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    The Auralic Aries is one of the most highly anticipated products in recent memory. From the moment it was announced as a wireless DXD and DSD capable component with USB output to today, the Aries has remained high on many peoples’ lists of components to audition. Fortunately I’ve been able to audition the Aries for several months. During this audition many software and firmware updates were released and the product continued to improve far beyond its initial capabilities. For example, users of the Aries requested USB disk playback and Auralic delivered the feature through a firmware update. Based on my experience with the Aries it’s completely understandable why the product remains very hot among members of the Computer Audiophile Community. As of today the Aries and corresponding Lightning DS app deliver on all Auralic’s promises. From great OpenHome / DLNA support to AirPlay to top notch Tidal HiFi integration to super sound quality to outstanding upgradability, Auralic has hit a home run with the Aries. Great features galore with the sound quality to match. The Aries is definitely my network audio device of choice.

     

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    What is Aries and Lightning DS

     

     

    The Auralic Aries is a unique product in high end audio. It’s audio capabilities, visible in plain sight, shouldn’t fool users into thinking this is a simplistic device. Aries is a high end audio component with a computer on-board. Based on a Quad-Core ARM Coretex-A9 processor running at 1GHz, 1GB DDR3 onboard memory and 4GB internal storage, the Computer-on-Module (visible with heat sink in photos) sits just behind the front panel display. This computer, running Linux, is the heart of Aries’ flexibility and future proofing. When Auralic wants to add features or fix bugs it simply sends an update to the unit similar to updating one’s desktop computer. For example, the first Aries units to hit the streets “featured” a noisy front panel display that produced a buzzing sound audible from one’s listening position. Auralic figured out how to reduce the noise down to a very low level and released an upgrade to all Aries units. Because the Linux / ARM platform is so flexible, the future capabilities of the Aries are really endless. In addition to a powerful computer on-board the Aries features audio circuitry similar to Auralic’s other products. The cleanly designed board features an XMOS USB controller and two individual FemtoClocks for both USB audio host and digital outputs including TosLink, S/PDIF (coaxial), and AES.

     

     

    What exactly is the Aries? It’s a bridge between one’s music and one’s audio system. Whether music is stored on a networked DLNA server or a USB drive, the Aries will process it and send it to one’s digital to analog converter. The Aries turns any DAC into a network capable audio component and so much more. My current reference, the Berkeley Audio Design Alpha DAC RS, doesn’t feature an Ethernet input, WiFi support, USB storage input, or streaming service support such as Tidal HiFI. Adding all these capabilities to the Alpha DAC RS was as easy as putting the Aries on my wireless network and connecting it physically to the Alpha DAC RS via AES cable.

     

     

    What is Lightning DS? Lightning DS is the software application used to control almost all aspects of the Aries. With the exception of turning the unit’s power on, Lightning DS controls everything from playback to configuration. Currently the app is only available for iPads.

     

     

    Aries and Lightning DS Features

     

    Some of the major features of the Aries / Lightning DS package are it’s ability to be an OpenHome / DLNA renderer, Tidal HiFi integration, wireless operation, AirPlay, USB drive support, and USB DAC support. Within each one of these features are nuances that can make or break a product. During this review period I dove deep into these features to make sure the Aries was really all that Auralic claimed in the product press releases.

     

     

    The Aries ability to function as an OpenHome / DLNA renderer is absolutely critical. Some users may purchase the component specifically for this feature and this feature only. As usual I tested its ability to play gapless 24/192 content by sending the Stravinsky Apollon musagete & Pulcinella Suite from Linn Records to the Aries. In addition I sent Pink Floyd’s The Dark Side of the Moon at 24/96 to the Aries because I’ve embedded some very large album art into the tracks and it’s a great test of a renderer’s ability to handle difficult files. Aries handled all of my gapless testing without a hiccup, including streaming from Tidal HiFi. The Aries supports two modes, A) OpenHome and B) UPnP Renderer for DLNA type network audio playback. The default mode is OpenHome as it’s said to be a bit more advanced than UPnP mode with it support for on-device playlists among other things. One reason to change from the default and switch to UPnP renderer is if the user wishes to use a control point such as JRiver with JRemote on iOS devices. The Aries will only appear as a DLNA zone within JRiver Media Center when the UPnP Renderer mode is selected within Auralic’s Lightning DS app. As a renderer I found the Aries to be remarkably trouble free using firmware version 1.11.

