wgscott Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Well? (Notice that the poll does not ask about gender. In puritan America, it seems like people use the word "gender" when they mean "sex." A eukaryotic organism may be male or female, or perhaps some intermediate sex form, but does not have a "gender," which is a linguistic term, i.e., grammar : one of the categories (masculine, feminine, and neuter) into which words (such as nouns, adjectives, and pronouns) are divided in many languages). Link to comment
elcorso Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Well? (Notice that the poll does not ask about gender. In puritan America, it seems like people use the word "gender" when they mean "sex." A eukaryotic organism may be male or female, or perhaps some intermediate sex form, but does not have a "gender," which is a linguistic term, i.e., grammar : one of the categories (masculine, feminine, and neuter) into which words (such as nouns, adjectives, and pronouns) are divided in many languages). Ha, ha, ha... I guess you read some posts in the thread The Death of the Home Stereo System. But is not only "puritan America", but "puritan World"! Roch Link to comment
goldsdad Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Hermaphrodites are shunned? Link to comment
christopher3393 Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Hermaphrodites are shunned? Yes, in order to be fully inclusive, poll might need additional options. Not sure what the most appropriate wording would be, but from a simple logical perspective one could obviously add "both A + B" and "neither A nor B". Then after these one would be left to contemplate the possible meaning of "none of the above", which could be simply an illogical option, or it could be construed as an affirmation of gender nihilism (or should I say "sex" or "sexual" nihilism?) or a critique of any form of essentialism.... Link to comment
Audio_ELF Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 And I wanted to reply "Yes please!" :-) PS. Female but also a small furry creature from Alpha Centuri. PPS. But from the time of REAL small furry creatures from Alpha Centuri. Eloise --- ...in my opinion / experience... While I agree "Everything may matter" working out what actually affects the sound is a trickier thing. And I agree "Trust your ears" but equally don't allow them to fool you - trust them with a bit of skepticism. keep your mind open... But mind your brain doesn't fall out. Link to comment
coot Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 And here I thought the brief poll question was going to be something about "What music do you listen to while doing it?". Yes, I am that shallow. Link to comment
NOMBEDES Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 And here I thought the brief poll question was going to be something about "What music do you listen to while doing it?". Yes, I am that shallow. Bridge of Sighs ~ Robin Trower In any dispute the intensity of feeling is inversely proportional to the value of the issues at stake ~ Sayre's Law Link to comment
souptin Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 And I wanted to reply "Yes please!" :-) Must be British humour or something - I had the same thought. Can't speak for America, but over here in the civilizzzzed UK the main reason for replacing 'sex' with 'gender' on a form wouldn't be puritanical, it would be to avoid puerile replies Meanwhile across Channel and the North Sea, our ultra sophisticated European neighbours probably have so many different words for describing their adventurous and impressive sex lives that the problem doesn't arise. Link to comment
Audio_ELF Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Meanwhile across Channel and the North Sea, our ultra sophisticated European neighbours probably have so many different words for describing their adventurous and impressive sex lives that the problem doesn't arise. I'm sorry Mr Souptin... But even I draw the line at describing my adventurous and impressive sex life here!! Eloise Eloise --- ...in my opinion / experience... While I agree "Everything may matter" working out what actually affects the sound is a trickier thing. And I agree "Trust your ears" but equally don't allow them to fool you - trust them with a bit of skepticism. keep your mind open... But mind your brain doesn't fall out. Link to comment
Audio_ELF Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Hmmmm... Okay naughty response... Has anyone done a double blind test to check (their gender) PS OED of gender states: 1 [mass noun] the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones):traditional concepts of gender [count noun] the members of one or other sex: differences between the genders are encouraged from an early age Eloise --- ...in my opinion / experience... While I agree "Everything may matter" working out what actually affects the sound is a trickier thing. And I agree "Trust your ears" but equally don't allow them to fool you - trust them with a bit of skepticism. keep your mind open... But mind your brain doesn't fall out. Link to comment
DigiPete Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Hmmmm... Okay naughty response... The Danish reply would be along the lines: Slightly dominant with a kind but firm grip and preference for very linear (canes & riding whips) Oh, and I'm a Hooloovoo, also known as a super-intelligent shade of the colour blue. Promise Pegasus2 R6 12TB -> Thunderbolt2 -> MacBook Pro M1 Pro -> Motu 8D -> AES/EBU -> Main: Genelec 5 x 8260A + 2 x 8250 + 2 x 8330 + 7271A sub Boat: Genelec 8010 + 5040 sub Hifiman Sundara, Sennheiser PXC 550 II Blog: “Confessions of a DigiPhile” Link to comment
wgscott Posted October 13, 2013 Author Share Posted October 13, 2013 Hermaphrodites are shunned? Why do you think "none of the above" currently outnumbers women 3 to 2? Link to comment
