The Computer Audiophile Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Hey Guys - I should be receiving this tiny 4"x4" computer Friday. It won't be a C.A.P.S. server just yet because there are a few things that need to be figured out, mainly a fanless design. But, this thing could be very cool for many music server purposes in the future. It's powerful and tiny. The version I'm getting had wired Ethernet. There is another version with wireless and in place of the Ethernet port is a Thunderbolt port. Introducing Intel's Next Unit of Computing Kit DC3217IYE Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
jtwrace Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 It reminds me of the Samsung Chromebox W10 NUC i7 (Gen 10) > Roon (Audiolense FIR) > Motu UltraLite mk5 > (4) Hypex NCore NC502MP > JBL M2 Master Reference +4 subs Watch my Podcast https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXMw_bZWBMtRWNJQfTJ38kA/videos Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 Very much so in the looks. The NUC is great because it supports any operating system that runs on the Intel platform. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 Forgot to add that I ordered mine for $313. It ships without memory (up to 16GB) or storage. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
voxel Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 With 17W TDP it would be practical to run with fanless cooler. Thanks for the info! Link to comment
obt_man Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Chris, thanks for letting us know. This indeed a very cool barebone, and frankly I did not see anything as powerful as this in such a small case. It does have a fan, so I will be interested to see if it will be an issue for a music server. Also, it includes an excellent Intel 4000 graphics, so this will certainly appeal to those who want an HTPC including HD movies capabilities. Chris, please let us know your impressions if you happen to make it a music server. Main system: Music Server (Win 7/64+Foobar+JPlay) -> Furutech GT2 USB Cable -> Audiolab M-DAC -> Plinius 9200 (Chord Anthem interconnects) -> ATC SCM 40 w/Kimber Kable 8TC speaker cables Link to comment
Matias Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 I currently use a Zotac NANO AD10 with 120Gb SSD and external eSata 2Tb HDD. Looks the same, although way less powerful than an i3. 1. WiiM Pro - Mola Mola Makua - Apollon NCx500+SS2590 - March Audio Sointuva AWG 2. LG 77C1 - Marantz SR7005 - Apollon NC502MP+NC252MP - Monitor Audio PL100+PLC150+C265 - SVS SB-3000 3. PC - RME ADI-2 DAC FS - Neumann KH 80 DSP 4. Phone - Tanchjim Space - Truthear Zero Red 5. PC - Keysion ES2981 - Truthear Zero Red Link to comment
rogelio Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Forgot to add that I ordered mine for $313. It ships without memory (up to 16GB) or storage. Where were you able to order the unit? I can't seem to find any retailers with it in stock. Link to comment
4est Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Very much so in the looks. The NUC is great because it supports any operating system that runs on the Intel platform. I do not see where it says that it will run Mac OSX. How do they "support" it without Apple's approval, or do they have it? From what I gather, the biggest issue with Hackintoshs are the updates being a PITA. Forrest: Win10 i9 9900KS/GTX1060 HQPlayer4>Win10 NAA DSD>Pavel's DSC2.6>Bent Audio TAP> Parasound JC1>"Naked" Quad ESL63/Tannoy PS350B subs<100Hz Link to comment
ItemAudio Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 We've been discussing the suitability of this device on PinkFish: it has potential to be a really interesting combination of low overhead and big resource. Fundamentally crippled by the single-rail input and a few other corner-cuts – and a bit expensive, maybe – but I'm looking forward to playing with it! Who knows – perhaps it's the Next Unit of Audiophile Computing?! Link to comment
Paul R Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 (grin) I was just thinking the thing looks like a Black Sheep Mac Mini - though it only has an i3 in it instead of an i5 or i7. -Paul I do not see where it says that it will run Mac OSX. How do they "support" it without Apple's approval, or do they have it? From what I gather, the biggest issue with Hackintoshs are the updates being a PITA. Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat DAC. Robert A. Heinlein Link to comment
Audio_ELF Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Now we just need SotM to produce a Mini PCI version of the USB card... Eloise --- ...in my opinion / experience... While I agree "Everything may matter" working out what actually affects the sound is a trickier thing. And I agree "Trust your ears" but equally don't allow them to fool you - trust them with a bit of skepticism. keep your mind open... But mind your brain doesn't fall out. Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 Now we just need SotM to produce a Mini PCI version of the USB card... I asked a couple months ago :~) Something like this would be cool but maybe without the bulk. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
