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Just saw your post update. I updated the SOSE software to the newest version, rebooted both the SOSE and RoonServer. No playback issues but one thing i noticed is that Roon still shows 1.0.9 as the version number and the SOSE shows the RoonReady Version number as 1.0.11. I don't know if this matters or not but thought i would relay it. Highest DSD resloution in Roon for my NuPrime is showing DSD128 as well, though i belive you stated that was a limitation on that side.

 

Thanks.

 

Play DSD64, go to the GUI, and then send me the text in DAC Diagnostics via email to sonorejr@gmail.com

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@vortecjr--

 

Now for another annoying question:

 

@Foggie pointed me to this thread on the What's Best Forum:

 

Amanero now supporting native DSD In Linux

 

Does this mean that you could support native DSD on the Lampizator DACs with the SOSE or microRendu?

 

(My SOSE is in your order queue.)

 

--David

 

Yes. We have been working on it today. However, the code and the firmware have not been tested. We need a volunteer with a SE and Lampi DAC to test things. If you have this combination and would like to test native DSD on it email me at sonorejr@gmail.com.

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Jesus R, can you look into native DSD support for the Unison Research CD Due. Thanks.

 

 

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Jesus R, can you look into native DSD support for the Unison Research CD Due. Thanks.

 

 

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If you have a Sonicorbiter SE send me the data on the DAC Diognostics GUI page.

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Yes. We have been working on it today. However, the code and the firmware have not been tested. We need a volunteer with a SE and Lampi DAC to test things. If you have this combination and would like to test native DSD on it email me at sonorejr@gmail.com.

 

Looks like this is going to need more work. It's hard to get this right without a unit to test on. Does anyone know what devices use the Amanero USB board? So far I know about AMI Musik and Lampi.

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If you have a Sonicorbiter SE send me the data on the DAC Diognostics GUI page.

 

Is this correct is what you requested?

 

DAC description: UNISON CDP 2 20b1:302d

Diagnostic information for this DAC

UNISON RESEARCH UNISON CDP 2 at usb-ci_hdrc.1-1.1, high speed : USB Audio

 

Playback:

Status: Running

Interface = 1

Altset = 2

Packet Size = 31

Momentary freq = 44103 Hz (0x5.8348)

Feedback Format = 16.16

Interface 1

Altset 1

Format: S32_LE

Channels: 2

Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC)

Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000

Data packet interval: 125 us

Interface 1

Altset 2

Format: S16_LE

Channels: 2

Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC)

Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000

Data packet interval: 125 us

Interface 1

Altset 3

Format: SPECIAL

Channels: 2

Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC)

Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000

Data packet interval: 125 us

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Looks like this is going to need more work. It's hard to get this right without a unit to test on. Does anyone know what devices use the Amanero USB board? So far I know about AMI Musik and Lampi.

 

I would love to help test (Lampi L7) as I'm sure most would also. If anyone in the MN area has a SOSE (or equiv if that even applies) I would be more than happy to assist in testing.

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Is this correct is what you requested?

 

DAC description: UNISON CDP 2 20b1:302d

Diagnostic information for this DAC

UNISON RESEARCH UNISON CDP 2 at usb-ci_hdrc.1-1.1, high speed : USB Audio

 

Playback:

Status: Running

Interface = 1

Altset = 2

Packet Size = 31

Momentary freq = 44103 Hz (0x5.8348)

Feedback Format = 16.16

Interface 1

Altset 1

Format: S32_LE

Channels: 2

Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC)

Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000

Data packet interval: 125 us

Interface 1

Altset 2

Format: S16_LE

Channels: 2

Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC)

Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000

Data packet interval: 125 us

Interface 1

Altset 3

Format: SPECIAL

Channels: 2

Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC)

Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000

Data packet interval: 125 us

 

That looks good!

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I would love to help test (Lampi L7) as I'm sure most would also. If anyone in the MN area has a SOSE (or equiv if that even applies) I would be more than happy to assist in testing.

Will test my Lampizator L4G5. I suspect the L7 and L4 use the same Amerano USB receiver. Setting up the uRendu and Sonic Transporter.

