A novel way to massively improve the SQ of computer audio streaming

[RickyV]

46 minutes ago, tims said:

Mind if I ask where you're getting them from?

Thanks

 

I live in the Netherlands so it is a Dutch firm, I can give you name?

[jean-michel6]

On the  NUC7PJYH  is it possible to deactivate the wifi and bluetooth either through the bios or physically ?

[LTG2010]

2 minutes ago, jean-michel6 said:

On the  NUC7PJYH  is it possible to deactivate the wifi and bluetooth either through the bios or physically ?

Definitely in the bios you can disable both, haven't checked yet if you can pull out the wifi module.

[lmitche]

4 minutes ago, jean-michel6 said:

On the  NUC7PJYH  is it possible to deactivate the wifi and bluetooth either through the bios or physically ?

Yes, in bios. The nic as well.

[Bricki]

13 minutes ago, lmitche said:

Yes, in bios. The nic as well.

Is there a sq advantage to removing the wifi card over disabling it in the bios? I have disabled wlan and Bluetooth is it worthwhile removing it altogether? 

[Dev]

17 minutes ago, jean-michel6 said:

On the  NUC7PJYH  is it possible to deactivate the wifi and bluetooth either through the bios or physically ?

 

Not sure on the PJYH, but on the CJYH it seems like the Bios is a bit buggy (and I am running the latest, I guess its 0051). Even after you disable the wifi integrated controller (WLAN checkbox), the pci device is still active. On AL, you can issue "ip addr show" or "ifconfig" to see if they show up after disabling it in the Bios.

 

You can't physically pull out the wifi controller or bluetooth as its integrated into the board.

[Dev]

4 minutes ago, Bricki said:

Is there a sq advantage to removing the wifi card over disabling it in the bios? I have disabled wlan and Bluetooth is it worthwhile removing it altogether? 

 

Less devices means less noise, so there is definitely a slight advantage to it.

 

Which NUC you have and can you paste the output of "ip addr show" from AL ?

[lmitche]

2 minutes ago, Bricki said:

Is there a sq advantage to removing the wifi card over disabling it in the bios? I have disabled wlan and Bluetooth is it worthwhile removing it altogether? 

Neither  the Pentium or Celeron have removable cards because the logic is on the SOC. The best you can do is to disable in bios.

 

The i7 quad core NUC has a card in a m.2 slot and is removable. I don't know about the others.

[lmitche]

Run rfkill from the command line to see status.

[jaspal kallar]

16 hours ago, austinpop said:

 

Peter, I think you've got that backward. Our nomenclature is:

• Endpoint that you call the Audio Playing PC
  • Runs the music player like Roon Bridge or squeezelite that:
    • connects to the DAC or DDC via USB
    • connects to the music server via Ethernet
• Server, is that a Control PC in your world?
  • runs the music server (like Roon or LMS) that does
    • library management
    • serves music files from local storage or network storage
    • connects to endpoint over network.

 

 For the server  -- 'connects to endpoint over network.' -- is this a bridged ?

[Bricki]

9 minutes ago, lmitche said:

Neither  the Pentium or Celeron have removable cards because the logic is on the SOC. The best you can do is to disable in bios.

 

The i7 quad core NUC has a card in a m.2 slot and is removable. I don't know about the others.

Ah ok! I guess that shows that I didn't look very closely at anything when I opened it up to put the ram in ?. I am still patiently waiting for my akasa case to arrive (seemingly via snail) from Italy. 

[Bricki]

19 minutes ago, Dev said:

 

Less devices means less noise, so there is definitely a slight advantage to it.

 

Which NUC you have and can you paste the output of "ip addr show" from AL ?

I have the NUC7CJYH. I haven't updated the bios from whatever version it shipped with. I'll have to have a look at it tonight after work to see if the wifi/Bluetooth truly is disabled

[Solstice380]

8 hours ago, greenleo said:

Any command for this NAA?

 

I’m not sure I understand this question.  Please ask again.  ?

