KCJay Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Hi Miska, I did so and it did allow me to choose SDM in the main window, but it is still not upsampling DSD - just to 384 PCM. The setting on the left next to where I selected "SDM" is set to "Auto" - when I try to select in that window, I only get PCM settings (44.1, 88.2, etc) Link to comment
Miska Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 14 minutes ago, KCJay said: I did so and it did allow me to choose SDM in the main window, but it is still not upsampling DSD - just to 384 PCM. The setting on the left next to where I selected "SDM" is set to "Auto" - when I try to select in that window, I only get PCM settings (44.1, 88.2, etc) That looks strange... Are you on the latest 3.25.2 version? That could happen if the ASIO driver refuses to switch to DSD mode for some reason. Since you have also Roon running, assuming on the same computer. Have you disabled that same DAC as possible output zone in Roon? Because otherwise the two could conflict. Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
KCJay Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Hi Miska, I did so and rebooted HQP - now it works! Thanks so much for the fast support? Link to comment
KCJay Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Miska, spoke too soon. The file I was playing through Roon was a 44.1 file that played DSD256. It seems weird, but when I played a 88.2 file, it played fine, but now I cannot play any 96khz or 192khz files. It shows them playing in Roon when I click on the signal path, but in HQP, although it shows Roon and the play button is lit, HQP is kind of flickering in the top left corner. Link to comment
timtom Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Miska said: I would leave off the "Auto rate family" in this case. PCM settings look otherwise fine, but specifications say that maximum input word length to DAC2 HGC is 24-bit, so just in case you could select 24 as "DAC Bits". For SDM (DSD) settings, select 44.1k x64 as Bit rate limit. You could also try if 48k x64 works with the Benchmark DAC. I don't know... Later you could check which one you prefer ASDM7 or ASDM5 as modulator. Thanks Miska! Digital: 2010(!) Mac Mini Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz ; L2 Cache: 3 MB; Memory:8 GB > Roon > HQ Player (polysinc, NS9 upsampling PCM to 192 kHz) > Airport Extreme > Blue Jeans USB cable > Sonore MicroRendu (in NAA mode w/ Sonore DC-4 > LPS-1) > Benchmark HGC DAC2 > Naim Nait XS / Naim Flatcap XS > Naim Naic cables > Spendor A5s or Sennheiser HD600s. Link to comment
Miska Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 41 minutes ago, KCJay said: Miska, spoke too soon. The file I was playing through Roon was a 44.1 file that played DSD256. It seems weird, but when I played a 88.2 file, it played fine, but now I cannot play any 96khz or 192khz files. It shows them playing in Roon when I click on the signal path, but in HQP, although it shows Roon and the play button is lit, HQP is kind of flickering in the top left corner. That happens if you have "Auto rate family" enabled. Most DACs and/or ASIO drivers don't support 48k-base DSD rates. You need to uncheck the "Auto rate family" to allow HQPlayer to convert 48/96/192k content to 44.1k x256 rate... KCJay 1 Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
sixman Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 23 minutes ago, Miska said: That happens if you have "Auto rate family" enabled. Most DACs and/or ASIO drivers don't support 48k-base DSD rates. You need to uncheck the "Auto rate family" to allow HQPlayer to convert 48/96/192k content to 44.1k x256 rate... I had this problem even with "auto rate family" unchecked when upsampling to 44.1k x256. Sometimes would get pops between tracks of different base rates. If using Roon create a custom upsample and then upsample all 48 multiples in Roon to 24/352.8 before sending to HQP. That fixed all 48k (and multiples) to 44.1k dsd issues in hqp. Link to comment
KCJay Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Miska said: That happens if you have "Auto rate family" enabled. Most DACs and/or ASIO drivers don't support 48k-base DSD rates. You need to uncheck the "Auto rate family" to allow HQPlayer to convert 48/96/192k content to 44.1k x256 rate... Thanks, Miska, it worked! Link to comment
goldiver Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 8 hours ago, Miska said: There's no genre view in HQPlayer itself. I think some of the remote control applications may have such. Since coaxial S/PDIF is unidirectional, DAC properties cannot be detected automatically. This is one of the reasons to have those settings in HQPlayer, so one can tell what kind of properties the DAC has (maximum rate and word length). Thanks for taking the time to answer. Regarding the 'genre' question, I mean the ability to have a folder view. My library is grouped into a dozen different folders according to genre. I just want to be able to view a tree to those individual folders. Is this possible? Link to comment
Miska Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 11 minutes ago, goldiver said: Thanks for taking the time to answer. Regarding the 'genre' question, I mean the ability to have a folder view. My library is grouped into a dozen different folders according to genre. I just want to be able to view a tree to those individual folders. Is this possible? Depending on your OS you can do that with Windows File Explorer, or macOS Finder, or if you use Linux the one your desktop environment has, and then use drag-and-drop to HQPlayer window to queue content for playing. You can either drop folders or files. If you drop folders, entire subtree starting from that point is traversed. Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
goldiver Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Thanks again. I think HQPlayer has the best sound quality from all the Windows players I've tried. (Windows Server 2016 for me). I do suggest that in future versions a Genre heading be added to the library. Otherwise for large digital libraries it's just an endless sprawl of albums. Link to comment