     

     

    The Lightning DS iOS application is also just as critical as the Aries’ ability to play music via DLNA. Without a stable and quality remote control application, the user experience can be terrible and frustrating. Fortunately the Lightning DS application has undergone major updates and improvements since its first beta release. I’ve been using version 1.6 with great success. Navigation of one’s library is very easy and pretty intuitive. The advantage here goes to users who don’t have much experience with iPad remote control applications. Those of us who have used numerous apps can get stuck in our old ways of thinking and expect all apps to function the same way. Users just starting out with network audio will have no trouble navigating the Lightning DS app. One feature I really like in the Lightning DS app is its display of search results. Entering a term in the search box and tapping search causes Lightning DS to search several metadata fields rather than a single field depending on the view of the user. Thus, the search results come back in sections such as Artist, Composers, Albums, and Tracks. One search delivers all these results on the same screen, but organized very nicely. Other remote control applications force the user to search a single metadata field such as Artist or Album and only view results for that field. As long as the results are presented nicely I much prefer to search several fields at once. Adding tracks to a playlist is another feature I really like with Lightning DS. I frequently listen to entire albums and notice a new track that I’d like to put on my demonstration playlist. Many application make this a multi-multi step process that results in me not adding the track because it’s too convoluted. Lightning DS on the other hand enables me to add any track to any playlist with just a couple taps of my finger. The caveat here is that this can’t be done from the currently playing playlist, rather it has to be done from the library view.

     

     

    Lightning DS isn’t perfect. My main gripe with the app is its inability to add local network music to the same playlist as music from streaming services such as Tidal HiFi. I frequently switch between local and streaming music, but must switch modes from Streaming Mode to Library Mode in order to do so. Users have a choice between either streaming or local playback.

     

     

    One minor but very nice feature of Lightning DS is its ability to display information about the music currently playing. The app displays both kHz such as 44.1, 96, etc…, bit depth such as 16 or 24, and Mbps. When listening to one’s own library of music this information is not as important as when one’s is streaming from a service such as Tidal HiFi. The display of Mbps enabled me to identify some of Shelby Lynne’s material streaming at 320 Kbps MP3 quality from Tidal rather than a lossless number likely around 800-1000.

     

     

    Auralic’s integration of Tidal HiFi into Lightning DS is currently very good. Searching for my favorite band, Pearl Jam, produces really fast results including Artists, Albums, Tracks, and Playlists that feature Pearl Jam. One great feature that sets Lightning DS apart from many of the other applications that integrate streaming services is its ability to access, edit, and add to the Tidal HiFi favorites section. This is absolutely critical when using a service that has 25,000,000 tracks. Within Tidal HiFi, on my desktop, iPhone, or through the Lightning DS app, I frequently add Artists, Albums, and Tracks to my favorites. the ability to access these favorites from Lightning DS can’t be overestimated. Many apps simply let the user search and play music from Tidal HiFi without the ability to personalize anything through the Favorites section. Lightning DS excels in this area. During my many hours of listening through Tidal HiFi playback was always bit perfect and 99% of the time flawless through the Aries / Lightning DS combo.

