Jump to content
  • The Computer Audiophile
    The Computer Audiophile

    JRemote - The iOS remote for JRiver Media Center Review

    thumb.jpgOver the last few years iOS remote control applications for JRiver have gradually improved. Most of the apps went from cumbersome to decent to pretty good but still not that enticing. Everything changed with the release of JRemote from Banjo Media. The app is so good it has increased the value of Windows as a music server platform as much as anything in recent memory. Many die hard Apple users have switched or have seriously considered switching to Windows solely because JRemote has surpassed Apple's Remote application by leaps and bounds. The value of a remote control application can't be overstated. It's the interface to musical enjoyment or untold frustration. A remote app should place the user in control rather than force the user to listen a certain way or enjoy music how the app developer believes music should be enjoyed. Technology shouldn't dictate how one's music collection is enjoyed and certainly shouldn't take the enjoyment out of browsing a vast collection curated meticulously for decades. JRemote's speed enables users to swipe through an entire collection or pared-down playlist with ease. Support for high resolution images and graphics on the iPhone / iPad Retina Display is also a treat for the eyes. JRemote is the remote control app by which all others are judged.[PRBREAK][/PRBREAK]

     

    1-Pixel.png

     

     

    first-img2.PNG

     

    1-Pixel.png

     

     

    JRemote For JRiver Media Center

     

    jremoteLogoHeader.pngJRemote is currently an iOS only application available through the iTunes App Store for a meager price of $9.99. A single version of the app operates on both the iPhone and iPad eliminating the need to purchase separate apps for different sized devices. The newest version of JRemote takes advantage of the iPhone 5 larger screen rather than being letterboxed like most other apps. The app also requires JRiver Media Center. It wasn't designed as a jack of all trades with compromises to support every playback platform under the sun. Unlike some remote applications JRemote doesn't require any additional software installation on the Windows music server. This cuts down on added services or programs running in the background and eliminates one more piece of software that requires updating.

     

    The speed of the JRemote interface on both iPhone and iPad is the best part about the application. The initial release of JRemote was fast but had an issue when scrolling through a library viewing the album art. The images wouldn't load until the scrolling stopped. Fortunately that was fixed long ago. Scrolling through a library with the swipe of a finger is very fast even with the images loading as one scrolls up or down. Nothing annoys me more than a slow application that can't keep pace with my scrolling speed. When I want to find an album I want to find it the way I want to find it. Scrolling through 4,000 album covers may not be the most efficient, but a good remote app should enable users to navigate any which way. JRemote succeeds in this area where others fail. The PlugPlayer and My River applications don't even come close to matching the speed of JRemote. In fact upon opening PlugPlayer one's entire library isn't visible until the app loads it in cache. Thus, it's impossible to scroll beyond the letter C in my collection without waiting a minute or two. Using JRemote I don't think about the technology or the application. I only think about my music. I may have an idea what album I'm looking for but the ease with which I can navigate via JRemote enables me to stumble upon many other recordings. I frequently forget what album I was originally seeking.

     

    JRemote's speed is also wonderful when searching a library. My library of over 50,000 tracks can be searched instantly within JRemote. Typing in my favorite band Pearl Jam instantly returns a list separated into categories identified by metadata. Standard groups such as Artist, Album Artist, Album, and Genre/Style are visible in addition to groupings by Catalog Number, UPC Code, Composer, Publisher, and Period. Again, the speed at which the search results are returned is critical and what separates mediocre apps from gray apps. Without speed I simply won't use a search feature. JRemote excels at search speed.

     

    After the search results are returned users have a number of options. In my search for Pearl Jam I found the special yellow edition of the album Ten. Pressing and holding the name of the album for a second reveals a popup menu containing the options Play all now, Play all next, Add all to playlist, Shuffle and play all, Clear playlist, and cancel. If pressing and holding and album or track or artists is too time consuming for a user JRemote has what I call a quickset menu at the top of the window when viewing the contents of an album. This menu provides users nearly all the previous press and hold options, but the option selected in this menu becomes the default behavior of a single press of the finger. For example, my quickset menu is set to Add all to playlist. Whenever I select a track within an album all tracks are added to the playlist. If I change the default quickset option to Play now the single track I select will immediately play in Jriver. Setting the preferred option in this quickset menu can shave a few seconds off one's music selection time. Over the course of a few decades that can really add up :~)

     

    A recent change to JRemote added the letter of the alphabet to the right side of the screen when viewing artists, albums, etc… This feature has long been visible on the iPhone and is much appreciated on the iPad. Pressing a letter of the alphabet displays the albums starting with that letter. That's pretty obvious. I like to browse my collection so I usually press the letter A and swipe my finger down the alphabet until I either find something interesting or get to where I was originally going. Swiping through the alphabet is quick but still provides a glimpse of the albums as they fly up or down on the screen.

