vortecjr Posted November 17, 2016 Author Share Posted November 17, 2016 Do you happen to know if this app will be made available for the Audiophile Jukebox / Sonic Transporter? Sent from my iPad using Computer Audiophile Yes. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
jrd1975 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Has anyone used an Orbiter in conjunction with the W4S RUR and Curious Cable loom? I currently have the RUR and CC hooked into my DAC from my MAC Mini. Was considering using the Sonicorbiter as an Roon endpoint and using the MAC as the core. Would be very interested to hear any listening impressions and if anyone had compared this setup to the microrendu (which is out of budget at the moment....) Link to comment
vortecjr Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 Has anyone used an Orbiter in conjunction with the W4S RUR and Curious Cable loom? I currently have the RUR and CC hooked into my DAC from my MAC Mini. Was considering using the Sonicorbiter as an Roon endpoint and using the MAC as the core. Would be very interested to hear any listening impressions and if anyone had compared this setup to the microrendu (which is out of budget at the moment....) It's sounds like a good plan to try them...especially if you have them. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
jrd1975 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 It's sounds like a good plan to try them...especially if you have them. Thanks! I don't have an Orbiter currently so was hoping to see if anyone could advise if I would get better results by cutting the mac mini out of the equation.... Link to comment
TomW Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Hi, my first post here. I have a Sonicorbiter SE that I'd now like to use with the iFi Micro iDSD Black Label, in my two channel setup (with Roon as source). The Sonicorbiter obviously has its own power supply but as far as I know the iFi DAC does not. Will the iFi DAC be able to draw power from the Sonicorbiter's USB out, and power itself in this way? Thanks in advance for any advice you can give. Tom Link to comment
vortecjr Posted February 8, 2017 Author Share Posted February 8, 2017 Hi, my first post here. I have a Sonicorbiter SE that I'd now like to use with the iFi Micro iDSD Black Label, in my two channel setup (with Roon as source). The Sonicorbiter obviously has its own power supply but as far as I know the iFi DAC does not. Will the iFi DAC be able to draw power from the Sonicorbiter's USB out, and power itself in this way? Thanks in advance for any advice you can give. Tom Yes and no issues doing it. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
TomW Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 That's great, thanks for the fast response! Tom Link to comment
thyname Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Happy Sonic Orbiter new owner here! Just got it yesterday. Using it with Roon to my headphones DAC/Amp (Schiit Bifrost / Asgard 2 Combo). I read all 17 pages here, and was wondering if you can help with some questions: 1 - Is there any benefit in SQ using Optical vs. USB? Schiit Bifrost accepts both. I don't have DSD files, and only use my CD library in Roon Core ripped in ALAC, as well as Tidal Hi-Fi tier. 2 - Any benefits of using another power supply rather than the standard one that comes with it? Ditto for the USB cable, as I use a cheap Monoprice USB cable. Thanks! Link to comment
earnmyturns Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Happy Sonic Orbiter new owner here! Just got it yesterday. Using it with Roon to my headphones DAC/Amp (Schiit Bifrost / Asgard 2 Combo). I read all 17 pages here, and was wondering if you can help with some questions: 1 - Is there any benefit in SQ using Optical vs. USB? Schiit Bifrost accepts both. I don't have DSD files, and only use my CD library in Roon Core ripped in ALAC, as well as Tidal Hi-Fi tier. 2 - Any benefits of using another power supply rather than the standard one that comes with it? Ditto for the USB cable, as I use a cheap Monoprice USB cable. Thanks! For 1, it's an easy test when I had the SE with the same amp&DAC as you, what definitely helped was a USB>SPDIF coax converter (Bel Canto mLink) that I happened to have around, but those are not cheap. As for a better power supply, once you start on that route, you might as well cut out the intermediate steps and go microRendu+LPS-1... Link to comment
thyname Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 For 1, it's an easy test when I had the SE with the same amp&DAC as you, what definitely helped was a USB>SPDIF coax converter (Bel Canto mLink) that I happened to have around, but those are not cheap. As for a better power supply, once you start on that route, you might as well cut out the intermediate steps and go microRendu+LPS-1... Thanks for the reply. On second thoughts, maybe I buy an Uptone Audio Regen and call it a day. Thoughts? Link to comment
earnmyturns Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Thanks for the reply. On second thoughts, maybe I buy an Uptone Audio Regen and call it a day. Thoughts? No experience with the Regen. The Bel Canto mLink I used provides (some) isolation and reclocking, but also moves the signal to coax. The general sentiment, including from Mike Moffat, is that other things being equal, you can get better results with S/PDIF coax than with USB (electrical noise) or optical (jitter). If I hadn't moved to microRendu+LPS-1, which I find very good, I'd be still using the mLink, or (for my Yggy) some USB>AES converter. Link to comment
vortecjr Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 The cool thing about the LPS-1 is that it works with both the Sonicorbiter SE and the microRendu. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
thyname Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 The cool thing about the LPS-1 is that it works with both the Sonicorbiter SE and the microRendu. What is LPS-1? I went ahead and ordered a Regen, used for $130 shipped, with a USB premium cable thrown in for free. Link to comment
vortecjr Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 What is LPS-1? I went ahead and ordered a Regen, used for $130 shipped, with a USB premium cable thrown in for free. It's Uptone's power supply. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