     

     

    When I first received the Aries I didn’t think much about using it via WiFi. My entire listening environment is wired with AudioQuest Vodka Ethernet cables and I generally have no need for WiFi, other than for iPad connectivity. Toward the end of this review period I decided to test the wireless operation because I can see many members of the Computer Audiophile Community using this mode of connectivity. My wireless network consists of multiple Apple AirPort Extreme 802.11ac access points and a couple AirPort Expresses that support 802.11n. i first setup the Aries to connect to the Airport Extremes using the 2.4 GHz bandwidth. This was problematic when playing music at 24/176.4 and 24/192. I experienced many dropouts. Auralic support suggested I try switching to the 5 GHz bandwidth and manually selecting a wireless channel, rather than the automatic setting, if possible because this is a known issue among Aries users with Apple wireless routers. I decided to connect the Aries to the 5 GHz network running on one of the AirPort Express units as a test. This was all I needed to do to get perfect smooth playback without hiccups. Since switching to wireless operation I haven’t gone back to wired Ethernet because WiFi works great.

     

     

    AirPlay is one of those features that I use in waves. I’ll get really into specific podcasts and stream them from my Retina 5K iMac to my main audio system via AirPlay. At other times I won’t listen to anything via AirPlay for weeks on end. I’ve been streaming the Serial podcast lately via AirPlay to the Aries. Unlike other products I’ve used, the Aries has worked terrifically every time. Quite a few Linux based products that support AirPlay have issues with streaming stability. The Aries is not one of those problem children. In addition to AirPlay, Aries supports sending audio from a Mac or PC using Songcast. The beauty of Songcast is that it doesn’t require use of Apple software in order to send audio to a network receiver. After installing Songcast software the user can specify all audio output go to the Aries. In my testing I used all kinds of apps such as Tidal HiFi within the Chrome web browser and YouTube without any playback issues. Songcast also passed my bit perfect testing, so I can assure readers it isn’t altering the digital data one bit. I view Songcast as the way to stream all audio that can’t be streamed by another built-in application. I don’t see myself using it frequently, but having the ability is a great thing and another feather in the Auralic cap of capabilities.

     

     

    The rear of the Aries features two USB ports. One port supports USB DACs and the other supports USB disks. The USB DAC port is capable of functioning with a vast majority of USB DACs. The Aries supports Class 2 USB audio devices without many issues. I can’t say all XMOS based DACs work great, but I’m willing to bet 99% of them would have no issues. Because of the Aries’ flexible platform Auralic has preinstalled USB drivers for some of the more popular USB DACs that require drivers. This includes those based on the M2Tech or Mytek Digital platforms. I’ve heard the Chord Hugo works with Aries, but I am not 100% positive at the time of this writing. My XMOS based Berkeley Audio Design Alpha USB works without issue while connected to the Aries. The USB disk port on the Aries is something I didn’t understand at first. I didn’t get why someone would want to use local storage when they could just stream from the network. Then an astute member of the CA Community suggested the USB port was a simple way for friends to share music they have brought over to one’s house on a USB flash drive. Ah ha, I finally understood why people were so worked up about support for this feature. During my USB stick tests I ran into one USB flash drive that couldn’t be read by the Aries. I’m not entirely sure what it is about this specific stick that makes it not work, but I suspect there is a hidden partition on the stick from a previous Linux installation image. After switching USB sticks everything worked as designed. Auralic’s documentation suggests the USB port supports up to 16 Terabyte drives and can even power some USB disks. Once a disk is connected the Aries takes an inventory of the music and stores this in its database. Thus, removing the disk, adding music, and reinserting the same disk doesn’t require a lengthy re-inventory of all the music. Based on my experience using the USB disk feature, I’d say it works great and much quicker than I would have thought.

     

     

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    Sonic Impressions

     

     

    Sonically the Auralic Aries is a superstar. It has all the features one wants and it manages to perform among the best source components I’ve heard. Whether streaming from Tidal HiFi, my local network, or directly from a USB stick the sound of Aries was consistent throughout the review period. Streaming Leonard Cohen’s new album Popular Problems from Tidal HiFi reproduced terrific sound through my Alpha DAC RS / Pass Labs / TAD / Wire World system. Most notably were the tracks Almost Like The Blues and Samson In New Orleans. On ‘Samson’ there is a beautiful violin thats smoothness is so opposite Leonards’s raspy baritone that it sounds magical. Listening to the ‘Blues’ it’s easy to get lost in Leonard’s story because his voice comes through very raw. What I mean by that is the sound of his voice seems unaltered and so clear that he sounds like he is sitting between the speakers. The first few times I listened to the track I felt a bit uncomfortable. The backing vocal throughout this track is also as smooth as silk through the Aries / Alpha DAC RS combo.