     

    JRemote can also take advantage of JRiver Media Center's multi zone playback and control. Every music server running JRiver Media Center can be viewed as a Zone form within JRiver and JRemote. JRiver allows the user to control different Zones form a single interface while sitting at a computer. JRemote allows the user to control every Zone from the iPad or iPhone. Taping a little computer icon in the bottom left corner of the JRemote window brings up the Select Zone popup. The user simply selects the Zone he'd like to control. As long as it's on the network it's controllable. In addition to controlling a Zone JRemote turns the iDevice into a Zone allowing the user to stream unto 320 Kbps MP3 files directly to the device. I use this frequently at home when I don't have a lossless version of an album stored on my iPhone I use JRemote to stream the MP3 right to the phone. Other apps such as PlugPlayer and My River can do this as well, but again it all comes down to speed. JRemote is much faster than all the competition. Hands down.

     

    One feature I haven't used simply because I don't have a monitor connected to my C.A.P.S. server is the Remote touch screen within JRemote. This may come in very handy for users displaying JRiver's Theater View. The ability to have a touchscreen without really having a touchscreen (if you know what I mean) seems very cool. I imagine projecting Theater View on to a large screen between my speakers and being able to navigate like it's a touchscreen using JRemote would be very cool.

     

    fontbanner.png

     

     

    1-Pixel.png

     

     

    You Can't Please Everyone All The Time

     

    JRemote the iOS remote for JRiver Media Center isn't perfect. The app is extremely stable and does exactly what Banjo Media claims. There are four items I would love to see added or improved to JRemote. Granted Banjo Media is at the mercy of JRiver as to what can be done within the JRemote app (read only), but I will at least state my wished for improvements.

     

    1. Documentation - There is little no documentation describing the features of JRemote or how to use the app. 99% of the app is self explanatory and most people don't read documentation anyway. However, a quick guide or even video explaining items such as what I call the quickset menu. Is there a real name for the menu? Is it supposed to work how it's working for me? The trial and error method is fine for most people, but a little assistance wouldn't hurt the newbies.
      1-Pixel.png
    2. Searching specific metadata fields - I would like the ability to search in the comments field or to search only track titles for a specific word or string of words. I frequently enter data such as Mastering Engineer or Downloaded From … in the comments field of an album. Searching for this info and only this info would be a very nice feature. Searching only track titles would be really nice although I realize it's possible to simply view the search results by the track title grouping.
      1-Pixel.png
    3. Editing Metadata - I would love the ability to edit metadata directly from JRemote. I frequently scroll through albums with misspelled titles or without the proper Album Artist tag. I refuse to stop listening just to edit the tag from my computer. more often than not the tag never gets edited because i forget about the misspelling until I run into the issue all over again.
      1-Pixel.png
    4. Creating or Editing Playlists - Along the same lines as editing metadata is the ability to create and edit playlists from JRemote. It's inconvenient to do this from a computer once one has already started listening. Sure, if I'm sitting at my computer and I think of a playlist I want to create or edit it's not an issue. In the real world I'm willing to bet people are actually listening to music when they think of a good playlist to create or see one they want to edit. if all my playlist editing dreams came true JRemote would be able to do the holy grail of playlist editing. That is the ability for a user to listen to a track or find a track in the library and add that track to any existing or new playlist. For example, I have a playlist of music I use during equipment reviews. When I hear a new track I'd like to use for reviews I'd love the ability to select that track and add it to my Review Music playlist from within JRemote on my iPad.