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Hello, I'm actually not sure whether my LH Labs Geek Out 450 supports "native" DSD or not; and to be clear, I don't necessarily care that much myself, as I intend to use my Sonicorbiter SE primarily with another, non-DSD DAC. I thought I would provide the diagnostic output just in case it would be helpful, though.

 

[h=3]USB DAC[/h]

DAC description: Geek Out HD Audio 1V5 2522:0007

 

Diagnostic information for this DAC

 

LH Labs Geek Out HD Audio 1V5 at usb-ci_hdrc.0-1, high speed : USB Audio

 

Playback:

Status: Running

Interface = 1

Altset = 1

Packet Size = 228

Momentary freq = 176411 Hz (0x16.0d28)

Feedback Format = 16.16

Interface 1

Altset 1

Format: S32_LE

Channels: 2

Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC)

Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000

Data packet interval: 125 us

Interface 1

Altset 2

Format: SPECIAL

Channels: 2

Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC)

Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000

Data packet interval: 125 us access: RW_INTERLEAVED

format: S32_LE

subformat: STD

channels: 2

rate: 176400 (176400/1)

period_size: 22050

buffer_size: 88200

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Hello, I'm actually not sure whether my LH Labs Geek Out 450 supports "native" DSD or not; and to be clear, I don't necessarily care that much myself, as I intend to use my Sonicorbiter SE primarily with another, non-DSD DAC. I thought I would provide the diagnostic output just in case it would be helpful, though.

 

Thank you. It's being worked on already.

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Any word on the Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme? I just ordered my mR this morning and will be more than happy to test once it arrives.

 

Here is the DAC Diagnostics information while playing a DSD64 file from HQ Player (no audio of course).

 

 

USB output

DAC description: xCORE USB Audio 2.0 20b1:3021

Diagnostic information for this DAC

XMOS xCORE USB Audio 2.0 at usb-ci_hdrc.1-1.1, high speed : USB Audio

 

Playback:

Status: Running

Interface = 1

Altset = 1

Packet Size = 294

Momentary freq = 383997 Hz (0x2f.ffe8)

Feedback Format = 16.16

Interface 1

Altset 1

Format: S24_3LE

Channels: 2

Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC)

Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000

Data packet interval: 125 us

Interface 1

Altset 2

Format: S32_LE

Channels: 2

Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC)

Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000

Data packet interval: 125 us

Interface 1

Altset 3

Format: SPECIAL

Channels: 2

Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC)

Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000

Data packet interval: 125 us

 

Capture:

Status: Stop

Interface 2

Altset 1

Format: S32_LE

Channels: 2

Endpoint: 2 IN (ASYNC)

Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000

Data packet interval: 125 usaccess: RW_INTERLEAVED

format: S24_3LE

subformat: STD

channels: 2

rate: 384000 (384000/1)

period_size: 38400

buffer_size: 76800

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Here is the DAC Diagnostics information while playing a DSD64 file from HQ Player (no audio of course).

 

 

USB output

DAC description: xCORE USB Audio 2.0 20b1:3021

Diagnostic information for this DAC

XMOS xCORE USB Audio 2.0 at usb-ci_hdrc.1-1.1, high speed : USB Audio

 

Playback:

Status: Running

Interface = 1

Altset = 1

Packet Size = 294

Momentary freq = 383997 Hz (0x2f.ffe8)

Feedback Format = 16.16

Interface 1

Altset 1

Format: S24_3LE

Channels: 2

Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC)

Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000

Data packet interval: 125 us

Interface 1

Altset 2

Format: S32_LE

Channels: 2

Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC)

Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000

Data packet interval: 125 us

Interface 1

Altset 3

Format: SPECIAL

Channels: 2

Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC)

Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000

Data packet interval: 125 us

 

Capture:

Status: Stop

Interface 2

Altset 1

Format: S32_LE

Channels: 2

Endpoint: 2 IN (ASYNC)

Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000

Data packet interval: 125 usaccess: RW_INTERLEAVED

format: S24_3LE

subformat: STD

channels: 2

rate: 384000 (384000/1)

period_size: 38400

buffer_size: 76800

 

Is this a DIY board? Post a link to the product page? DoP should work fine into it.