bibo01 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 hour ago, goldiver said: Thanks again. I think HQPlayer has the best sound quality from all the Windows players I've tried. (Windows Server 2016 for me). I do suggest that in future versions a Genre heading be added to the library. Otherwise for large digital libraries it's just an endless sprawl of albums. As Miska mentioned previously, HQPDcontrol (an Android remote client) allows to have GENRE view, provided the albums are genre tagged. How curious are you? Link to comment
goldiver Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 That was really helpful - thanks so much. Got it working, very convenient. Link to comment
simonklp Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 On Sunday, December 16, 2018 at 10:18 PM, Miska said: Some component updates and couple of new tools. But the only new feature is that it is running as RAM image which also makes it compress poorly, that's part of the reason for bigger size. Hi @Miska, this update has not been stated on the "Main" page of your website. Is this RAM image only for Linux? Link to comment
Miska Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 11 hours ago, simonklp said: Hi @Miska, this update has not been stated on the "Main" page of your website. Is this RAM image only for Linux? I don't always list small updates like image rebuilds or such. I also recently rebuilt all networkaudiod packages for Debian. Yes, it is Linux... Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
Bob Stern Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Have you decided on upgrade pricing for HQP 4 Pro? p.s. It would be helpful for posters in this thread to agree on a shorter abbreviation for HQP 4 Pro HQPlayer (on 3.8 GHz 8-core i7 iMac 2020) > NAA (on 2012 Mac Mini i7) > RME ADI-2 v2 > Benchmark AHB-2 > Thiel 3.7 Link to comment
Bob Stern Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Can HQP 4 Pro on a Mac capture audio from another application such as a web browser or the app from a streaming service such as Idagio or Qobuz? I realize this can be accomplished using Soundflower to create a virtual audio device interposed between the source app and HQP, but Soundflower has been unstable on Macs for the last several versions of OS X. HQPlayer (on 3.8 GHz 8-core i7 iMac 2020) > NAA (on 2012 Mac Mini i7) > RME ADI-2 v2 > Benchmark AHB-2 > Thiel 3.7 Link to comment
rickca Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 17 minutes ago, Bob Stern said: Have you decided on upgrade pricing for HQP 4 Pro? I must have missed the announcement. What is HQP 4 Pro and where can I read about it? Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
arglebargle Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 I doubt I would convert my whole library to DSD256 but I'm very excited by the possibilities of "offline" upsampling using HQP4. A quick test shows that its possible to upsample to filters my current machine is not capable of in realtime. Playing .dsf generated with non-2s xtr filters, and using only 10-15% CPU...amazing. I could also see using this to change rate families, or perhaps some kind of first-stage upsampling where further realtime is done by HQPlayer Embedded, etc. What's HQPlayer4 Pro you say? Clearly you don't follow Signalyst on Twitter or Facebook. Hopefully some intrepid forum member will make a dedicated thread. Link to comment
rickca Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, arglebargle said: Clearly you don't follow Signalyst on Twitter or Facebook. Thanks. No I don't use social media at all. Thanks for the link. Pareto Audio AMD 7700 Server --> Berkeley Alpha USB --> Jeff Rowland Aeris --> Jeff Rowland 625 S2 --> Focal Utopia 3 Diablos with 2 x Focal Electra SW 1000 BE subs i7-6700K/Windows 10 --> EVGA Nu Audio Card --> Focal CMS50's Link to comment
Bob Stern Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 I'm alerted within 24 hours of new releases of HQP by using the Visual Ping service to monitor changes to the web page <http://www.signalyst.com/index.html> Visual Ping is free for checking 1 or 2 websites daily, $4/mo to check 10 websites daily, etc. It is based in Canada. https://visualping.io/pricing HQPlayer (on 3.8 GHz 8-core i7 iMac 2020) > NAA (on 2012 Mac Mini i7) > RME ADI-2 v2 > Benchmark AHB-2 > Thiel 3.7 Link to comment
Bob Stern Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 I would never use Facebook. They undermine democracy and support murderous attacks worldwide. Also, they promote inequality by allowing employers, banks, etc to selectively solicit employees, grant home loans, etc based on ethnicity, neighborhood, etc. HQPlayer (on 3.8 GHz 8-core i7 iMac 2020) > NAA (on 2012 Mac Mini i7) > RME ADI-2 v2 > Benchmark AHB-2 > Thiel 3.7 Link to comment
Bob Stern Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 I just checked HQP's Twitter site (even though I don’t have a Twitter account). Its brief announcement of HQP 4 Pro does not mention receiving input from an audio device. I discovered the latter from the PDF user guide included with the beta download. HQPlayer (on 3.8 GHz 8-core i7 iMac 2020) > NAA (on 2012 Mac Mini i7) > RME ADI-2 v2 > Benchmark AHB-2 > Thiel 3.7 Link to comment
arglebargle Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Sorry. My comment was meant to be a general statement, not a response to anyone in particular. Link to comment
LoryWiv Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 The currently available information on Signalyst site about HQPlayer 4 Pro notes it's use as a mastering, post-production tool. Is it aexpected to also confer advantages over HQPlayer Desktop for more common consumer use as a multi-format, high quality, upsampling audio file player? AnotherSpin 1 Desktop: HQ Player --> Singxer SU-1 --> Matrix X-Sabre Pro --> McChanson SuperSilver UltimatE Headphones: Audeze MM-500, Meze Audio Elite, Focal Utopia 2022, Focal Bathys (Wireless) Portable Gear: Hiby RS6, xDuoo XD05 Bal 2, FiiO BTR7, Creative BT-W5, FiiTii HiFiDots TWS Nearfield Active Speakers: Audioengine HD3 Power Conditioning: Furman Elite-15 PFi Link to comment
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