HQ Player

[Miska]

6 hours ago, Hammer said:

Hi, here is the amazon link.  I set it up and can confirm DSD works (via i2s) and so it seems like good value.  But to my ears, it’s much better to have HQPlayer in the chain and so if a Pi NAA can play to it directly (I tried and it does not) that would be awesome!  Thanks.

 

https://www.amazon.com/WINGONEER-WX4000-Multifunction-Expansion-Raspberry/dp/B06XCDGS1B/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1513216305&sr=8-16&keywords=Pi+dac

 

I found that, but not details on how it is supposed to be configured... I couldn't find manufacturer's documentation.

 

[Hammer]

1 hour ago, Miska said:

 

I found that, but not details on how it is supposed to be configured... I couldn't find manufacturer's documentation.

 

 

I think this is the manufacturer website...

 

http://www.suptronics.com/miniPCkits/x4000-software.html

 

I can help to look...if you tell me what to look for...

[Hammer]

I also found some postings about this DAC on diyaudio and it looks like the rpi-dac (i2s) driver should be used and 

 

dtoverlay=simple-bclk-64fs

should be added to /boot/config.txt

 

not sure if this is helpful...

[Outlaw]

Running HQPlayer and Roon on main PC ,only used as music server.Also running nuc as a NAA device.My dac requires its own drivers.Do I need to install driver only on NAA  or both ? Thanks

[tboooe]

1 hour ago, Outlaw said:

Running HQPlayer and Roon on main PC ,only used as music server.Also running nuc as a NAA device.My dac requires its own drivers.Do I need to install driver only on NAA  or both ? Thanks

Install drivers on NAA machine.

[Miska]

9 hours ago, Hammer said:

I also found some postings about this DAC on diyaudio and it looks like the rpi-dac (i2s) driver should be used and 

 

dtoverlay=simple-bclk-64fs

should be added to /boot/config.txt

 

not sure if this is helpful...

 

OK, that overlay is not found on my RPi3 images, but if you can find some image where that stuff is supported (maybe DietPi?) then things should work. Overall, if you find Stretch-based OS with support for that I2S configuration, then networkaudiod should work without much trouble.

 

[Miska]

6 hours ago, Outlaw said:

Running HQPlayer and Roon on main PC ,only used as music server.Also running nuc as a NAA device.My dac requires its own drivers.Do I need to install driver only on NAA  or both ? Thanks

 

What DAC do you have?

[Hammer]

1 hour ago, Miska said:

 

OK, that overlay is not found on my RPi3 images, but if you can find some image where that stuff is supported (maybe DietPi?) then things should work. Overall, if you find Stretch-based OS with support for that I2S configuration, then networkaudiod should work without much trouble.

 

PCM works in Ropieee and Dietpi.  In Dietpi, I can connect either using RoonBridge or NAA.  The only software where DSD also works is moode.  In Dietpi, the DAC is connect via HDMI and I think DSD only works via i2s.  Ropieee connects via i2s, and DSD64 shows up in Roon in yellow which means while the format is supported, additional configuration is needed before it will work. 

 

Hope this is helpful - would be great for both PCM and DSD to work in the NAA pi image.  Thanks you!

[Outlaw]

11 hours ago, Miska said:

 

What DAC do you have?

It’s a Moon 280d DSD with built in Mind  streamer.

[Yviena]

Hmm is the closed form filter a good choice for a oversampling  R2R DAC?

i noticed that running it at 352-384khz bypasses the internal filter/oversampling.

The DAC in question is soekris dac 1541.

 

[Miska]

22 hours ago, Outlaw said:

It’s a Moon 280d DSD with built in Mind  streamer.

 

If someone could send me some data from Linux on that device, it may be possible to make it work with Linux too (over USB).

 

[Miska]

4 hours ago, Yviena said:

Hmm is the closed form filter a good choice for a oversampling  R2R DAC?

i noticed that running it at 352-384khz bypasses the internal filter/oversampling.

The DAC in question is soekris dac 1541.

 

Yes, at least with Metrum DAC it seems to work nicely.

 

[KCJay]

I just bought a Pro-ject S2 DAC and am setting it up now via USB on a Windows 10 PC.  I have a couple questions.  

 

I want to upsample everything to DSD, but not exactly sure what settings I need in HQ Player.  I tried using the same settings that I used with my Marantz HD-DAC1, but am only getting 384khz PCM.  If anyone has setup one of these DAC's in Windows 10 with ROON and HQ Player, I sure would appreciate your advice.

 

In addition, when I bring up HQ Player on my UHD TV, the settings box is very tiny and unreadable.  I can only read it when I reduce the resolution.  Any advice?

 

Thanks a lot for any help!

