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sound is awesome: full and robust; but a slight, persistent intermittent "clicking noise" (via headphones).

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upon exit and reload clicking is gone! BEAUTIFUL SOUND!

MacMini (late 2010 w/ 4 gb @ 10.9.5) dedicated to digital music (hi-res @24/96 FLAC & lossless @16/44.1) via Audirvana+ 1.5.12 * thru AQ Carbon USB to MF V-Link 192 to MF M1 DAC via Mogami Gold AES (XLR) * out to Sennheiser HD800 driven by Burson Audio HA-160 OR (when wife not home!) out to Paradigm Studio 60s driven by Golden Tree Audio SE-40 tube stereo amp * MacBook (lossey @iPod/iPad/iPhone/AppleTV + general computing) * MacBook Pro (late 2011) @ripping/tagging DVD-Audio + Blu ray Audio & for travel via Fiio E-17 * iPhone5 64gb w/ FLAC player

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I had some sort of momentary playback anomaly while listening to a ripped CD that was very short-lived. It sounded like an error in ripping, but I went back and it played through fine the second time. I had pretty much every option turned on.

 

Had something similar this morning -- playing some DSD (via proxy) tracks and on two of them, there was a slight "anomaly" - less than second, at the beginning of the tracks. Replayed them, and nothing.

 

No issues / slowness etc, and I have all the options on :-), hog, direct, max buffers, and integer -- and it does sound really good. (Need my HD 600s though ...).

 

May be a "beta" -- but I won't be rolling back to any lesser official version :-)

Source: 1.0TB OWC Mercury Elite Pro < FW800> Mac Mini (2009 / 10.8.3)

1.0TB WD MY PASSPORT Mac Mini (2009 / 10.8.3)

 

Players (Hardware): MacBook Pro 13 (2011, 10.8.3 8 gig), ATV2

Amp / DAC: Nuforce DDA-100

Speakers: ELAC 201

 

Software: iTunes & BitPerfect / Audirvana Free / Audirvana Plus / MPD 0.16.6

Connectivity: subject to random changes

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Got direct mode going, into Mytek via fw. Better to go with Apple Core or Izotope setting?

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A+ is not working anymore...

:(

 

I double click a song and see it loading on A+, but it will not play

 

 

Audirvana Plus rev. 1.3.9.1 debug information:

running on Mac OS X 10.6.8

 

User preferences:

Remote control: IR: off, Media Keys: on (with volume control: on)

 

Playlists:

Use UTF-8 for all: on

Start playback at launch with audio file: on

Remember playlist: on

Volume knob control in vertical direction

 

Sample rate converter used: iZotope 64bit SRC with upsampling to max device frequency

Polarity inversion: global=off, per track=on

 

Volume control: DAC only

Max volume limit = 100.0%

 

SysOptimizer enabled:

Spotlight: on

TimeMachine: on

iDevices USB: on

 

iTunes settings:

Completely deactivate iTunes playback: off

iTunes volume control: off

iTunes play position control: off

 

Audio settings:

Use Max I/O buffersize: on

Max Mem for audio buffers: 9216MB

Max Sample rate limit: None

Sample rate switching latency: None

 

Direct Mode audio path

 

Currently playing in standard 32bit float mode

Device: 2ch Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32bits little endian Float, 8 bytes per frame @192.0kHz

 

Active Sample Rate: 192.0kHz

Hog Mode is on

Devices found : 5

 

List of devices:

Device #0: ID 0x110 Built-in Output Manufacturer:Apple Inc. Model UID:AppleHDA:12 UID:AppleHDAEngineOutput:1B,0,1,2:0

Device #1: ID 0x10e Built-in Line Output Manufacturer:Apple Inc. Model UID:AppleHDA:12 UID:AppleHDAEngineOutput:1B,0,1,3:1

Device #2: ID 0x10c Built-in Digital Output Manufacturer:Apple Inc. Model UID:AppleHDA:12 UID:AppleHDAEngineOutput:1B,0,1,4:2

Device #3: ID 0x105 Wyred 4 Sound 24/192 Usb Interface Manufacturer:Wyred 4 Sound Model UID:com_veldom_driver_W4SUsbDevice:W4S USB UID:W4SUsbEngine:0