     

    1-Pixel.png

     

    Conclusion

     

    cash-logo-black-thumb.jpgJRemote from Banjo Media has done more than provide users a nice interface with which to navigate their music collections. It has elevated Windows based music servers to a much higher level. Now that Windows servers can be controlled with a better interface than any OS X server many hard core iTunes users are considering a switch to or even adding a Windows server with JRiver and JRemote. iTunes for many users was supposed to be all about simplicity. Upon closer examination this simplicity is far less convenient for those seeking higher quality playback. Not only is JRemote a much better remote control app than Apple's Remote app, but JRiver supports nearly all file formats and changes sample rates on the fly. That's not going to happen with a stock iTunes installation. Compared to it's competition of JRiver remote control applications JRemote is in another league. Great features, great speed, and the ability to get out of the way of users listening to music are hallmarks of JRemote. Banjo Media has set the bar high for JRiver remote apps and continues to raise the bar with every free update.

     

    1-Pixel.png

     

    1-Pixel.png

     

     

    Product Information:

     

    • Product - JRemote - The iOS remote for JRiver Media Center
    • Price - $9.95
    • Product Page - Link ex.png
    • iTunes App Store - Link ex.png

     

    1-Pixel.png

     

    Associated Equipment:

     

     

     

    1-Pixel.png

     

    IMG_0085.jpg IMG_0088.jpg IMG_0114.jpg

    IMG_0091.jpg IMG_0092.jpg IMG_0093.jpg

    IMG_0094.jpg IMG_0095.jpg IMG_0096.jpg

    IMG_0098.jpg IMG_0099.jpg IMG_0100.jpg

    IMG_0101.jpg IMG_0102.jpg IMG_0103.jpg

    IMG_0104.jpg IMG_0105.jpg IMG_0106.jpg

    IMG_0107.jpg IMG_0108.jpg IMG_0109.jpg

    IMG_0110.jpg IMG_0111.jpg IMG_0112.jpg

    Click To Enlarge

     

     

     

     

    1-Pixel.png

     

     

    1-Pixel.png




    User Feedback

    Recommended Comments



    Thinking the new iPad Mini would be the perfect remote for JRiver. Still, it's a bit pricey if your main use of it is as a remote. I still wish there would be an Android version of the program. Overall I'd rather have an Android tablet.

    Share this comment


    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    I took JRemote for a spin last night on my new & fresh Macmini / bootcamp / Win7 64 / JRMC17 (+ flac :-) ) config. Damn! This is nice...... It makes headless a real pleasure. I am afraid OS-X is no longer the my default boot option.....

    Share this comment


    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    does JRMC support AIFF without problem ? If so I might be following you by moving my Mini to Win7 boot camp......

     

    I'm fed up with my inability to get ITunes running smoothly in a headless MacOS configuration (mainly probs with itunes processor loads and/or USB conflicts I think but I am struggling to work out what's exactly up).

    Share this comment


    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    Great information. Any word from Banjo if they are planning on making a version for Android?

     

    A shameless beg to Banjo, led to this reply from them (Robert Ryan)....

     

    "

    Hi......

    An android version is planned. However, due to time issues, the iOS version need a few more feature before real work can start.

    Robert

    "

     

    There is hope...

     

    Hans

    Share this comment


    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    Maybe someone can help me with this problem. I have two computers and I can access the music using JRemote on my IPAD under the “Music” folder on both C drives. Trying to figure out how to use JRemote to access:

    1. Music on the other two drives on the Rain Recording Ion computer (My C drive only has 100 GB and the other two have 500GB a piece.)

    2. Music on a hard drive connected to the Ion.

    3. Music on the other computer.

    4. Most importantly, access to music on the hard drive connected to the USB port of my Cisco Router 4500. If I can do this then the first three become irrelevant.

    I went into the Library program in the program and loaded the files from both the other computer (Paul-PC) and the hard drive on the USB port (slingshot). From reading Chris’s write-up somehow I have to assign zones to these servers which will then show up on the IPAD. I see how to add zones under the Player but not how to assign it to a server.

    Posted a similar question this on J Rivers forum, no help yet.

    I am continuously frustrated by this program; it is really geared for a computer expert not a novice. As Chris said about JRemote: “there is little no documentation describing the features of JRemote or how to use the app.” They expect everyone to search their database and forum for answers which

    I have done.