     

     

    Switching to Leonard Cohen’s previous album, Old Ideas, playing from my local network DLNA server reproduced sound that was equally thrilling. On Show Me The Place Leonard’s baritone again sounds rough, raspy, and raw. Just like it should sound. In similar fashion the backing vocals and violin in this track are so delicate yet smooth and so opposite Leonard’s voice that they are irresistible. Getting lost in this track is easy, especially when the backing singers gently edge into the track singing, “show me the place…”

     

     

    “When are you gonna come down? When are you going to land?” These are the first two lines of Goodbye Yellow Brick Road. Listening to Elton John perform this track usually doesn’t do it for me. However, listening to Sara Bareilles softy sing those two lines through the Aries gave me chills each time I listened. This live version of Yellow Brick Road at 24 bit / 96 kHz (4.616 Mbps according to Lightning DS) never gets old. I listened to the entire album a few times, but replayed this track several more times. Just hearing the opening notes of Sara’s keyboard almost gives me a Pavlovian response. The Aries does this track and the entire album justice by reproducing it wonderfully.

     

     

    Listening to Laith Al-Saadi’s Real album at 24/192 (hand delivered to me by Laith’s brother at RMAF) through the Aries really allowed me to hear each of the talented musicians shine in high resolution. Laith’s cover of The Band’s Ophelia is full of great vocals, great guitars, terrific horns, and a humbling Hammond B3 organ. The sound of the entire band together is equally as impressive as when the musicians edge out in front of the others individually. Each instrument can be heard with excellent delineation at all points throughout the track.

     

     

    Another one of my favorite newish albums is Fun Machine from Lake Street Dive. The band covers some great tracks on this album including the Jackson 5's I Want You Back. One can’t miss the opening double bass on this track. Its clarity can be stunning on a great system, including those containing the Auralic Aries. What may be missed on lesser systems however is the air around the cymbal in the background throughout the first minute of the track. Also on the album is a terrific cover of Hall & Oates’ Rich Girl. On this track vocalist Rachael Price’s voice goes from very controlled to really belting it out and throughout the entire track it remains silky smooth. The Aries allows this vocal and a great trumpet solo half-way through the track really stand out.

     

     

    Conclusion

     

     

    cash-logo-black-thumb.jpgThe Auralic Aries had a lot to live up to upon its arrival. Auralic issued press releases touting its capabilities while the public took each statement and ran with it, making the Aries larger than life before anyone had spent one minute with the product. Fortunately for everyone involved, Auralic has delivered on its promise of a unique and terrific product. The Aries plethora of capabilities such as OpenHome / DLNA rendering, AirPlay, SongCast, WiFi, USB playback, USB disk, and terrific Tidal HiFi integration make it a sure leader in this market segment. Adding to this its super sound quality make it THE leader and should place it on top of readers’ audition considerations. No matter what I listened to during the review I believe I heard what I was supposed to hear through the Aries. I couldn’t identify a sonic signature of noise even when the WiFi was enabled. I won’t say the Aries was completely transparent because no component can escape imprinting some sonic signature on the audio. I will say the Aries is as good as or better than all other sources I’ve had in my system. Whether it was a CAPS or a turnkey music server, the Aries was equal or better in all sonic respects. It’s incredibly tough to be a jack of all trades and a master of all trades, but the Aries comes as close as any component I’ve yet heard.

     

     

     

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    Chris-

     

    Thanks for the review.

     

    You just published a review of the Sonore Signature Rendu. Do you have a preference of one over the other in terms of SQ?

     

     

    This is also the primary question that I have, since reading that review. Thanks for putting it out there firedog. Chris?

     

    JC

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    firedog - Yesterday, 06:48 AM

     

     

    "Chris-

     

    Thanks for the review.

