ted_b Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Thanks. Good to know!Will also be very interested in direct comparison of Sotm BPSU and the new Uptone unit when it becomes available. Realized today that I didn't bother to try the original Regen MPS unit on the microRendu. I don't expect much from it, but it will be another point of reference. I am powering with a JS-2 (7V; the other rail left unplugged) and will get a better sense before I switch to my SOtM dual battery supply. I suppose it makes no difference at the JS-2 9V; dunno. "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
Doak Posted May 7, 2016 Author Share Posted May 7, 2016 I am powering with a JS-2 (7V; the other rail left unplugged) and will get a better sense before I switch to my SOtM dual battery supply. I suppose it makes no difference at the JS-2 9V; dunno. Look forward to your impressions. Not sure what you mean about JS-2 7v and then JS-2 9v. Can you use it at both of these voltages? Doak's Audio System Link to comment
ted_b Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Yes, the Uptone JS-2 has two rails, each adjustable at 5V, 7V, 9V or 12V. When I use my Windows NAA machine I power it with the rail I have set for 12V (but I don't keep it that rail plugged in if using the other rail, as ground is shared). The other rail is currently set for 7V for uRendu but I could do 9V (probably just run hotter and break in faster, as per Jesus). My SOtM battery is 7V. "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
rah50 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Bob, what fiber switch are you using successfully with the uR? I can only comment on the uR with a new as well iPower. Sold the Regen b/f I could compare it's PS to the iPower so I can only say, I'm very pleased with the uR and iPower. Great sound! Not a fiber switch, just two MC100CM converters to isolate from the lan. Bob Mac Mini M1 12 volt dc > Roon > HQ Player to DSD 256 > Fibre to EtherRegen w/LPS1.2 and BG7TBL OCXO > Sonore microRendu v1.3 > IsoRegen > Denafrips Iris > i2s > Denafrips Pontus II > Schiit Freya+ w/ Linlai E-6SN7's > Nord One Up NCore 500 monoblocks REV D w/SI990Enh op amps > Martin Logan Impression 11A w/ dual Rythmik E15HP2 subs. Supra Cat8, JPS Labs Superconductor+ cables Link to comment
jtwrace Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Yes, the Uptone JS-2 has two rails, each adjustable at 5V, 7V, 9V or 12V. When I use my Windows NAA machine I power it with the rail I have set for 12V (but I don't keep it that rail plugged in if using the other rail, as ground is shared). The other rail is currently set for 7V for uRendu but I could do 9V (probably just run hotter and break in faster, as per Jesus). My SOtM battery is 7V. Just so you know I'm using 9VDC from the JS-2 and the µRendu is barely even warm to the touch. W10 NUC i7 (Gen 10) > Roon (Audiolense FIR) > Motu UltraLite mk5 > (4) Hypex NCore NC502MP > JBL M2 Master Reference +4 subs Watch my Podcast https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXMw_bZWBMtRWNJQfTJ38kA/videos Link to comment
Doak Posted May 7, 2016 Author Share Posted May 7, 2016 Yes, the Uptone JS-2 has two rails, each adjustable at 5V, 7V, 9V or 12V. When I use my Windows NAA machine I power it with the rail I have set for 12V (but I don't keep it that rail plugged in if using the other rail, as ground is shared). The other rail is currently set for 7V for uRendu but I could do 9V (probably just run hotter and break in faster, as per Jesus). My SOtM battery is 7V. Nice options! Doak's Audio System Link to comment
Forehaven Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Not a fiber switch, just two MC100CM converters to isolate from the lan. Thanks Bob. Ryzen 7 2700 PC Server, NUC7CJYH w. 4G Apacer RAM as Renderer/LPS 1.2 - IsoRegen/LPS-1/.2 - Singxer SU-1/LPS1.2 - Holo Spring Level 3 DAC - LTA MicroZOTL MZ2 - Modwright KWA 150 Signature Amp - Tidal Audio Piano's. . Link to comment
cat6man Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Some thoughts on power supplies. I previously ran a Logitech Touch, which was replaced with an sms100 and sotm battery. I then added a LH USB cable with split power and data out of the sms100 usb. The power leg of the LH cable was supplied by an Anker USB battery I had lying around and the improvement was amazing. So my setup powering was: sotm battery to run sms100 anker battery to replace 5V on split usb cable to DAC. i'll be getting my uRendu in June and it will be interesting to see if the split data/power LH usb cable has the same impact, or if the uRendu is an all-in-one solution that achieves the same magic. of course if the uRendu is even better, my head may explode due to an overload of goodness on a separate power supply note, does anyone have a recommendation for obtaining a good clean 7V from a car system (i.e. off the 12V car battery)? Link to comment