Device #4: ID 0x102 AstoundStereo (2ch) Manufacturer:GenAudio, Inc. Model UID:com_genaudioinc_driver_AstoundStereoDevice:AstoundStereo Device UID:com_genaudioinc_driver_AstoundStereoEngine:0

 

Preferred device: Wyred 4 Sound 24/192 Usb Interface Model UID:com_veldom_driver_W4SUsbDevice:W4S USB UID:W4SUsbEngine:0

 

Selected device:

ID 0x105 Wyred 4 Sound 24/192 Usb Interface Manufacturer:Wyred 4 Sound

Model UID:com_veldom_driver_W4SUsbDevice:W4S USB UID:W4SUsbEngine:0

 

1 available sample rates up to 192000.0Hz

44100.0 to 192000.0

 

Audio buffer frame size : 512 to 8192 frames

Current I/O buffer frame size : 2048

Physical (analog) volume control: No

Virtual (digital) volume control: No

Preferred stereo channels L:1 R:2

DSD capability: Unhandled

Simple stereo device: yes

Channel mapping: L:Stream 0 channel 0 R:Stream 0 channel 1

 

1 output streams:

Stream ID 0x1 2 channels starting at 1

1 virtual formats:

Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32bits little endian Float @44.1 to 192.0kHz

 

1 physical formats

Mixable linear PCM Interleaved 32bits big endian Signed Integer aligned High in 32bit @44.1 to 192.0kHz

MacPro Xeon/Audirvana-ITunes/USB/W4S DAC2 SE/ADAM Delta

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Got direct mode going, into Mytek via fw. Better to go with Apple Core or Izotope setting?

 

I imagine many people would say iZotope, probably some saying that without actually comparing the options, but my recommendation is to go with the one which sounds best to you.

 

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I encountered another issue last night: I was listening to a DSD .iso (no-sound proxies), and several tracks in, in the middle of the track ... silence. The progress indicator in the player window continued to advance, but there was no sound.

 

Debug info attached.

 

That aside, I continue to be impressed with the sound quality.

 

--David

A+DebugLog02_orgel.txt

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Direct mode sounds simply stunning. Thanks Damien!

 

I have a quick question on integer mode. I'm now running my DAC directly to my amp and using Audirvana to control the volume. Can I use integer mode this way or does it only work with "DAC only" volume control?

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If you are using a Metric Halo DAC (e.g. LIO-8), then this beta release of A+ will not work at all.

 

Damien is aware of this and working on a solution.

 

Very much looking forward to using Direct Mode. Thanks in advance to Damien for coming up with imaginative features and bringing us better SQ.

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I encountered another issue last night: I was listening to a DSD .iso (no-sound proxies), and several tracks in, in the middle of the track ... silence. The progress indicator in the player window continued to advance, but there was no sound.

--David

 

I have exactly the same problem. Hope it will be fixed in the next release.

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Works awesome with my mac mini and peachtree iNova.

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Second Floor: Intel NUC>LampizatOr GA TRP/LampizatOr Integrated Solid State amp>triode wire labs speaker cables & power cord and wywires power cords>vapor über auroras speakers

Old school: VPI Prime Signature turntable w/ Ortofon Bronze Cadenza cartridge and Technics SP-10 mk2

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Working successfully with NuForce uDac II async upgrade :-) -- all options (hog, direct, max buffers, int) enabled. Currently using it at work, playlist mode.

Source: 1.0TB OWC Mercury Elite Pro < FW800> Mac Mini (2009 / 10.8.3)

1.0TB WD MY PASSPORT Mac Mini (2009 / 10.8.3)

 

Players (Hardware): MacBook Pro 13 (2011, 10.8.3 8 gig), ATV2

Amp / DAC: Nuforce DDA-100

Speakers: ELAC 201

 

Software: iTunes & BitPerfect / Audirvana Free / Audirvana Plus / MPD 0.16.6

Connectivity: subject to random changes

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A+ is not working anymore...

:(

 

I double click a song and see it loading on A+, but it will not play

 

Something similar happened to me a couple of times, but I think it was connected specifically with running 1.3.5, then switching to the beta. When I didn't include 1.3.5, I didn't experience the problem. Don't know if you were trying anything like that; just a suggestion for a possible cause.

One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller

The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein

Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature.