    Last night it wouldn’t play any music, said the files were incompatible although two minutes earlier I had been playing music. So I uninstalled it (Version 17) this morning and tried to reinstall it. I tried to restore it using the access code. I received the message that it needed a program to open the mjr file. Not sure why my computer software doesn’t have this. Anyway I saw on the internet that notepad would open it but all it does is show me a text file. All the other programs that state they can open mjr files have to be purchased from what I can tell.

    So I have now downloaded Version 18 for a 30 day trial just to get some music. Interestingly Version 18 opened right up without messages about mjr files.

    Share this comment


    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    Chris,

     

    Based on your review and all the glowing comments I recently purchased JRemote. It does seem to have a lot of potential but apparently the latest release is extremely buggy and unstable. Recent reviews on the App Store are mostly only 1 or 2 stars because of all the problems. It appears that it has been in this state since the beginning of December. My experience with it is that it crashes very frequently and the screen to change the play more (e.g. shuffle, unshuffled, play next, etc.) is a black hole. Once you're on that screen, you can't leave and you have to kill the app. I was wondering if you've tried the most recent version and if you are seeing these same problems. I'm running it on an iPhone5.

     

    I'm hoping Banjo fixes it soon, because it certainly has some great features and I'd love to use it.

     

    Thanks,

    John

    Share this comment


    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    Hello,

     

    I've set my JRMC17 to show my Artists/Albums by years instead of A-Z. It works well on JRMC but doesn't show It that way on JRemote (JRemote still shows A-Z instead of years).

     

    Anyone knows how to change that please?

     

    Thanks!

    Share this comment


    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    AWESOME! I am getting an ipad just because of this and garageband :D

    Share this comment


    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    I was excited about using a remote control for JRiver 18 ruining on a Windows server 2012. I bought and installed JRemote on an iPad. I first tried to install it using an IP address. I realized I did not know what ports JRemote used. I then installed using the JRiver key and Jriver opened the ports for JRemote to use. It connected immediately and I was able to browse music by alphabet. It displayed a nice picture of what was running. The problem started with listening to the music. The treble had a steely sound so bad I could only listen to 2 songs and then I removed JRemote. I am not sure what happened but somehow JRemote in my system is affecting the sound. Jremote seemed functionally a great remote easy to read but sonically for me not good at all.

    Share this comment


    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    check if your jriver is set to convert the files while streaming. It may be a flac on your pc for instance then on your ipad it is playing a low bitrate mp3 of the same song

    Share this comment


    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    I was excited about using a remote control for JRiver 18 ruining on a Windows server 2012. I bought and installed JRemote on an iPad. I first tried to install it using an IP address. I realized I did not know what ports JRemote used. I then installed using the JRiver key and Jriver opened the ports for JRemote to use. It connected immediately and I was able to browse music by alphabet. It displayed a nice picture of what was running. The problem started with listening to the music. The treble had a steely sound so bad I could only listen to 2 songs and then I removed JRemote. I am not sure what happened but somehow JRemote in my system is affecting the sound. Jremote seemed functionally a great remote easy to read but sonically for me not good at all.

    JRemote simply reads the JRMC database and send control commands to the app. I'm guessing something else is playing a larger role.

    Share this comment


    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    Absolutely the first time I have heard that. There is no installation of JRemote on your Windows JRMC system by the way. It simply uses the JRMC media network facilities. I wonder if you have a wireless card or something in your PC that is causing major issues? Bluetooth can do that on a Mac Mini by the way.

     

    -Paul

     

     

    I was excited about using a remote control for JRiver 18 ruining on a Windows server 2012. I bought and installed JRemote on an iPad. I first tried to install it using an IP address. I realized I did not know what ports JRemote used. I then installed using the JRiver key and Jriver opened the ports for JRemote to use. It connected immediately and I was able to browse music by alphabet. It displayed a nice picture of what was running. The problem started with listening to the music. The treble had a steely sound so bad I could only listen to 2 songs and then I removed JRemote. I am not sure what happened but somehow JRemote in my system is affecting the sound. Jremote seemed functionally a great remote easy to read but sonically for me not good at all.

    Share this comment


    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    Yes there could be something going on that I’m not aware of. There is no wireless card in my music PC. The iPad talks to a Cisco wireless AP. The AP feeds a Cisco switch. The Cisco router is not involved since the iPad and music server are in the same network. It is all level 2 traffic. Feeding music files from my RAID5 server does not have this same problem as using Jremote. Are you saying that nobody has seen this problem?