ItemAudio Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I asked a couple months ago :~) Something like this would be cool but maybe without the bulk. [ATTACH=CONFIG]2783[/ATTACH] I don't mind the bulk: you'd probably need that for the passive cooling anyhow . . . Link to comment
Ralf Hutter Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Review of the wireless/Thunderbolt version of the NUC here: Intel Next Unit of Computing Kit DC3217BY | silentpcreview.com Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted November 29, 2012 Author Share Posted November 29, 2012 Got my NUC this afternoon. Check out this video. A cool surprise awaits those opening the box. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
hirescurmudgeon Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 photos: Intel NUC Silentpcreview video: AnandTech - Inside Intel's Next Unit of Computing (DC3217BY) by Anand Lal Shimpi on 11/9/2012 1:28:00 PM The first-generation NUC's are built around a dual-core ULV Ivy Bridge CPU - the Core i3 3217U (17W TDP at 1.8GHz, HD 4000 graphics running at 350MHz - 1.05GHz, QS77 Express Chipset, 2x DDR3 SO-DIMM 1066/1333MHz), mSATA, mini-PCIe, Intel HD Audio, 3x USB 2.0, HDMI, 19V-65W power brick (10W typical), 3-year warranty. 116.6mm×112.0mm×39.0mm (4.59”×4.41”×1.55”) Link to comment
rhmmmm Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Got my NUC this afternoon. Check out this video. A cool surprise awaits those opening the box. Hey, any new news or thoughts on this? I've been thinking about going with this solution (plus msata drive and memory obvs.) rather than building out an Atom CAPS box. The SilentPC review says it's pretty darn inaudible. Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted January 24, 2013 Author Share Posted January 24, 2013 Hey, any new news or thoughts on this? I've been thinking about going with this solution (plus msata drive and memory obvs.) rather than building out an Atom CAPS box. The SilentPC review says it's pretty darn inaudible. I have it sitting on my desk and the noise was too bothersome so I unplugged it for now. It's definitely not silent. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
rhmmmm Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Well, so much for that! How about something based off this?: Akasa Euler Fanless Thin ITX Case | silentpcreview.com Fanless and supports newer some newer tech than the 2800MT motherboard. I'd prefer to build something with more than an Atom processor, but still want to keep costs low. Obviously this case doesn't have enough room for something like the SoTA USB card, so that looks to be a compromise. Are there any other good fanless case recommendations out there? Link to comment
BillyBobSIN Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 I got one and quite like it as an object: small, functional, quiet, does the job I wanted it to do. I cannot hear it at all, even with my ear right up against the case. My calibrated SPL meter registers no change in ambient noise level in the area of the NUC when next to various points of the case. Loaded it up with 16GB of RAM, 120Gb SuperSSpeed S320 mSATA MLC drive and Win8, using J River, networked to a Buffalo 2TB RAID1 external drive. Can actually be fitted in a jacket pocket. Well two really, you need the other pocket for the power brick. SQ almost certainly limited in my set up by the DAC I'm using, but it seems to sound pretty good to me as well, if not up to the standard of my analogue set up(s). Probably a shopping opportunity for the near future. Caveat: this is my first music server, so my sample size is what one could describe as "small" :-) Maybe I got a "quiet" one and am thus lucky. My 2 cents, YMMV etc, etc. Note to Chris: I'm not suggesting that the one you have is not noisy, just that I appear to have a "quiet/silent enough" one. Thank you for the great site and resource. Cheers, Bill Link to comment
bibo01 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Could you please tell me if it's possible to underclock and undervolt CPU in BIOS. Thanks How curious are you? Link to comment
Ralf Hutter Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 News on the NUC front: New, cheaper Intel NUC coming next month - The Tech Report and, several companies are/will be making totally fanless cases for the NUC: Tranquil PC Reveals Passively Cooled Intel NUC Enclosure Silverstone Working On Passively Cooled Intel NUC Enclosure Link to comment
Quest Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Has anyone continued to explore on this platform? Link to comment
BigBadger Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Anyone done anything with this yet? I'm very interested seeing now that Intel and others are making fanless, media specific, etc, etc. Chris, Did you do anything with yours? Link to comment
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