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SACD Ripping using an Oppo or Pioneer? Yes, it's true!


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Holy sh*t this is awesome. Thank you, and looking forward to the links and further details.

 

I'm also guessing now would be a good time for folks to make sure their internet-connected Oppo, Cambridge, and Pioneer players are not set to auto-update future firmware upgrades, in case the manufacturers see this and try to disable this capability in the future.

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Thanks, Ted.

Yes, very very interesting ... given that I don't have ps3 & was waiting ... on Mr W's hardware effort.

Caveat, being in Oz, I've got the Oppo105 mod for multi-region. Just can't do without a diet of the Criterion Collection! We'll see.

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And maybe one of these days Mr. Wicked will decide to complete his USB solution:).

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Time to get rid of my spare PS3 units?

;-)

 

Lets wait and see ...

As I need a (new) BluRay player anyway, I might get one of the mentioned, just to be prepared ;-)

 

thanks Ted (and all others involved with this...)

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Note: I told the PS3 thread I would announce what I've found, so I am writing this first post, long before I am ready to (i.e I don't have the links ready yet, nor the instructions). I expect my second post to be ready in a few more days.

 

Thanks to some very ingenious folks on other forums around the world, Mr Wicked's sacd_extract.exe has been found to be effective in ripping SACDS in those players that:

1) have Mediatek chips MT8580 (like Oppo 103/105, Cambridge Audio 752bd/cxu, Pioneer bdp-lx58/88 ) or MT8560 (like Pioneer BDP-160/170 and 180)

2) have an ethernet connection

3) have normal factory firmwares (meaning no mods)

 

The process involves two major steps:

1) create a USB thumb drive that contains an Autoscript program and a Telnet program, then plug it into your player to have it boot up with these scripts

2) using something like Putty (Windows, for example) Telnet from a computer into the BD/SACD/universal player above, then run a command line file that starts the ISO extraction.

 

Both of these steps require links that I will either edit here, or create a new post with them. I am still quite confused as to whether some of these files are different based on Mediatek chip version, of if this is all universal.

 

Here is an idea of the process (google translated and simplified)

01 – Folder AutoScript contain a server program (daemon) to rip original SACD discs

02 – Folder sacd_extract contain a windows client sacd_extract.exe and a file sacd.cmd. You should put this folder on a drive or partition with enough space to create .iso image. Edit sacd.cmd file with Notepad or another editor to change the IP address of the player. PC must be on the same network with the player

03 – Prepare clean USB stick

04 – Copy AutoScript folder with 3 files inside to the root of USB stick

05 – Disconnect from the player all USB devices

06 – Restart the player

07 – Check the Player menu and save IP address of the lan interface. Don’t forget to edit sacd.cmd

08 – It’s better to disable disc Autoplay

09 – Insert prepared USB stick into the player

10 – Wait until the tray is ejected

11 – Remove USB stick from your player

12 – Put sacd disc in tray

13 – Press the Close button

14 – Wait until the disc is recognized by the player

15 – From the Windows run sacd.cmd file and the ripping process should start

16 – To rip another SACD make sure that the sacd_extract.exe worked until the end, eject the tray with previous disc and repeat steps 11-15

17 – Be sure to reboot the player at the end!

 

 

Net/net, don't sell your Oppo/Cambridge/Pioneer players (and add to this list if you know of any more). I will have links to the Autoscript, Autoscrpt.TSS and sacd.cmd as soon as possible, along with some screen shots, if possible. I wanted to get this out there.

 

Caveat: as with the PS3, this ripping process is ONLY intended for those who already own the SACD discs, for archiving or personal file-based playback purposes. Please do not pirate!!

Who else would be the first to report on this if not you, Ted?

 

So my big questions are, is the ripping process performed in real time and no faster? I'm guessing that would be the case, but I hate to guess.

 

And second, is there a difference in sound quality between the discs ripped on these machines vs. the PS3?

 

I ask because I've heard that some other modded OPPO rips can sound better than those coming from the PS3 for some reason.

 

Thanks a lot for the great information, Ted.

 

Joel

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Note: I told the PS3 thread I would announce what I've found, so I am writing this first post, long before I am ready to (i.e I don't have the links ready yet, nor the instructions). I expect my second post to be ready in a few more days.

 

Thanks to some very ingenious folks on other forums around the world, Mr Wicked's sacd_extract.exe has been found to be effective in ripping SACDS in those players that:

1) have Mediatek chips MT8580 (like Oppo 103/105, Cambridge Audio 752bd/cxu, Pioneer bdp-lx58/88 ) or MT8560 (like Pioneer BDP-160/170 and 180)

2) have an ethernet connection

3) have normal factory firmwares (meaning no mods)

 

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Caveat: as with the PS3, this ripping process is ONLY intended for those who already own the SACD discs, for archiving or personal file-based playback purposes. Please do not pirate!!

 

This is great news, but I have one initial query.

 

I have the following three players:

  • Pioneer DV-610 DVD/SA-CD universal player from 2009
  • Sony BDP-S770
  • Sony BDP=S790

 

The Pioneer has the Mediatek 1389EXE processor and has a multi-region firmware modification:

https://www.avforums.com/threads/pioneer-dv-610-v-dv-420.1072186/

 

Curious if any of these players would work for this. BTW, what's with the LAN connectivity requirement?

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I will repeat: this ripping capability is available for those BD/universal/SACD players that have the MT8580 or MT8560 chipsets ONLY!

 

Telnet is the only communication vehicle I am aware of that allows one to run this. That requires a LAN connection (I assume wireless is ok but don't know these players' capability).

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I will repeat: this ripping capability is available for those BD/universal/SACD players that have the MT8580 or MT8560 chipsets ONLY!

 

Telnet is the only communication vehicle I am aware of that allows one to run this. That requires a LAN connection (I assume wireless is ok but don't know these players' capability).

 

Ah, too bad for me, then - Oppo BDP-83 with MT8520.

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I will repeat: this ripping capability is available for those BD/universal/SACD players that have the MT8580 or MT8560 chipsets ONLY!

 

Telnet is the only communication vehicle I am aware of that allows one to run this. That requires a LAN connection (I assume wireless is ok but don't know these players' capability).

Thanks for this info, Ted. I hope (against hope, alas) that folks will chill and just wait for you to post the full info and links before bombarding you with further questions. Appreciate your service to our community.

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Thanks to some very ingenious folks on other forums around the world, Mr Wicked's sacd_extract.exe has been found to be effective in ripping SACDS in those players that:

1) have Mediatek chips MT8580 (like Oppo 103/105, Cambridge Audio 752bd/cxu, Pioneer bdp-lx58/88 ) or MT8560 (like Pioneer BDP-160/170 and 180)

Happen to know if MT8530HEFG (in Oppo 93) would work?

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BTW, what's with the LAN connectivity requirement?

How would you telnet in?

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I will repeat: this ripping capability is available for those BD/universal/SACD players that have the MT8580 or MT8560 chipsets ONLY!

 

This seems like hole manufacturers might want to plug once they learn of this. Might be a good idea to not accept future firmware updates for the compatible players that will be used as rippers.

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Replied to get notified when more details are ready...

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Using a telnet program like:

2) using something like Putty (Windows, for example) Telnet from a computer into the BD/SACD/universal player above, then run a command line file that starts the ISO extraction.

 

You need to telnet over LAN to the SACD Player to the daemon that's running on it, to control it and receive the data from the rip.

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Finally an alternate way to finding a particular PS3 with original firmware.

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I hope this doesn't turn into finding a Oppo with old firmware etc... I remain positive though. This is really cool.

 

At least we now have several models from different manufacturers to hunt for.

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