     

    You just published a review of the Sonore Signature Rendu. Do you have a preference of one over the other in terms of SQ?"

     

     

    This was the first question that came into my mind. Thanks for putting it out there Firedog. Chris?

     

     

    JC

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    Question: Do you or anybody else have any thoughts on the Aries ($1700) versus the Aries LE ($1000)? I'm running a mac mini with A+ into an Ayre QB-9. The QB-9 is relatively isolated from electrical noise, but maybe there's more to it than I understand.

     

    Great review Chris. I'm seriously thinking about switching to the Aries, but it's an act of faith, given that there are no dealers in my small town: Chicago. A well thought out review from a reliable reviewer helps. See you at AXPONA?

     

    I went the LE route to replace my Mac Mini, I'm very happy with it, it allowed me to put more money into my DAC.

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    I enjoyed this review but am still confused as to whether or not I would even be able to use this product. I had wanted to purchase it some time ago when it was first released but never quite understood how it would work in my setup. Perhaps someone could help me decide if this product would work for me. I plan to use it as part of a headphone setup in my den, but I don't have access to an ethernet port in that room. My internet speeds are pretty slow due to an old router (802.11b) so I don't think wireless would be an option either. I've considered using a Hard Drive, but as I download a lot of music, I wouldn't want to have to keep transfering new music to it everytime I downloaded something. Are there any other options or is there a way to make it work with what I've got. Also, I don't have an iPad, but I do own an iPhone, will that work with the Aries too?

     

    @Goldendarko

     

    I had a similar situation (wanting to set up a headphone listening station in a room with no ethernet ports). I bought a couple of NetGear 500mbps Powerline Ethernet adaptors and they work wonderfully. 500mbps is plenty fast enough to transfer even my quad-rate DSD tracks from my Synology NAS over the powerline ethernet to my Mac Mini with JRiver. Really, I'm quite impressed with the throughput I'm getting using my home's electrical wiring instead of having to try and run ethernet cables.

     

    You may want to consider upgrading your 802.11b router though ;)

     

    Dave

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    Can anyone confirm if the Aries mates with the wavelength proton usb DAC? I am talking about powering it as well as appropriate volume settings since proton needs it's line level at 90% volume....

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    One thing that irritates me with the LDS is the light theme. I really want a dark theme like the Lumin app provides (too bad the OH Lumin app was not mentioned in this review, btw). The light theme (which does not dim) keeps disturbing the musical experience, so I have to put my iPad away from my lap during listening (yes, I know I am a demanding customer and probably the only person dissatisfied with this).

     

    You are not alone...

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    +1

     

    You used the same language here as the review for the SSR. ".....sounds as good or better than anything.....including CAPS...." This device has more flexibility and costs less. Does it sound as good in your reference system as the SSR? 95% as good?

     

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    Inquiring minds....................................................

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    Yes exactly.

    HUGE sonic upgrade by having an Aries replace my Mac Mini that was running A+ (though all my music is stored on a NAS).

     

    Unfortunately this was not my experience. I currently have a non-optimized MacMini and when I had the opportunity to try the Aries I was really convinced it would sound better. And I was looking forward to retire the MacMini and take advantage of all the convenience and simplicity Aires provides.

     

    But... much to my dismay, it sounded worse than MacMini+Audirvana. More harsh. Less natural.

     

    I find it odd because MacMini has an internal HDD, a crappy power supply and is running a lot of extra unneeded processes. And because everyone else is reporting significant sonic improvements.

     

    I ended up returning it and am stuck with Audirvana and it's awkward interface.

     

    BTW, I also tried the SOtM SMS-100 and also returned it for the same reason.

     

    I really hope to find a streamer sounding better than my MacMini soon...

     

    Nuno

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    Unfortunately this was not my experience. I currently have a non-optimized MacMini and when I had the opportunity to try the Aries I was really convinced it would sound better. And I was looking forward to retire the MacMini and take advantage of all the convenience and simplicity Aires provides.

