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Brand new for that price is pretty darn good.

How do you get an extended warranty?

I should get a Sonic Transporter and get Roon off my laptop although it doesn't really seem to matter much because my laptop is always there and its a 2017 MacBook Pro.

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1 hour ago, DarwinOSX said:

Brand new for that price is pretty darn good.

How do you get an extended warranty?

I should get a Sonic Transporter and get Roon off my laptop although it doesn't really seem to matter much because my laptop is always there and its a 2017 MacBook Pro.

 

hi i was just hoping the retailer i'm buying them from offers an extended warranty.

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update: yes i bought a pair (ordered the white) decided to add extended warranty thru my retailer (it is also transferable)..got a 5 yr for cdn$250...normally i don't buy extended warranties, but just decided to play it safe given some of the issues with these

will help with resale value, too, when i eventually sell them down the road.

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I've just bought a pair of white LS50 Wireless speakers with the new performance stands and the combination looks stunning. I've filled the middle compartment and  front one of the stands with Atacama Atabites, and they are sitting on Atacama shoes. The speakers are still very much running in and it is too early to judge the sound, but there was certainly a significant jump in quality when I added the Atabites, and I would recommend the combination - you need just over three tubs to fill the stands.

 

I would prefer it if the cables that come with the white speakers were white, as the black cables spoil the visual effect a bit. Once the speakers are run in, I'm going to get a 5m Chord C-Streamer cable as it's white and will look better - I'll be interested to find out if it makes any difference to the sound but I'm mainly interested in them looking better. I may get a pair of IsoTek EVO3 Sequel Power Cables as they are white and 2m long although a bit pricier the the Evo Premier 3s that I use in my other systems.

 

I'm having two technical problems so far.

 

The first problem is that I set up the speaker with the iPad app for an IP address of 192.168.1.206 and my LAN, and then after configuring the router to give it a fixed IP address of 192.168.1.12 the iPad app can't find it anymore. I can scan the network with Fing and clearly the speaker is there with the new IP addess, and so I'm not sure what search criteria the iPad and Android KEF apps use to find the speakers on the LAN.

 

My second problem is that I can only play Red Book CD files with a Raspberry Pi running Moode Audio. When I try higher res files I get loads of crackling, even with 24/48 not just 24/192. I was using a Cardas Clear cable initially and tried changing to a Chord C-USB and also the USB cable that came with the speakers and they all suffered from the same problem. Yet my Android Motorola G5 with USB Pro Audio with an Audioquest OTG cable and the Cardas Clear works just fine. I really can't see how it could be a problem with the Moode Audio set up as I use it with several different DACs and have never had the slightest trouble.

 

On the bright side, the hardware volume control works fine with Moode which is really useful as it gives you a number which tells you how loud the volume is, which is missing from the display on the right speaker.

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23 minutes ago, Richard Dale said:

I've just bought a pair of white LS50 Wireless speakers with the new performance stands and the combination looks stunning. I've filled the middle compartment and  front one of the stands with Atacama Atabites, and they are sitting on Atacama shoes. The speakers are still very much running in and it is too early to judge the sound, but there was certainly a significant jump in quality when I added the Atabites, and I would recommend the combination - you need just over three tubs to fill the stands.

 

I would prefer it if the cables that come with the white speakers were white, as the black cables spoil the visual effect a bit. Once the speakers are run in, I'm going to get a 5m Chord C-Streamer cable as it's white and will look better - I'll be interested to find out if it makes any difference to the sound but I'm mainly interested in them looking better. I may get a pair of IsoTek EVO3 Sequel Power Cables as they are white and 2m long although a bit pricier the the Evo Premier 3s that I use in my other systems.

 

I would caution you against making all those changes, and doing them at once, before your new speakers are run-in and you've gotten acquainted with their sound.

One of the unwritten Golden Rules of Good Audio Practice states that one should only change a single variable at a time if we are to obtain meaninful information from our listening assessments. Change too things at a time and your clueless about which/what did or did not produce an audible effect.

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23 minutes ago, semente said:

 

I would caution you against making all those changes, and doing them at once, before your new speakers are run-in and you've gotten acquainted with their sound.

One of the unwritten Golden Rules of Good Audio Practice states that one should only change a single variable at a time if we are to obtain meaninful information from our listening assessments. Change too things at a time and your clueless about which/what did or did not produce an audible effect.

Yes, you are correct and I have enough personal experience to confirm your point. But later in my post when I talk about possibly upgrading to horribly expensive mains leads 'because they are white' I do say " Once the speakers are run in.." because I would need to be pretty certain that the speakers are giving my such a high level of sound quality that a 500 pound expenditure on the cables was justified.

 

With respect to putting some sort of high density filler in the KEF Performance stands, I would say it was a 'no brainer' and it only comes down to whether it should be sand, Atabites or a similar product. Even with my partly run in speakers, the Atabite improvement was clearly very audible, whereas I would only ever attempt to judge possible mains cable improvements on the 'one thing at a time, when the speakers are fully run in and a known quantity' basis as you advocate.

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48 minutes ago, bunno77 said:

If you're only worried about the colour of the cables then there are a few products to sort that out. Expandable cable sleeving and there is wrap around too. Very cheap and pretty much comes in ever colour possible

https://www.ebay.com.au/b/Braided-Cable-Sleeving-Cable-Guards/155057/bn_72172560

Thanks for the info, but I think by and large I would rather replace a cable if I didn't like the color, rather than wrap it in new sleeving. I also have a problem with the 3m right to left link cable in that it is too short to use with the cable management of the Performance stands if I have a seperation of the speakers of 2m - I think I need at least 4m and so a 5m Chord C-Streamer cable will fix that and allow the link cable to be hidden under a carpet.