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Something similar happened to me a couple of times, but I think it was connected specifically with running 1.3.5, then switching to the beta. When I didn't include 1.3.5, I didn't experience the problem. Don't know if you were trying anything like that; just a suggestion for a possible cause.

now that I think about it, my "clicks" may have occurred when 1.3.5 was inadvertently simultaneously open.

MacMini (late 2010 w/ 4 gb @ 10.9.5) dedicated to digital music (hi-res @24/96 FLAC & lossless @16/44.1) via Audirvana+ 1.5.12 * thru AQ Carbon USB to MF V-Link 192 to MF M1 DAC via Mogami Gold AES (XLR) * out to Sennheiser HD800 driven by Burson Audio HA-160 OR (when wife not home!) out to Paradigm Studio 60s driven by Golden Tree Audio SE-40 tube stereo amp * MacBook (lossey @iPod/iPad/iPhone/AppleTV + general computing) * MacBook Pro (late 2011) @ripping/tagging DVD-Audio + Blu ray Audio & for travel via Fiio E-17 * iPhone5 64gb w/ FLAC player

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I made a little changes to my rig, and "downgrade" my USB interfase to a Teralink X2, i connected thru a ADuM4160 USB Isolator and provide battery power, and now Direct and Integer Mode works and it's amazing, great details and 3D Image sound!!!!!!!! I't surpass the Jkenny Hiface !!!!! wich unfortunately doesn't work in direct or integre mode :(

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Just a reminder that Integer mode does not work on a Toslink interface. Here is a snippet from an old thread on integer mode. Note that Damien is referring to an old version of Audivarna here in conjunction with Leopard, but I assume the Toslink part is still true.

 

"The toslink output build-in the Macs is NOT integer capable.

So whatever the DAC it won't happen.....

Damien"

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"Mode works and it's amazing, great details and 3D Image sound!!!!!!!!"

 

That is the same thinking I had. I put some music from iTunes into the playlist and it sounded like I upgraded my system immensely. Didn't even spend any money!

Third Floor: AE>Pioneer solid state integrated>Sony PS-x70 turntable>KEF 103.2 speakers

Second Floor: Intel NUC>LampizatOr GA TRP/LampizatOr Integrated Solid State amp>triode wire labs speaker cables & power cord and wywires power cords>vapor über auroras speakers

Old school: VPI Prime Signature turntable w/ Ortofon Bronze Cadenza cartridge and Technics SP-10 mk2

First Floor: AE>lifatec silflex glass toslink>schiit bifrost über>Kimber kable hero RCA>audioengine 5

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Thanks for the advice, I deleted the software and reinstalled from the link on this thread without success.

 

Something similar happened to me a couple of times, but I think it was connected specifically with running 1.3.5, then switching to the beta. When I didn't include 1.3.5, I didn't experience the problem. Don't know if you were trying anything like that; just a suggestion for a possible cause.

MacPro Xeon/Audirvana-ITunes/USB/W4S DAC2 SE/ADAM Delta

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Thanks for the advice, I deleted the software and reinstalled from the link on this thread without success.

 

I guess one thing that's still possible is to see if blowing away the A+ preference files and starting fresh will help (presuming you only deleted the application itself and not the other files it leaves on the computer). I don't recall offhand where those preference files are (they usually have "plist" in the name), but some of the other folks who frequent the forum should know.

One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller

The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein

Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature.

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Damien, just had my second kernel panic (posted about my first attempting to play DSD > PCM earlier). This time, just double-clicked on a normal ALAC track in iTunes and got the panic.

 

What information would you like - assuming you'd like to troubleshoot this issue?

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I suspected that deleting the application was not enough, I will look into it.

 

Thank you Sir for your input.

 

I guess one thing that's still possible is to see if blowing away the A+ preference files and starting fresh will help (presuming you only deleted the application itself and not the other files it leaves on the computer). I don't recall offhand where those preference files are (they usually have "plist" in the name), but some of the other folks who frequent the forum should know.

MacPro Xeon/Audirvana-ITunes/USB/W4S DAC2 SE/ADAM Delta

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Just installed, and it works fine with Hiface 2!

Can't say much about sound quality yet, but integration with iTunes and Remote App seems at least as good as 1.35 build. No skips or clicks, just a few more seconds to kick off the playback.

Massimiliano

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