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Is this a DIY board? Post a link to the product page? DoP should work fine into it.

 

Eastern Electric Audio - MiniMax Tube DAC Supreme

 

I was pretty wiped out last night by the time I got around to DSD, but i didn't see the DSD options for the mR in Roon that I remember when connected directly to the DAC via USB. I should be in better shape tonight to take a closer look.

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Got mine today and listening - RoonReady and NAA outputs both work very well :)

 

I would like to figure out, however, how to get two things working:

 

1) Native DSD with LH Labs Pulse XFi - It should be able to play direct (e.g., no DoP) via the microRendu - how to get this enabled?

2) DSD256 - I have the latest LH Labs firmware which enables DSD256 on the Pulse - how to get this enabled?

 

Here are the diagnostics with the DAC playing DSD128 via RoonReady:

 

DAC description: Geek Pulse X Infinity 2V0 2522:0009

Diagnostic information for this DAC

LH Labs Geek Pulse X Infinity 2V0 at usb-ci_hdrc.1-1.1, high speed : USB Audio

 

Playback:

Status: Running

Interface = 1

Altset = 1

Packet Size = 392

Momentary freq = 352796 Hz (0x2c.1978)

Feedback Format = 16.16

Interface 1

Altset 1

Format: S32_LE

Channels: 2

Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC)

Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000

Data packet interval: 125 us

Interface 1

Altset 2

Format: SPECIAL

Channels: 2

Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC)

Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000

Data packet interval: 125 usaccess: RW_INTERLEAVED

format: S32_LE

subformat: STD

channels: 2

rate: 352800 (352800/1)

period_size: 8820

buffer_size: 35280

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+1 to JHWalker's questions above. I have the same DAC. . LH Labs Pulse Xfi.

 

I will be using RoonReady Mode.

 

Thanks

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Got mine today and listening - RoonReady and NAA outputs both work very well :)

 

I would like to figure out, however, how to get two things working:

 

1) Native DSD with LH Labs Pulse XFi - It should be able to play direct (e.g., no DoP) via the microRendu - how to get this enabled?

2) DSD256 - I have the latest LH Labs firmware which enables DSD256 on the Pulse - how to get this enabled?

 

Cool. I'll submit the data for you and then we have to update the unit. It's a long process. If it really supports DoP at the rate then go to the GUI and in Settings/RoonReady make sure you have it set for DoP output. For NAA you have to go to HQ Player and set it there.

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Is this a DIY board? Post a link to the product page? DoP should work fine into it.

 

Jesus,

 

Ok, I'm able to play a DSD file from Roon (no HQ Player for now). Here is the DAC diag info for a DSD64 file:

 

DAC description: xCORE USB Audio 2.0 20b1:3021

Diagnostic information for this DAC

XMOS xCORE USB Audio 2.0 at usb-ci_hdrc.1-1.1, high speed : USB Audio

 

Playback:

Status: Running

Interface = 1

Altset = 2

Packet Size = 392

Momentary freq = 352795 Hz (0x2c.1970)

Feedback Format = 16.16

Interface 1

Altset 1

Format: S24_3LE

Channels: 2

Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC)

Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000

Data packet interval: 125 us

Interface 1

Altset 2

Format: S32_LE

Channels: 2

Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC)

Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000

Data packet interval: 125 us

Interface 1

Altset 3

Format: SPECIAL

Channels: 2

Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC)

Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000

Data packet interval: 125 us

 

 

EDIT: BAH, I just discovered the DoP check mark box in the Roon Ready settings for the mR. I'm now playing DSD64 and 128 files using DoP directly from Roon as well as through HQ Player. So is there a way (or a reason) to send Native DSD to the DAC? Thanks!