asdf1000 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 The unit is based on a Cubox and no changes have been made to the hardware except to toss the SMPS it came with and replace it with a nicer linear supply. Jesus R Hi JR, I'm looking at one of these for a 2nd system. Regarding your quote above, do you mean there is no power supply inside, i.e. there is no switching or no linear power supply inside. We need to add an external power supply, right? The HiFiBerry Digi+ option needs an end user DIY job in order to bypass the Raspberry Pi's 3.3V SMPS inside. I'm hoping none of this kind of stuff is required with the Sonicorbiter SE but also hoping there is no cheap power supply components inside, so that whatever clean power I choose will be the only thing powering this unit. Appreciate if you can clarify Cheers Link to comment
vortecjr Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 Hi JR, I'm looking at one of these for a 2nd system. Regarding your quote above, do you mean there is no power supply inside, i.e. there is no switching or no linear power supply inside. We need to add an external power supply, right? The HiFiBerry Digi+ option needs an end user DIY job in order to bypass the Raspberry Pi's 3.3V SMPS inside. I'm hoping none of this kind of stuff is required with the Sonicorbiter SE but also hoping there is no cheap power supply components inside, so that whatever clean power I choose will be the only thing powering this unit. Appreciate if you can clarify Cheers The power supply I'm talking about is external so nothing to bypass internally. Like I said the Sonicorbiter SE is based on a Cubox and no changes have been made to the hardware. If you want a custom designed main board then you need to buy our microRendu. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
asdf1000 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 The power supply I'm talking about is external so nothing to bypass internally. Like I said the Sonicorbiter SE is based on a Cubox and no changes have been made to the hardware. If you want a custom designed main board then you need to buy our microRendu. Thanks JR. I'm very familiar with both the mRendu and LPS-1 in my main system :-) As I mentioned I'm looking at this for a 2nd system, on a smaller budget. So am I correct that everything inside the sonicOrbiter SE is powered externally. The USB output, the Toslink output. etc. Everything is powered externally ? The reason I ask is because as I mentioned I am familiar with the Hifiberry and Raspberry Pi. Adding an external linear PSU to the Hifiberry Digi+ doesn't do much because the Pi3 still has a cheap SMPS inside it. So you need to solder a 5V header to the Hifiberry board to add your linear PSU. Sent from my Blackberry DTEK50 using Tapatalk Link to comment
vortecjr Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 Thanks JR. I'm very familiar with both the mRendu and LPS-1 in my main system :-) As I mentioned I'm looking at this for a 2nd system, on a smaller budget. So am I correct that everything inside the sonicOrbiter SE is powered externally. The USB output, the Toslink output. etc. Everything is powered externally ? The reason I ask is because as I mentioned I am familiar with the Hifiberry and Raspberry Pi. Adding an external linear PSU to the Hifiberry Digi+ doesn't do much because the Pi3 still has a cheap SMPS inside it. So you need to solder a 5V header to the Hifiberry board to add your linear PSU. Sent from my Blackberry DTEK50 using Tapatalk The SE was doing just fine with peoples main system before we made the microRendu;) The main point is that the OS is the same as the mciroRendu with some hardware specific tweaks. So it's a consolidated system you are already familiar with. The gear you mentioned is DIY and I have no clue what they are doing. You can only feed the SE external power. I recommend you use USB with the SE and optical as back up. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
asdf1000 Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 The SE was doing just fine with peoples main system before we made the microRendu;) The main point is that the OS is the same as the mciroRendu with some hardware specific tweaks. So it's a consolidated system you are already familiar with. The gear you mentioned is DIY and I have no clue what they are doing. You can only feed the SE external power. I recommend you use USB with the SE and optical as back up. It's showing as sold out, on both the SGC website and the Sonore website. Do you have a rough idea when it will be back in stock? Link to comment
vortecjr Posted February 19, 2017 Author Share Posted February 19, 2017 It's showing as sold out, on both the SGC website and the Sonore website. Do you have a rough idea when it will be back in stock? We should have them back in stock this week or next week. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
thyname Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 We should have them back in stock this week or next week. Do you think I would be OK with Sonicorbiter + UpTone Regen vs. mRendu? Link to comment
vortecjr Posted February 19, 2017 Author Share Posted February 19, 2017 Do you think I would be OK with Sonicorbiter + UpTone Regen vs. mRendu? The best way for me to answer that is simply to suggest that your budget dictate things. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
thyname Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 The best way for me to answer that is simply to suggest that your budget dictate things. Let's say the budget is not an issue. In other words, I can get the mRendu used at a price close to Sonicorbiter + Regen combo. Thoughts? Link to comment
vortecjr Posted February 19, 2017 Author Share Posted February 19, 2017 Let's say the budget is not an issue. In other words, I can get the mRendu used at a price close to Sonicorbiter + Regen combo. Thoughts? The microRendu has a built in USB regenerator circuit. I would get the microRendu. SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
thyname Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 The microRendu has a built in USB regenerator circuit. I would get the microRendu. Did it. Went with microRendu. Link to comment
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