     

    My music files are almost all wave files ripped with dbpower amp. Out 15000+ files less than 10 are flac and not one of the files I played.

    Share this comment


    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    Feeding music files from my RAID5 server does not have this same problem as using Jremote.

    Can you elaborate a bit more on this. I'm guessing it's semantics, but I don't understand the difference between your raid5 server and using JRemote.

    Share this comment


    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    I have a Home server 2011 setup with a 6 drive RAID5 in the same rack as the switch. The music from the server passes through the same switch across the same cat5 to my music server. I am trying to decide whether to store music local or feed them from my RAID server.

    Jremote and the RAID5 server are not related other than they cross a lot of the same network path.

    Share this comment


    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    I have a Home server 2011 setup with a 6 drive RAID5 in the same rack as the switch. The music from the server passes through the same switch across the same cat5 to my music server. I am trying to decide whether to store music local or feed them from my RAID server.

    Jremote and the RAID5 server are not related other than they cross a lot of the same network path.

    OK. So you have a mapped drive from your music server to the Home Server's RAID5 drive.

     

    And, you have two methods of playback control?

     

    1. Direct control via keyboard, mouse, and monitor.

    2. Using JRemote to control Media Center on the same server as in number 1. above.

     

    3. What about VNC?

    Share this comment


    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    Yes to 1 and 2. No I do not have VNC installed. Server 2012 with only Jriver and nothing else installed. I also have now turned off the remote access piece in Jriver.

    Share this comment


    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    check if your jriver is set to convert the files while streaming. It may be a flac on your pc for instance then on your ipad it is playing a low bitrate mp3 of the same song
    ^^^ again this one. Take a look at the settings in the networking section it should have an advanced area there with a setting to convert your lossless files to lossy files while streaming. You might have it set as mp3 96kbps or something like that.

    Share this comment


    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    I just checked and it looks like it is set to auto convert and mp3 high bandwidth. Should I set it to PCM 24 bit? I will give it a go tomorrow. So it sounds like the wave files are being feed to the iPad and then back to the server?

    Share this comment


    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    I just checked and it looks like it is set to auto convert and mp3 high bandwidth. Should I set it to PCM 24 bit? I will give it a go tomorrow. So it sounds like the wave files are being feed to the iPad and then back to the server?

    No. The iPad is just a traffic director. Nothing flows through the iPad. The streaming settings are only if you stream to the iPad for listening through the iPad. The conversion settings in JRMC are for DLNA streaming.

    Share this comment


    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    I don't want to DLNA stream. Is that what was happening? How should I setup Jremote not to stream? I just took the defaults.

    Share this comment


    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    I don't want to DLNA stream. Is that what was happening? How should I setup Jremote not to stream? I just took the defaults.

    You're not streaming. Don't worry.

    Share this comment


    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    Previously my iPad connected perfectly with iPeng to my Squeezebox Touch, so no weird network issues. The SBT is gone and has been replaced with the CAPS Carbon which is now working perfectly, and I have downloaded the JRemote app.

     

    In MC 19, I have ticked, Use Media Network to share this library and enable DLNA. This has assigned my Access Key. In the JRemote set up, I tried connecting with the Access Key, but nothing happens after clicking Done on the iPad keyboard, so no message, error, nothing. The same exact thing happens when I try connecting with the IP Address option. The iPad accesses the Internet just fine.

     

    Am I missing something?

    Share this comment


    Link to comment
    Share on other sites

    By the way, I just saw this one here....

     

    "Streaming media

     

    JRemote lets you stream all your media to the device itself. Just select This device as the current zone.

    Audio files are streamed in selectable quality ranging from 128kbbs to 320kbps mp3.

    Video files are limited to files using MPEG-4 encoding."

     

    So is this true even for the latest version of Jremote? All audio will be transcoded to mp3??? I made my files into 200kbps oggs so that they could stream easily vs flac but if it gets transcoded to mp3 again from the ogg file then that will be no good. This is the last thing that is keeping me from buying this app. All I really want it for is for streaming all my music on the pc to the ipad without transcoding if that is possible.

    Share this comment


    Link to comment
    Share on other sites




    Guest
    This is now closed for further comments




×
×
  • Create New...