[tims]

1 hour ago, RickyV said:

 

I live in the Netherlands so it is a Dutch firm, I can give you name?

No, thats OK. Thanks for responding.

[austinpop]

56 minutes ago, jaspal kallar said:

 

 For the server  -- 'connects to endpoint over network.' -- is this a bridged ?

 

Conceptually, they're the same. It's just a detail. It could be bridged or each connected to a switch.

[greenleo]

Just now, Solstice380 said:

 

I’m not sure I understand this question.  Please ask again.  ?

Can this NAA switch mode between standard mode and extreme mode?

[Bricki]

Does anyone know what the difference is between lxqt and bfq? They both seem to be interchangeable terms for the GUI version? I think? 

[soares]

10 hours ago, Cornan said:

*LOL* It’s complicated! It might be a good idea for @austinpop to update the facts on the index with universial names when these terms are crystal clear.

 

In my world you have these:

 

1. Control point= The control device that is controling the music and telling the server what to play.

2. Server= The manager that is receiving the info from the control point and distribute the music to the render. This can either contain or be connected to a harddrive of any kind (local files) or a router (Tidal/Qubuz/NAS etc) both through wires or wifi.

3. Render= The endpoint where the upnp/dnla data is translated into music and forward to DAC in digital format.

 

There is upnp/dnla and Openhome streaming. With Openhome (wich us upnp/dnla compliant) the playlist is stored at the control point. With upnp/dnla the playlist is stored at the server. IMO Openhome sounds better! ?

 

 

Thank you Guys. I am afraid I can't follow you ?

I guess someone will propose soon a device already set for dummies...

uR MkII? ?

[austinpop]

11 hours ago, soares said:

Just to be clear, the NUC as an End Point is a sort of uR where the AL runs in memory? Sorry for ant misunderstanding.

 

Hi @soares,

 

Yes - your understanding is correct. The NUC as an endpoint can replace a uR, which is also an endpoint. Obviously beyond that, there are differences - in complexity, usability, etc, but don't worry - you had the right idea!

 

19 minutes ago, soares said:

I guess someone will propose soon a device already set for dummies...

uR MkII? ?

 

I have zero doubt that we will start to see NUC-based endpoint products (with a nice web UI) in due course!
 

[auricgoldfinger]

2 hours ago, soares said:

I guess someone will propose soon a device already set for dummies...

uR MkII? ?

 

http://thelinearsolution.com/streamer.html

 

[the_doc735]

3 minutes ago, auricgoldfinger said:

 

http://thelinearsolution.com/streamer.html

 

.....is it really happening?   ...companies starting to steal the NUC thunder?   ...and what is the price? It doesn't say?    ...e.g. 10 times the cost of a NUC perhaps?

[auricgoldfinger]

8 minutes ago, the_doc735 said:

.....is it really happening?   ...companies starting to steal the NUC thunder?   ...and what is the price? It doesn't say?    ...e.g. 10 times the cost of a NUC perhaps?

 

I may be mistaken, but as I understand it, a prototype of this product was revealed prior to the NUC craze taking hold of this thread.  People here picked up the ball and ran with it.

[the_doc735]

3 minutes ago, auricgoldfinger said:

 

I may be mistaken, but as I understand it, a prototype of this product was revealed prior to the NUC craze taking hold of this thread.  People here picked up the ball and ran with it.

oh! ~ prior to the NUC craze? Does it have a retail price? Has it gone to market yet?

Cheers!

[auricgoldfinger]

3 minutes ago, the_doc735 said:

oh! ~ prior to the NUC craze? Does it have a retail price? Has it gone to market yet?

Cheers!

 

Adrian told me he has shipped a few in the past week or two.  There may also be special introductory price for early adopters, but you'd have to confirm with him directly.  Here is the price list:  http://thelinearsolution.com/assets/files/2018%20TLS%20Price%20List-12-1.pdf

 

[rickca]

TLS certainly has the best product names.  DreamOS and THE ONE server.