     

    But... much to my dismay, it sounded worse than MacMini+Audirvana. More harsh. Less natural. I find it odd because MacMini has an internal HDD, a crappy power supply and is running a lot of extra unneeded processes. And because everyone else is reporting significant sonic improvements.

    +1

     

    See thread: http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f22-networking-networked-audio-and-streaming/aries-vs-mini-confused-22664/#post374285

     

    My aim when listening is to get to a state where the music just comes through effortlessly and I am simply appreciating it. When this happens I am not listening for "sound effects" but rather I am just enjoying the music.

     

    I am using four configs:

    A- Mini + HQPlayer 3.5.1

    B- Mini + Amarra 3.0.3

    C- Mini + Audirvana 1.5.10 + iTunes

    D- ARIES

     

    In my system, A for DSD files and B for PCM files deliver such an experience. C is close and has the convenience of the (not great but never breaks) iTunes iPad remote. But C isn't as good. D simply isn't there.

     

    I really really really want to like ARIES because of the convenience and TIDAL integration. Alas. It's not effortless. Air is lacking. Tonality and color is lacking. It sounds good, it's just not bringing it home for me.

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    But... much to my dismay, it sounded worse than MacMini+Audirvana. More harsh. Less natural.

     

    Air is lacking. Tonality and color is lacking. It sounds good, it's just not bringing it home for me.

     

    How can we be having exactly the opposite impressions? The improvements I've been hearing from the Aries over my former Mac Mini running A+ have been blowing my mind.

     

    Most important improvement was probably the reduction in glare and harshness. I now find enjoyable many CD rips that were difficult to listen to previously.

     

    Clarity improved significantly. This has been the thing that has most had my jaw on the floor. You could not pay me to go back to the Mac Mini.

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    How can we be having exactly the opposite impressions? The improvements I've been hearing from the Aries over my former Mac Mini running A+ have been blowing my mind.

     

    Most important improvement was probably the reduction in glare and harshness. I now find enjoyable many CD rips that were difficult to listen to previously.

     

    Clarity improved significantly. This has been the thing that has most had my jaw on the floor. You could not pay me to go back to the Mac Mini.

    Well simply put this is not our experience. My mac mini - save for a linear power supply - is fairly carefully optimized. I even tried putting the ARIES on other platforms and such with no noticeable improvement (maybe a little but still not "it").

     

    As I said in the other thread, I find the ARIES more "gentle" in the high frequencies but in a way that sounds constrained.

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    Well simply put this is not our experience. My mac mini - save for a linear power supply - is fairly carefully optimized. I even tried putting the ARIES on other platforms and such with no noticeable improvement (maybe a little but still not "it").

     

    As I said in the other thread, I find the ARIES more "gentle" in the high frequencies but in a way that sounds constrained.

     

    When I recently replaced a 2 year old MacBook Pro (Early 2011) with the most recent Mac Mini the sound improvement, all other things being equal (incl. Yosemite, Amarra 3.0.3), was substantial. Must be the hardware differences. The new PCI-E based SSD may be part of this but there may have been changes in many other parts of the system, hardware wise, that in conjunction with the latest OS X drivers, just make for a cleaner transfer of bits. And I tried the most recent release of A+ just for grins to see if it would sound better than Amarra. Not a chance, though it's quite a bit closer than all other software I've used. Wishing that JRMC were nearly as nice, since it's far easier to use, especially with iPad app access using JRemote.

     

    Wish that Chris would respond to the many questions that have come up as to the differences he perceives with the various music servers he's used in his system. After all, we're all looking to get the absolutely best sound source, no matter the way the bits get into the DAC of choice.

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    When I recently replaced a 2 year old MacBook Pro (Early 2011) with the most recent Mac Mini the sound improvement, all other things being equal (incl. Yosemite, Amarra 3.0.3), was substantial.

    When I replaced a 2009 mini (8gb RAM, SSD, ~ 2.6 GHz Core2Duo) with a 2012 mini (the one in my profile) I too experienced a big improvement in the sound.