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I feel with you!

 

I've also got the performance stands and replaced all cables with white ones.

The only exception was the optical cable for which i found no white replacement.

 

What i find a little disappointing: The stands color doesn't quite match the white of the speakers. I'll bring them to the car varnisher to repaint them.

But i love the cable management and the chance to fill them with sand.

And they really look good to me. 

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5 hours ago, Fridolin said:

I feel with you!

 

I've also got the performance stands and replaced all cables with white ones.

The only exception was the optical cable for which i found no white replacement.

 

What i find a little disappointing: The stands color doesn't quite match the white of the speakers. I'll bring them to the car varnisher to repaint them.

But i love the cable management and the chance to fill them with sand.

And they really look good to me. 

I think the color of the stands matches pretty exactly the off white finish of the front panel of the speakers, and isn't intended to match the brilliant gloss white of the main body of the speakers. I'm interested in hearing which types of white cable you bought, and if they were 'audiophile' ones. I certainly think that Atabites are a lot more dense than sand, but it is pretty difficult to do an AB comparison.

 

I haven't solved the crackling problem that I'm getting with Hi Res files yet. I would like to upgrade the firmware, but that needs a Mac or a Windows computer which I haven't got in the flat where the speakers are. My work laptop has a Windows partition, although I always use it with Linux, and I need to find how to login to that and use the laptop for a firmware upgrade.

 

The LS50s are running a web server, and according to that, the firmware is p6.1131702141.103217421, which doesn't seem to correspond to version numbers that people have been refering to on this thread. I had a quite look at the source of the index.html page, but didn't manage to see any clues as to how the network upgrade option might work.

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Fridolin   

My stands are quite a bit more beige than the speaker fronts.

Maybe the speakers will become beige, too.

 

I didn't choose my white cables for audio quality but only for eye-candy.

But i changed each of the cables of my fully connected LS50w(s).

So the cables probably would become more expensive than the speakers with really high audio quality.

 

Is the Atacama Atabites really more heavy and dense than quartz sand?

Did you fill the entire height of the stands or part of them?

 

You can't update the speaker firmware over ethernet or WiFi.

A USB connection from the computer to the speakers is needed.

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On 12/4/2017 at 4:30 AM, Richard Dale said:

I've just bought a pair of white LS50 Wireless speakers with the new performance stands and the combination looks stunning. I've filled the middle compartment and  front one of the stands with Atacama Atabites, and they are sitting on Atacama shoes. The speakers are still very much running in and it is too early to judge the sound, but there was certainly a significant jump in quality when I added the Atabites, and I would recommend the combination - you need just over three tubs to fill the stands.

 

Three tubs of 7.5Kg each?

 

was looking at the Performance stand as well but how full did you filled in each stand?

 

Btw, anyone knows where to get some discount on the stand,  please PM me.  :)

 

 

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They mention on the KEF Facebook site that you shouldn't put longer than 3m ethernet cable between the speakers. It's because of the clock signal etc. If you need 4 m, I suggest you try to find one at that length, and not go for longer.

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10 hours ago, y26day said:

 

Three tubs of 7.5Kg each?

 

was looking at the Performance stand as well but how full did you filled in each stand?

 

Btw, anyone knows where to get some discount on the stand,  please PM me.  :)

 

 

It doesn't actually state the weight on the tubs, but they are labelled 'SMD-Z 7.5HD' and I assume the '7.5' refers to 7.5kg. I filled the cavities completely to the top with the help of a small plastic funnel, and then stuck the black circular stickers provided with the stands over the holes.

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22 hours ago, Fridolin said:

My stands are quite a bit more beige than the speaker fronts.

Maybe the speakers will become beige, too.

 

I didn't choose my white cables for audio quality but only for eye-candy.

But i changed each of the cables of my fully connected LS50w(s).

So the cables probably would become more expensive than the speakers with really high audio quality.

 

Is the Atacama Atabites really more heavy and dense than quartz sand?

Did you fill the entire height of the stands or part of them?

 

You can't update the speaker firmware over ethernet or WiFi.

A USB connection from the computer to the speakers is needed.

According to the Atacama site "Atabites has an approximate density of 2403 KG/m sq. compared to dry sand which has a typical rating of just 1442 KG/m sq."  http://www.atacama-audio.co.uk/p/atabites-smd-z-7-5hd-inert-filler 

 

I've just read that they say you should fill the stands to two thirds of the volume of the stands, and I filled them right up to the top - bother! I wish they had written some instructions about that on the tubs.

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canali   

friendly heads up...SVS just started a limited edition of their popular

SB2000 series in WHITE gloss...i couldn't resist so i ordered one to match my incoming white speakers and performance stands.

(might go dual eventually..but am a bit tight $$$ right now).

https://www.svsound.com/products/sb-2000

 

i also bought an isoacoustic stand for the sub.

http://www.isoacoustics.com/products/iso-l8r-series-speaker-isolation-stands/iso-l8r200sub-acoustic-isolation-stand-for-subwoofers/

 

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guys:  a question on setup.

 

so i will have my kef ls50 w in the living room with tv.

in my kitchen/desktop sits my MR, LPS1 and chord mojo, roon/laptop, ipad mini4.

 

i just got in a sonictransporter i5.

 

is it better to keep the system separate? i've read of less 'noise' and better SQ when  people are doing this? or just move everything to the living room near the speakers?

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