EdFortune Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I'm trying to build a new music server and almost all the new motherboards are PCIe 1x. Does anyone know if SOtM are making a PCIe version of their card? Has anyone found another card like the SOtM tX-USB Audiophile PCI to USB Audio Card? Or as another option, a galvanic isolated usb 2.0 connector that I can connect to the usb header of a motherboard(high speed, not full)? Ed Fortune Link to comment
beetlemania Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 one of the SOtM importers (Sonore or Aurality) wrote that there is a PCIe version in the works. No timetable was given. Roon ROCK (Roon 1.7; NUC7i3) > Ayre QB-9 Twenty > Ayre AX-5 Twenty > Thiel CS2.4SE (crossovers rebuilt with Clarity CSA and Multicap RTX caps, Mills MRA-12 resistors; ERSE and Jantzen coils; Cardas binding posts and hookup wire); Cardas and OEM power cables, interconnects, and speaker cables Link to comment
EdFortune Posted February 11, 2012 Author Share Posted February 11, 2012 Oh well, I spent some time searching and this forum is an excellent user community. So I'm sure multiple people read my post and have not found anything like the SotM. I'll just search for a motherboard with the ancient PCI interface :-( Thank goodness they are still around. Ed Fortune Link to comment
hifitubes Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I'm planning on using the SotM USB>AES with an Aquvox linear power supply and maybe add the PCI-E card later ...as overkill? DIGITAL: Windows 7 x64 JRMC19 >Adnaco S3B fiber over USB (battery power)> Auralic Vega > Tortuga LDR custom LPSU > Zu Union Cubes + Deep Hemp Sub ANALOG: PTP Audio Solid 9 > Audiomods Series V > Audio Technica Art-7 MC > Allnic H1201 > Tortuga LDR > Zu Union Cubes + Deep Hemp Sub ACCESSORIES: PlatterSpeed, BlackCat cables, Antipodes Cables, Huffman Cables, Feickert Protracter, OMA Graphite mat, JRemote Link to comment
EdFortune Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 I think using both the Aquvox and the SoTM will eliminate any potential ground noise in your system. Personally overkill is not in my vocabulary, but with that said, you probably would be fine with either/ or the SoTM or Aquvox. Ed Fortune Link to comment
ItemAudio Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 As I said before, I don't think you'll have long to wait... we received a reply from SoTM this morning in response to a few questions last week re: products in the pipeline. The choice of PCI boards is limited and shrinking! Link to comment
Chris Gr Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Good news ! I'm mounting a new CAPS v2.0 (alternative). I will wait a little bit before ordering a SoTM USB-Card CAPS Alternative (HFX case, AMD E-450 based MoBo) -> Wavelink -> Icos Dactablette 2 -> Acoustic Masterpiece AM-201 (Rudistor RPX-33 headamp) -> ProAc Response D2 (Grado GS1000) Link to comment
jdubs Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Any update on a pci-e version? Jim Link to comment
phofman Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Following the specifications and pictures at http://www.sonore.us/SOtM.html , I do not think the USB controller card provides galvanic isolation. Or does it? Link to comment
1audio Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 The SOtM card does not provide galvanic isolation. It provides a separate USB controller connecting directly to the PCI buss with a well isolated, regulated DC power supply. Demian Martin auraliti http://www.auraliti.com Constellation Audio http://www.constellationaudio.com NuForce http://www.nuforce.com Monster Cable http://www.monstercable.com Link to comment
vortecjr Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 there is a limitation on galvanically isolating usb data lines. As such this approach is limited to low/full speed devices. Also, usb devices will generally convert usb data to i2s data and apply galvanic isolation at the i2s data lines. However, understand that galvanic isolation adds jitter so it's not always done by the dac designer. Jesus R SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
phofman Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Also, usb devices will generally convert usb data to i2s data and apply galvanic isolation at the i2s data lines. I am afraid isolation at i2s level will not protect the actual clock from the noise. Which dacs provide i2s galvanic isolation? Link to comment
vortecjr Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 it's not as simple as that because there are a few clocks to speak about.... This is the reason for the power treatments that Demian notes above at the SOtM tX-USB card. The clocks on the SOtM tX-USB card are fed from the treated power and used for adaptive devices. Keep in mind that the designer of the USB device can choose not to power components on there boards from USB power. The new Weiss DAC202 with asynchronous USB input clocks the signal at it's internal card. This board is a USB to i2s interface and the board has galvanic isolation of the i2s signals and the option to use USB power or external power. Another example is the SOtM dX-USB-HD converter that can be powered by USB power or external power (user selected). If you select USB power in combination with the SOtM tX-USB card then at least you get treated USB power. This device is USB to SPDIF RCA, SPDIF optical and AES/EBU output. The SPDIF optical output is obviously isolated. I'm not sure sure about the other outputs being galvanically isolated, but again some DACs have galvanic isolation of there digital inputs. The Sonore Signature Series DAC does not have USB input and uses direct i2s input instead. The i2s input is isolated as well as the other digital inputs as a design requirement:) Jesus R SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
jdubs Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Jesus, any update on the PCI-e version of the card? Thanks, Jim Link to comment
vortecjr Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 coming soon:) Jesus R SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
jdubs Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Can you define "soon", at least directionally? Also, will it be PCIe x1? Thanks, Jim Link to comment
vortecjr Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 these are the specs at the moment: - USB 3.0 support x 1(compatible USB 2.0) - PCI express x 1 - external IDE 4 pin power connector and power input jack for linear adaptor or battery pack - working with windows, Linux - improve power noise filter - improve USB clock jitter performance - USB port power current up to 1A Jesus R SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
jdubs Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Thanks Jesus! All looks great! Any sense for timing? -Jim Link to comment
xsajohn Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 I'll be one of the first to order the PCIe version. (I haven't seen a PCI slot on a sota motherboard since 2009 - lol!). PS Audio DirectStream DSD Bridge -> Classe CA-2200 - >B&W 803-D2, Nordost Tyr cabled. Synology NAS, MinimServer, BubbleDS. Link to comment
Chris Gr Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 I can see that the new Card has only one USB3 port. I hope it will be compatible with the Thesycon USB Audio driver. I already tried to connect my Wavelink to a USB3 port on my motherboard and did not work properly. CAPS Alternative (HFX case, AMD E-450 based MoBo) -> Wavelink -> Icos Dactablette 2 -> Acoustic Masterpiece AM-201 (Rudistor RPX-33 headamp) -> ProAc Response D2 (Grado GS1000) Link to comment
jay Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Jesus-- Does your post above imply it's not yet working (or not intended to work) with OSX? Link to comment
vortecjr Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 jay, just a mistake... + OS-X v10.x Jesus R SONORE computer audio | opticalRendu | ultraRendu | microRendu | Signature Rendu SE | endPoint | opticalModule DX | Power Supplies | Link to comment
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Miska Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Ethernet provides galvanic isolation and doesn't run audio clocks over the link (asynchronous)... It is also faster than USB2... Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
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