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Differences in frequency response resulting of tilting are well characterised in this measurement:

 

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B&W 802D, vertical response family at 50",

normalized to response on tweeter axis,

from back to front: differences in response 15–5° above axis,

reference response, differences in response 5–15° below axis.

Read more at B&W 802D loudspeaker Measurements | Stereophile.com

"Science draws the wave, poetry fills it with water" Teixeira de Pascoaes

 

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The "timbres are closer to being correct"???

"It's a illusion", he says, and quite rightly for he is deluded.

R

"Science draws the wave, poetry fills it with water" Teixeira de Pascoaes

 

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Just FYI, tilting the speakers a small degree won't affect the timbre, but the timing. And getting the correct timing (= "group delay") is *vastly* more important than small timbre changes or even room treatment. Kal's adjustment changed tweeter-midrange timing around 2us, which our ears can certainly detect when we are very close to correct positioning.

 

Axiom05:

"...The vertical axis of the speakers was not correct, we were sitting too low, so I think with proper alignment there would be a bit more high frequency energy..."

Mac Mini 2012 with 2.3 GHz i5 CPU and 16GB RAM running newest OS10.9x and Signalyst HQ Player software (occasionally JRMC), ethernet to Cisco SG100-08 GigE switch, ethernet to SOtM SMS100 Miniserver in audio room, sending via short 1/2 meter AQ Cinnamon USB to Oppo 105D, feeding balanced outputs to 2x Bel Canto S300 amps which vertically biamp ATC SCM20SL speakers, 2x Velodyne DD12+ subs. Each side is mounted vertically on 3-tiered Sound Anchor ADJ2 stands: ATC (top), amp (middle), sub (bottom), Mogami, Koala, Nordost, Mosaic cables, split at the preamp outputs with splitters. All transducers are thoroughly and lovingly time aligned for the listening position.

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In my opinion, BnW's kevlar midrange drivers on the speaker's I've listened to produce a noticeable, unpleasant, "coloration" at the top of their passband. It will be interesting to see if, with the new cone material, they've gotten rid of it (even if the raggedness of the upper-midrange does make it more difficult to identify)

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800 D3' date=' on the right, its crossover, large black capacitors said to be [i']newly developed[/i]

 

Well they *Finally* decided to use ribbon inductors, only about 15 years late! And proper resistors too, heatsinked, but use giant fancy caps instead of cap arrays. Well, they are a bargain, they can't afford the very best crossover parts. Golly, I bet the bass is not shabby. B&W does magnificent bass drivers.

Mac Mini 2012 with 2.3 GHz i5 CPU and 16GB RAM running newest OS10.9x and Signalyst HQ Player software (occasionally JRMC), ethernet to Cisco SG100-08 GigE switch, ethernet to SOtM SMS100 Miniserver in audio room, sending via short 1/2 meter AQ Cinnamon USB to Oppo 105D, feeding balanced outputs to 2x Bel Canto S300 amps which vertically biamp ATC SCM20SL speakers, 2x Velodyne DD12+ subs. Each side is mounted vertically on 3-tiered Sound Anchor ADJ2 stands: ATC (top), amp (middle), sub (bottom), Mogami, Koala, Nordost, Mosaic cables, split at the preamp outputs with splitters. All transducers are thoroughly and lovingly time aligned for the listening position.

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Well they *Finally* decided to use ribbon inductors, only about 15 years late! And proper resistors too, heatsinked, but use giant fancy caps instead of cap arrays. Well, they are a bargain, they can't afford the very best crossover parts. Golly, I bet the bass is not shabby. B&W does magnificent bass drivers.

In my opinion, BnW had got the bass right in the sealed cabinet of the 801F but then change to bass reflex and ruined it.

 

R

"Science draws the wave, poetry fills it with water" Teixeira de Pascoaes

 

HQPlayer Desktop / Mac mini → Intona 7054 → RME ADI-2 DAC FS (DSD256)

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