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    When I replaced a 2009 mini (8gb RAM, SSD, ~ 2.6 GHz Core2Duo) with a 2012 mini (the one in my profile) I too experienced a big improvement in the sound.

     

    Maybe that explains the difference in our impressions of the Aries. The Aries replaced my 2009 Mac Mini.

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    Maybe that explains the difference in our impressions of the Aries. The Aries replaced my 2009 Mac Mini.

     

    Maybe that explains it because I also own a 2012 MacMini...

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    Maybe that explains the difference in our impressions of the Aries. The Aries replaced my 2009 Mac Mini.

    Possibly. I was quite surprised by the difference from the 2009 to the 2012... Not subtle at all. Why there's a difference I have no idea, but the hardware is markedly different.

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    When I replaced a 2009 mini (8gb RAM, SSD, ~ 2.6 GHz Core2Duo) with a 2012 mini (the one in my profile) I too experienced a big improvement in the sound.

     

    But this is a fork in the road not anticipated....using newer Apple Hardware will still compel use to be futzing around with half-baked software solutions whereas these newer appliances should be offering a superior user interface and, at least in theory, far more discreet hardware.....sheesh!!!! Time to get a turntable...shouldn't sold my Linn some time ago.

    For clarification, which version of Amarra are you guys using? Thought the interface for this software was as buggy as a stray dog, at least from reports on this site.

     

    Cheers,

    wdw

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    But this is a fork in the road not anticipated....using newer Apple Hardware will still compel use to be futzing around with half-baked software solutions whereas these newer appliances should be offering a superior user interface and, at least in theory, far more discreet hardware.....sheesh!!!!

    Trudat! I really want an appliance like the ARIES but that really sounds better than anything else. I am not sorry that I bought it and tried it, it is perfect on paper - and in reviews! But it's just not doing it for me. I will wait a little longer though, maybe a new firmware will change the outcome, but I am not that hopeful.

     

    I am SICK AND TIRED of futzing around with this. I want perfect sound in an appliance! And I would prefer a upnp/openhome type appliance because I am very picky about my library and like to have everything clean and properly tagged. In an encapsulated server (with discs inside) this is harder to do.

     

    Time to get a turntable...shouldn't sold my Linn some time ago.

    My DAC is also a CD/SACD player - and it always incredibly refreshing to pop-in a disc. I think I will get a turntable soon, but the whole process is oh-so-mo complicated.

     

    For clarification, which version of Amarra are you guys using? Thought the interface for this software was as buggy as a stray dog, at least from reports on this site.

    3.0.3. Darn Windows 3.1 interface design, sucks!

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    Chris

     

    Thanks for the review. Enjoyed reading it.

     

    Can you please write more about the sonic differences between the Aries and SSR.

    In the SSR review you have mentioned the the SSR is better than the Aires. Can you please let us know more of your thoughts on this.

     

    regards

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    Seems to me that whatever server is interfacing with your DAC is not just a simple hardware/OS/SW player. Many choices are being made my the designer/manufacturer. Apple has spent many years on perfecting the platform. The combination of hardware design and OS is not like other options, though I'd say we're finally seeing smaller firms like Aurender create a purpose built system. After all, the Mac Mini, a design that seems to reflect a server mentality, is still not purpose build for any specific type of application. Even here specialty companies need to work the open source community along with vetting device drivers for the parts they incorporate unless they've got coders working every aspect of the software. And choosing the optimal pathway to the DAC (USB, vs less popular methods) may mean that some DACs will not always sound best. I'm guessing that decisions made by server designers and DAC designers may differ in some small ways. It certainly would be great if say Berkeley would collaborate with say Aurender or Auralic or others on design/build. But that's really unlikely. Some seek to be in more than one product space. It's often a case of the tail wagging the dog, I'm afraid when it comes to getting the optimal situation for us users. In the past all we had to concern ourselves with was electrical stuff like impedance matching. Now we worry if using USB or Ethernet or ... is the right way to go in connecting to a DAC, let alone the best means of storing and transporting our music bits to the server, or keeping that inside the server. And finally there's the software player and just how it is managing its library of songs and whether it is doing its own caching of bits or not. The chase continues...