vortecjr Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Some thoughts on power supplies. I previously ran a Logitech Touch, which was replaced with an sms100 and sotm battery. I then added a LH USB cable with split power and data out of the sms100 usb. The power leg of the LH cable was supplied by an Anker USB battery I had lying around and the improvement was amazing. So my setup powering was: sotm battery to run sms100 anker battery to replace 5V on split usb cable to DAC. i'll be getting my uRendu in June and it will be interesting to see if the split data/power LH usb cable has the same impact, or if the uRendu is an all-in-one solution that achieves the same magic. of course if the uRendu is even better, my head may explode due to an overload of goodness on a separate power supply note, does anyone have a recommendation for obtaining a good clean 7V from a car system (i.e. off the 12V car battery)? You have to be very careful with this. Most cars exceed 12VDC. Probably best to use an isolated power supply that you can remove and charge externally. Use your SOtM battery power supply in the car. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
jtwrace Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 You have to be very careful with this. Most cars exceed 12VDC. Probably best to use an isolated power supply that you can remove and charge externally. Use your SOtM battery power supply in the car. He can use an isolated DC-DC converter like the Astrodyne and he'll be fine. Very simple to do and will offer a regulated 9VDC if it can handle it. I've had great results with these on high level DAQ sensors. ASD05-12S9 | Power Supplies | eCatalog | Astrodyne TDI W10 NUC i7 (Gen 10) > Roon (Audiolense FIR) > Motu UltraLite mk5 > (4) Hypex NCore NC502MP > JBL M2 Master Reference +4 subs Watch my Podcast https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXMw_bZWBMtRWNJQfTJ38kA/videos Link to comment
cat6man Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 He can use an isolated DC-DC converter like the Astrodyne and he'll be fine. Very simple to do and will offer a regulated 9VDC if it can handle it. I've had great results with these on high level DAQ sensors. ASD05-12S9 | Power Supplies | eCatalog | Astrodyne TDI thanks. i'm not actually planning on putting the uRendu in my car (you can exhale now Jesus) my car system is an OdroidU3 running squeezeplug and a wifi AP. the usb output goes into a GeekOut V2, analog output to aux in of my car's stereo front end. i currently have some dc-dc converters to give me 5V for the OdroidU3 and a fan (needed since this operates closed in the glovebox). i wouldn't expect much from the usb output of the OdroidU3 and plan to put my uptone usb regen between the Odroid and the GeekOut, hence the question about getting clean DC in the car.........but i will have to try the uRendu in the car just for the hell of it. Link to comment
MikeyFresh Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Just so you know I'm using 9VDC from the JS-2 and the µRendu is barely even warm to the touch. I'm finding the same is true using the 9vcd iPower supply, running barely warm to the touch which sort of surprised me, I was expecting it to produce more heat than that. Boycott HDtracks Boycott Lenbrook Boycott Warner Music Group Link to comment
ted_b Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Just so you know I'm using 9VDC from the JS-2 and the µRendu is barely even warm to the touch. Jason, what made you choose 9V vs 7V? I may change to 9V but wonder if it's even worth the comparison. Thx P.S. Never was able to compare to SOtM dual battery as it failed within 10 min every time (and is likely the reason behind my Zuma failure since it powered my SSD for forever until suddenly the thing would reboot every 30 min). Jesus has offered to look at it. "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
jtwrace Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Jason, what made you choose 9V vs 7V? It was one click down from 12VDC and I figured higher voltage if the case doesn't get too warm would be better. Doubt it makes a sonic difference though. W10 NUC i7 (Gen 10) > Roon (Audiolense FIR) > Motu UltraLite mk5 > (4) Hypex NCore NC502MP > JBL M2 Master Reference +4 subs Watch my Podcast https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXMw_bZWBMtRWNJQfTJ38kA/videos Link to comment
