago, Brinkman Ship said:

In your opinion, what do you see happening..consolidation.? personnel shake ups?

 

Properties being folded?

 

I see some consolidation and personnel are duplicated. But this tells me how small a footprint Stereophile has. 

[Brinkman Ship]

9 minutes ago, Rt66indierock said:

 

I see some consolidation and personnel are duplicated. But this tells me how small a footprint Stereophile has. 

Total guess on my part, but the fact TEN was so willing to dump these properties may indicate they were not exactly over performing. I could be wrong. If Miller got a great deal, he may be able to make something of it after trimming the fat.