Qobuz removed all the Rhino/Warner/Atlantic material

[CatManDo]

Last month I downloaded some Atlantic albums from Charles Mingus, Modern Jazz Quartet and Ornette Coleman in 24/192, and now all those albums are gone on Qobuz ...

 

Other albums from those labels that I had put in my Qobuz Favourites list are no longer there, the links that I bookmarked in my browser lead to an error message.

 

The albums are still available on HDtracks, but still that's quite a step back in the availability of hi-rez downloads.

[regnaD kciN]

That's one thing that has had me worried about the move to downloads: the eventual development of monopolies through each label having only one allowed download source. It was probably bound to happen eventually. I just hope we won't see too many cases of a label aligning itself with a site that restricts itself from distributing content to large portions of the world.

[Musicophile]

That's one thing that has had me worried about the move to downloads: the eventual development of monopolies through each label having only one allowed download source. It was probably bound to happen eventually. I just hope we won't see too many cases of a label aligning itself with a site that restricts itself from distributing content to large portions of the world.

Agree. You'd have thought that the industry has learned the lesson from the iTunes store: make music available in an easy way everywhere, and people will go there. But many of the recent issues with downloads only being available in some regions makes me think record companies still live way too much in the past.

[rwwjr44]

Does anyone know why the titles were removed?

[AudioDoctor]

Does anyone know why the titles were removed?

 

This may have something to do with it...

 

AllThingsD: All three music labels on board for Apple | TUAW - The Unofficial Apple Weblog

 

http://www.tuaw.com/2013/06/06/reuters-apple-to-show-off-iradio-streaming-service-next-week/

[CatManDo]

I checked again in more detail. Warner is still present on their site with lots of albums, but all the Atlantic classic jazz titles previously available in hi-rez are gone

 

Warner Bros. - Télécharger et écouter les albums.

 

Almost all the albums now are in CD quality only. Using the "Studio Master Garantie" search filter, only 26 titles remain:

 

Warner Bros. - Télécharger et écouter les albums.

 

For example, I had bought the Don Cherry "Hear and Now" album in 24/192. That entry is now gone, but an older offering of the same album (CD quality only) is still online:

 

Hear & Now | Don Cherry - Télécharger et écouter l'album

[firedog]

I checked again in more detail. Warner is still present on their site with lots of albums, but all the Atlantic classic jazz titles previously available in hi-rez are gone

 

Warner Bros. - Télécharger et écouter les albums.

 

 

Almost all the albums now are in CD quality only. Using the "Studio Master Garantie" search filter, only 26 titles remain:

 

Warner Bros. - Télécharger et écouter les albums.

 

For example, I had bought the Don Cherry "Hear and Now" album in 24/192. That entry is now gone, but an older offering of the same album (CD quality only) is still online:

 

Hear & Now | Don Cherry - Télécharger et écouter l'album

 

Maybe it is simply the number of licenses they bought for those downloads was used up an they didn't/haven't bought more?

[fredhammersmith2]

Maybe it is simply the number of licenses they bought for those downloads was used up an they didn't/haven't bought more?

 

May have to do with quality control? Have you write them about it?

[CatManDo]

I sent them a message but haven't received an answer yet.

 

I don't think there is anything wrong with the files, they are the same as on HDtracks. The one's I've heard sound very good (I compared them to CD releases of the same albums), and if there was a technical problem, not all albums would be affected.

[chriss71]

Maybe this is the key to answer:

 

 

From the Modern Jazz Quartet - the Comedy 1st Track - Spanish Steps

 

Ehhm, yeah, I know Robert, I see this completly wrong....

[Robert Hutton]

Maybe this is the key to answer:

 

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From the Modern Jazz Quartet - the Comedy 1st Track - Spanish Steps

 

Ehhm, yeah, I know Robert, I see this completly wrong....

 

Sorry not to rise to the bait, Chris, but I don't go for bullies.

 

The other possibility, for conspiracy theorists, is that because Qobuz have recently started offering bootlegs of some of this material (the CD-quality MJQ European Concert is an example of this), Warners yanked back the license.

 

Qobuz, due to differing copyright laws in Europe, have been playing in the muddy waters of 'public domain' where neither the artist or the rights owning label get a red cent. Of course, these companies offering 'public domain' material can never have a master tape or anything close to it. But it doesn't stop them from selling the material.

[CatManDo]

Could be, but I've never seen a CD store being boycotted by the official labels because it was also selling public domain reissues. The european Amazon stores sell both.

[chriss71]

@Robert: My graph is a HDTracks Download...

 

Here we go: https://www.hdtracks.com/index.php?file=catalogdetail&valbum_code=HX603497937004

[Julf]

Sorry not to rise to the bait, Chris, but I don't go for bullies.

 

Pot... Kettle... Black?

[Robert Hutton]

Pot... Kettle... Black?

 

Is there a point relevant to this topic you and Chris want to make, or maybe you two should take the tag team to a thread where you can make a contribution (if there is one)?

[chriss71]

Is there a point relevant to this topic you and Chris want to make..

 

Not sure, but the only point relevant YOU make, is that all the HDTracks Download a superior because of 24bit (who needs superior mastering, who need frequency content above 22kHz, we don't need this). Everything from HDTracks is superior. POINT!

[rwwjr44]

Guys, please take your bickering elsewhere.

[Julf]

Is there a point relevant to this topic you and Chris want to make?

 

I think the point Chris made was pretty relevant to the topic.

[chriss71]

@Julf: Don't think so, because of the post from @rwwjr44. This was my last post in this thread... So, feel free...

[Robert Hutton]

Not sure, but the only point relevant YOU make, is that all the HDTracks Download a superior because of 24bit (who needs superior mastering, who need frequency content above 22kHz, we don't need this). Everything from HDTracks is superior. POINT!

 

This is so juvenile I don't know where to begin.

 

Keep on trollin'.....

[Julf]

This is so juvenile I don't know where to begin.

 

Oooh... No, no, I can't go there...

[Ralf Hutter]

@ the usual suspects -

 

I don't know about other folks, but I sure wish you'd stop cluttering up multiple threads with your bickering.

 

Thanks!

[Snowmonkey]

Yeah, it's kind of like having neighbours who have noisy domestic disputes whenever you want to sit down and read the paper.

[fredhammersmith2]

Yeah, it's kind of like having neighbours who have noisy domestic disputes whenever you want to sit down and read the paper.

 

yep, risk taken with unmoderated forums.

[Boris75]

Pardon me, but the heated discussion lost me regarding the point made by the FFT diagrams: do they say that the HD version of this album looks all right or the opposite? Casually they look OK to me with no sharp cut-off, but then I could not see the chart very well on my monitor.