Edited by mrvco

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Hi Jesus:

 

Using HQPlayer/NAA I'm only able to get to DSD using DoP with my W4S DAC2 DSDse. Here are the diagnostics and custom dac info:

 

USB output

DAC description: 32bit 384kHz DSD Interface 27f7:1301

 

Diagnostic information for this DAC

 

Wyred 4 Sound 32bit 384kHz DSD Interface at usb-ci_hdrc.1-1.1, high speed : USB Audio

 

Playback:

Status: Running

Interface = 2

Altset = 1

Packet Size = 448

Momentary freq = 352799 Hz (0x2c.1990)

Feedback Format = 16.16

Interface 2

Altset 1

Format: S32_LE

Channels: 2

Endpoint: 5 OUT (ASYNC)

Rates: 32000, 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000

Data packet interval: 125 us

access: RW_INTERLEAVED

format: S32_LE

subformat: STD

channels: 2

rate: 352800 (352800/1)

period_size: 35280

buffer_size: 70560

 

0) USB Audio Class Digital alsa audio output interface `hw:0,0'

- device name = 32bit 384kHz DSD Interface

- interface name = USB Audio

- usb audio class = 2 - isochronous asynchronous

- character device = /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p

- encoding formats = S32_LE

- monitor file = /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/sub0/hw_params

- stream file = /proc/asound/card0/stream0

 

Never had use DoP before! Help!

 

Bob

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Jesus,

 

Ok, I'm able to play a DSD file from Roon (no HQ Player for now). Here is the DAC diag info for a DSD64 file:

 

DAC description: xCORE USB Audio 2.0 20b1:3021

Diagnostic information for this DAC

XMOS xCORE USB Audio 2.0 at usb-ci_hdrc.1-1.1, high speed : USB Audio

 

Playback:

Status: Running

Interface = 1

Altset = 2

Packet Size = 392

Momentary freq = 352795 Hz (0x2c.1970)

Feedback Format = 16.16

Interface 1

Altset 1

Format: S24_3LE

Channels: 2

Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC)

Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000

Data packet interval: 125 us

Interface 1

Altset 2

Format: S32_LE

Channels: 2

Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC)

Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000

Data packet interval: 125 us

Interface 1

Altset 3

Format: SPECIAL

Channels: 2

Endpoint: 1 OUT (ASYNC)

Rates: 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000

Data packet interval: 125 us

 

 

EDIT: BAH, I just discovered the DoP check mark box in the Roon Ready settings for the mR. I'm now playing DSD64 and 128 files using DoP directly from Roon as well as through HQ Player. So is there a way (or a reason) to send Native DSD to the DAC? Thanks!

 

Not possible yet. As for the reason...some say you most have it, but only you can decide. FYI I'm just doing this fun:)

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Hi Jesus:

 

Using HQPlayer/NAA I'm only able to get to DSD using DoP with my W4S DAC2 DSDse. Here are the diagnostics and custom dac info:

 

USB output

DAC description: 32bit 384kHz DSD Interface 27f7:1301

 

Diagnostic information for this DAC

 

Wyred 4 Sound 32bit 384kHz DSD Interface at usb-ci_hdrc.1-1.1, high speed : USB Audio

 

Playback:

Status: Running

Interface = 2

Altset = 1

Packet Size = 448

Momentary freq = 352799 Hz (0x2c.1990)

Feedback Format = 16.16

Interface 2

Altset 1

Format: S32_LE

Channels: 2

Endpoint: 5 OUT (ASYNC)

Rates: 32000, 44100, 48000, 88200, 96000, 176400, 192000, 352800, 384000

Data packet interval: 125 us

access: RW_INTERLEAVED

format: S32_LE

subformat: STD

channels: 2

rate: 352800 (352800/1)

period_size: 35280

buffer_size: 70560

 

0) USB Audio Class Digital alsa audio output interface `hw:0,0'

- device name = 32bit 384kHz DSD Interface

- interface name = USB Audio

- usb audio class = 2 - isochronous asynchronous

- character device = /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p

- encoding formats = S32_LE

- monitor file = /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/sub0/hw_params

- stream file = /proc/asound/card0/stream0

 

Never had use DoP before! Help!

 

Bob

As-is it is not supported. W4S needs to update the firmware before we can get to work on it.

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Which DAC(s) have u tried it with?

It's hooked up to my NuPrime IDA-8 integrated modified by TDDS, doing DSD64 and DSD128, but am not getting DSD256 to work yet. It's in DLNA mode.

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