[RamUwe]

How to force playing 48k x512? My iFi Micro DSD BL only plays 44.1k x512 

[Miska]

1 hour ago, RamUwe said:

How to force playing 48k x512? My iFi Micro DSD BL only plays 44.1k x512 

 

You need to use Linux for that. 44.1k x512 is unfortunately an artificial limitation of the ASIO driver.

 

[RamUwe]

29 minutes ago, Miska said:

 

You need to use Linux for that. 44.1k x512 is unfortunately an artificial limitation of the ASIO driver.

 

 

Thanks Miska! I thought Linux can only handle DSD via DoP. So there is a limitation to DSD265.

[Miska]

1 hour ago, RamUwe said:

Thanks Miska! I thought Linux can only handle DSD via DoP. So there is a limitation to DSD265.

 

No, there's a native DSD support, no need for DoP.

 

[RamUwe]

On 18.12.2017 at 1:12 PM, Miska said:

 

You need to use Linux for that. 44.1k x512 is unfortunately an artificial limitation of the ASIO driver.

 

 

ASIO driver in general or only the ASIO driver of the iFi Micro iDSD? Otherwise is there any way to get 48k x512 on win?

 

I‘ve tested 48k x512 on latest Ubuntu. It sounds great but working with it is imo pain in the ass. No well working remote access neither with vnc nor with rdp. I‘m missing some programs like dbpoweramp, foobar, lossless audiochecker e.g. 

[tboooe]

10 minutes ago, RamUwe said:

 

ASIO driver in general or only the ASIO driver of the iFi Micro iDSD? Otherwise is there any way to get 48k x512 on win?

 

I‘ve tested 48k x512 on latest Ubuntu. It sounds great but working with it is imo pain in the ass. No well working remote access neither with vnc nor with rdp. I‘m missing some programs like dbpoweramp, foobar, lossless audiochecker e.g. 

Just curious, do you have a lot of 48 based music?  I have very few albums at either 48 or 96 or are you converting 44.1 music to 48x512?

[Miska]

41 minutes ago, RamUwe said:

ASIO driver in general or only the ASIO driver of the iFi Micro iDSD? Otherwise is there any way to get 48k x512 on win?

 

Thesycon's ASIO driver that is used by most DACs that utilize XMOS USB implementation. Some other drivers have similar limitations on Windows too. Devices using Amanero USB implementation and exaSound don't have such limitations. If you use Linux-based NAA, for example using the bootable images I provide, you can get around that limitation and can keep running HQPlayer on Windows.

 

But certainly easiest is just let HQPlayer convert to fixed 44.1k x512 output rate regardless of source.

 

[RamUwe]

11 hours ago, tboooe said:

Just curious, do you have a lot of 48 based music?  I have very few albums at either 48 or 96 or are you converting 44.1 music to 48x512?

 

Just converting!

 

10 hours ago, Miska said:

 

Thesycon's ASIO driver that is used by most DACs that utilize XMOS USB implementation. Some other drivers have similar limitations on Windows too. Devices using Amanero USB implementation and exaSound don't have such limitations. If you use Linux-based NAA, for example using the bootable images I provide, you can get around that limitation and can keep running HQPlayer on Windows.

 

But certainly easiest is just let HQPlayer convert to fixed 44.1k x512 output rate regardless of source.

 

 

Thanks, Miska, for your reply. Has the T+A DAC 8 DSD a XMOS or an Amanero USB implementation?

[Miska]

5 minutes ago, RamUwe said:

Thanks, Miska, for your reply. Has the T+A DAC 8 DSD a XMOS or an Amanero USB implementation?

 

Amanero, so it has no trouble doing DSD both 44.1 and 48 based...

 

[Dr Tone]

@Miska Any insight on the best PCM bit depth setting for the Mirus Pro?  I'm using the ASIO driver so 32bit is an option but not sure if that would the right choice.  From it's specs, I assume it's getting pretty close to 24bits of resolution.  Thoughts?

[Miska]

7 hours ago, Dr Tone said:

@Miska Any insight on the best PCM bit depth setting for the Mirus Pro?  I'm using the ASIO driver so 32bit is an option but not sure if that would the right choice.  From it's specs, I assume it's getting pretty close to 24bits of resolution.  Thoughts?

 

It should be fine with "Default"...

[oilpaint]

A couple questions on volume control in HQP.

 

After getting clipping I have the max Vol set at -10 and no clipping - all is good. However it does mean that I have to turn the volume up on my amp (Devialet) higher then when I had the max Vol set at -3. After setting the min and max vol (to -10) controls the vol dial landed about 2:00 - should I move this to the max, which is about 6:00 on the dial? I guess I am asking do I only set the vol min and maxes and leave the dial alone?