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    Seems to me that whatever server is interfacing with your DAC is not just a simple hardware/OS/SW player. Many choices are being made my the designer/manufacturer. Apple has spent many years on perfecting the platform. The combination of hardware design and OS is not like other options, though I'd say we're finally seeing smaller firms like Aurender create a purpose built system. After all, the Mac Mini, a design that seems to reflect a server mentality, is still not purpose build for any specific type of application. Even here specialty companies need to work the open source community along with vetting device drivers for the parts they incorporate unless they've got coders working every aspect of the software.

    My understanding is that this is exactly what Auralic is doing.

     

    I'm guessing that decisions made by server designers and DAC designers may differ in some small ways. It certainly would be great if say Berkeley would collaborate with say Aurender or Auralic or others on design/build. But that's really unlikely. Some seek to be in more than one product space.

    Not to mention that the Berkley Alpha RS will not do DSD at all when connected to an Aries as it requires transcoding of the DSD files to PCM - I think this is assumed to be done on JRMC for the Berkeley, and could possibly done with minimstreamer I seem to recall.

     

    It's often a case of the tail wagging the dog, I'm afraid when it comes to getting the optimal situation for us users. In the past all we had to concern ourselves with was electrical stuff like impedance matching. Now we worry if using USB or Ethernet or ... is the right way to go in connecting to a DAC, let alone the best means of storing and transporting our music bits to the server, or keeping that inside the server. And finally there's the software player and just how it is managing its library of songs and whether it is doing its own caching of bits or not. The chase continues...

    Ehhh... Sort of agree... I think the Aries is -on paper- perfect, and there's some little something there that is just not quite there yet. I think the overall architecture of something like Aries is my preferred solution, I would just like it to sound better in my system.

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    Aries is an ethernet appliance built to a price point. There are not many DLNA or OH renders at $995 or $1500 that sound better than Aries, nor have the flexibility of outputs or richness of features (Lightning app, Tidal support, external USB storage option,etc). The company behind it is well-funded and proven. That said, there are better sounding DLNA or OH renderers than Aries...but not at that price point. If you want to spend 2X go listen to a Sonore Signature Rendu, for example. Not as flexible, forced to use 3rd party OH or DLNA control points, but better sounding....of course it is 2X the price of the most expensive Aries, so this should not be a shock.

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    Aries is an ethernet appliance built to a price point. There are not many DLNA or OH renders at $995 or $1500 that sound better than Aries, nor have the flexibility of outputs or richness of features (Lightning app, Tidal support, external USB storage option,etc). The company behind it is well-funded and proven. That said, there are better sounding DLNA or OH renderers than Aries...but not at that price point. If you want to spend 2X go listen to a Sonore Signature Rendu, for example. Not as flexible, forced to use 3rd party OH or DLNA control points, but better sounding....of course it is 2X the price of the most expensive Aries, so this should not be a shock.

    Understand that. I didn't buy the Aries based on price point, there really are no other devices that do what the Aries does, at no price point that I can see.

     

    The SSR is interesting, but does not support USB (my DAC only supports DoP over USB and DSD is a must), does not support TIDAL, does not support Airplay or similar (as an alternative to TIDAL), and I'm not sure about the versatility of the iPad app to control it. So it's a mixed bag as far as I can tell.

     

    I would gladly pay for a souped up Aries that delivers the goods.

     

    Now food for thought: Why can't the entirety of the Aries functionality be delivered as software on a mini?

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    ?......there really are no other devices that do what the Aries does, at no price point that I can see....

     

    The nw Aurender N100 and N10 look very intriguing and may be likely to fit the bill. The Sonore Sig Rendu is IMHO, a tad too geeky, for a simple hifi system.

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    And the Aries hooked up to the AudioByte Hydra-Z might happen to be just what the doctor ordered compared with cost no object solutions.

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