Doak Posted May 9, 2016 Author Share Posted May 9, 2016 I'm finding the same is true using the 9vcd iPower supply, running barely warm to the touch which sort of surprised me, I was expecting it to produce more heat than that. Tried the iFi iPower again today. This time I plugged it into my Blue Circle power conditioner.... Zowee! Think the iPower may be staying in place until the coming of the Mystery PSU. Sounding REALLY nice - at least as good as the Aries>Regen chain , IME ... and the best is yet to come. Doak's Audio System Link to comment
rogerdn Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 You have to be very careful with this. Most cars exceed 12VDC. Probably best to use an isolated power supply that you can remove and charge externally. Use your SOtM battery power supply in the car. Check out the BatteryBUSS that Dave's P.I? Audio makes, I ran a 12v Mini on one for couple yrs, he's converting it now to 7.5. Change the voltage on battery buss rogerdn Link to comment
Distinctive Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Those with both Regen and uRendu, have anyone tried the Meanwell PSU for the Regen on the uRendu and compared this against the iFi one for uRendu? Link to comment
Doak Posted May 11, 2016 Author Share Posted May 11, 2016 Those with both Regen and uRendu, have anyone tried the Meanwell PSU for the Regen on the uRendu and compared this against the iFi one for uRendu? Yes, I have done just that. The little iFi iPower, to me in my system, sounds substantially better. I also like it better than the 7.5v output of my HDPlex 100. My 8.3v Li-On battery supply has a smoother/rounder presentation which is an alternative, though I prefer the iFi overall. Doak's Audio System Link to comment
Distinctive Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Thanks Doak for stating your impressions. I was thinking of switching those PS' however the Regen cannot take 9VDC from the iFi (8V max) so I hope I reach the same conclusion. Link to comment
zybar Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Tomorrow afternoon I will get my Vinnie Rossi LIO updated so it can power the microRendu. Right now I am using the power supply that came with the UpTone Regen as my iFi power supply is noisy and I haven't been able to determine why. George Link to comment
Doak Posted May 12, 2016 Author Share Posted May 12, 2016 Tomorrow afternoon I will get my Vinnie Rossi LIO updated so it can power the microRendu. Right now I am using the power supply that came with the UpTone Regen as my iFi power supply is noisy and I haven't been able to determine why. George Wow, that is odd. While mine was not at all noticeably noisy, the sound did improve when I plugged it into my Blue Circle power conditioner. Doak's Audio System Link to comment
zybar Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 I moved some things around and can now plug the iFi into a Pi Audio UbrrBuss or a Furman IT-Ref 20 balanced power conditioner. Hopefully that will take care of the noise. I would like to compare the iFi power supply to Vinnie's solution. George Link to comment
Doak Posted May 12, 2016 Author Share Posted May 12, 2016 I moved some things around and can now plug the iFi into a Pi Audio UbrrBuss or a Furman IT-Ref 20 balanced power conditioner. Hopefully that will take care of the noise. I would like to compare the iFi power supply to Vinnie's solution. George Great, that will be interesting and helpful. Doak's Audio System Link to comment
rrwwss52 Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Received my microRendu today. Install was simple and it fired up without any issues. I locked right into Roon Ready mode and it sounded good right out of the box with the IFi power supply. The microRendu is within a cabinet, so I modifed a Parasound zbreeze fan (by installing taller feet to the zbreeze) to keep the device cool. Looking forward to more listening and any improvements after it settles in. Great job Sonore! Moved the Regen over to the iMac Cambridge Audio DAC setup. Link to comment
hifiveharry Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 I strongly recommend looking for a HP 6286A D.C. variable power supply. These were built around 1980 and cost around $1000 even back then. They were made to power HP test equipment , so they are very accurate and well built. You can adjust voltage and amperage by the oversize meter on the faceplate. My system sounded best at 8.9 volts and I do believe that different voltages slightly alter the presentation. Link to comment
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