wgscott Posted October 13, 2013 Author Share Posted October 13, 2013 Yes, in order to be fully inclusive, poll might need additional options. Not sure what the most appropriate wording would be "none of the above" should be "all of the above" for a genuine hermaphrodite Link to comment
Audio_ELF Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 I'm not sure this poll went the way you hoped... Actually maybe it did :-) Eloise --- ...in my opinion / experience... While I agree "Everything may matter" working out what actually affects the sound is a trickier thing. And I agree "Trust your ears" but equally don't allow them to fool you - trust them with a bit of skepticism. keep your mind open... But mind your brain doesn't fall out. Link to comment
wgscott Posted October 14, 2013 Author Share Posted October 14, 2013 I wanted to get a sense for how skewed the hobby is toward male dominance. It is quite extreme. Link to comment
esldude Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 And here I thought the brief poll question was going to be something about "What music do you listen to while doing it?". Yes, I am that shallow. Well, Jimi Hendrix doing Dylan songs worked pretty well for me in those circumstances. Seemed wrong at first suggestion, but she always did dig it. Worked with 8-track, worked with cassette, even with FM, worked with CD, and CA too! And always keep in mind: Cognitive biases, like seeing optical illusions are a sign of a normally functioning brain. We all have them, it’s nothing to be ashamed about, but it is something that affects our objective evaluation of reality. Link to comment
esldude Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Hmmmm... Okay naughty response... Has anyone done a double blind test to check (their gender) PS OED of gender states: Does blind drunk count? If it does, I can report positive correlations. Along with a couple of other drugged states. And always keep in mind: Cognitive biases, like seeing optical illusions are a sign of a normally functioning brain. We all have them, it’s nothing to be ashamed about, but it is something that affects our objective evaluation of reality. Link to comment
Boris75 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 (Notice that the poll does not ask about gender. In puritan America, it seems like people use the word "gender" when they mean "sex." A eukaryotic organism may be male or female, or perhaps some intermediate sex form, but does not have a "gender," which is a linguistic term, i.e., grammar : one of the categories (masculine, feminine, and neuter) into which words (such as nouns, adjectives, and pronouns) are divided in many languages). It is nice to see the words "sex" and "gender" used properly, for once. Many thanks. Link to comment
Audio_ELF Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 It is nice to see the words "sex" and "gender" used properly, for once. Many thanks. I would question the term "properly" here. Language is a constantly evolving thing - what is important is not how a word was originally defined, but how it is commonly used. Even the Oxford English Dictionary - the guardians of proper English (as opposed to that fake American English) recognise that! Eloise Eloise --- ...in my opinion / experience... While I agree "Everything may matter" working out what actually affects the sound is a trickier thing. And I agree "Trust your ears" but equally don't allow them to fool you - trust them with a bit of skepticism. keep your mind open... But mind your brain doesn't fall out. Link to comment
souptin Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 G'aun yerself, Audio_Elf! You learn these Yanks guid an' proper aboot how tae write! It's no their lingo onyways. "Rest room" my arse! Link to comment
alfe Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I'm surprised how people are sensitive to music, so finally listening have nothing to do with the ears. Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Rarely does a thread title illicit so much excitement from me, and then let me down just as much when I read the thread... No electron left behind. Link to comment
thesurfingalien Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Hi All, In Dutch (my native language) the question: Gender (male / female): would be translated as: Geslacht (man / vrouw): The word "geslacht" can also be translated as "butchered" or "slaughtered". So, some people would, on paper forms and when the question was not really relevant, write "nog niet" (= not yet) Peter “We are the Audiodrones. Lower your skepticism and surrender your wallets. We will add your cash and savings to our own. Your mindset will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.” - (Quote from Star Trek: The Audiophile Generation) Link to comment
wgscott Posted October 16, 2013 Author Share Posted October 16, 2013 Rarely does a thread title illicit so much excitement from me, and then let me down just as much when I read the thread... I thought all of mine shared this property. Link to comment
thesurfingalien Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Hmmmm... Okay naughty response... Has anyone done a double blind test to check (their gender) PS OED of gender states: Hi Eloise, In The Netherlands this is a standard test that, at least by males, is performed multiple times a day. We use the expression "I am going to check if I am still a boy" to indicate the need to urinate. However, I am quite sure this test is a single-blind as it is quite uncommon for males, unlike females, to join each other when going to the bathroom. Unless, of course, you consider having both eyes closed during the "test". Regards, Peter “We are the Audiodrones. Lower your skepticism and surrender your wallets. We will add your cash and savings to our own. Your mindset will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.” - (Quote from Star Trek: The Audiophile Generation) Link to comment
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