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    Notes From a Disconnected Axpona

    This is not a show report. 

     

    I'm well aware that show reports are great click bait and drive a large amount of traffic, but I'm just not feeling it right now. I've been dreading writing something about Axpona all week. Not because I didn't have a good time at the show. I've been hesitant because I had a really good time at the show and it didn't revolve around 99.9% of the rooms and equipment on display. Writing show reports with sonic assessments and pretty equipment pictures doesn't excite me (for the most part). Noisy hotel rooms and really bad acoustics don't lead to good conditions for listening to music and assessing equipment. Kid yourself all you want, I'm just stating the facts. Some rooms at the show were a breath of fresh air, where sonic assessments were possible. I'll get to those in a bit. What I really want to discuss is a huge disconnect between consumers and "the industry." 

     

    First, a little background. At 5:30 PM on the first day of the show, I ran into CA contributor ted_b. He mentioned that a group of people from the CA community were meeting in the bar and he invited me to attend. Of course I was all in. This is the best part of my job, meeting the people with which I have so much in common and those who make this job possible. Over the course of an hour we all struggled to get words in because there was so much to discuss. I felt like these guys were friends I hadn't seen in twenty years. 

     

    We discussed a couple rooms that were enjoyable and a couple components on our recommended lists. However, for much of the conversation we all talked about music. And here's the disconnect, nobody talked about Diana Krall, Rebecca Pidgeon, or the latest quad DSD or 24/384 recording of a guy beating tree trunks with Japanese urushi drumsticks. If you like that stuff, I'm very happy for you because you'll be in heaven at a HiFi show. We all talked about music made by the likes of David Bowie, Bruce Springsteen, Blind faith, Radiohead, Led Zeppelin, Pearl Jam, and Prince. I have to ask, why is it that none of these artists graced a single playlist in any of the rooms in which I visited?

     

    Talk about disconnect. Not only did our group of people enjoy "real" music rather than stereotypical audiophile crap, so did many of the people I talked to within the industry. I can't count how many times I've been told by people putting on demonstrations, that they'd rather stick pencils in their necks than listen to Hugh Masekela one more time. Here's a tip - STOP PLAYING IT! 

     

    Why does the industry cater to one segment of consumers, to the detriment of all others? HiFi is a small niche. Within this niche is another niche of people who like traditional audiophile music. As an industry we cater to to that niche within a niche, yet we complain about not attracting more civilians to our hobby. Hello! When is the last time you visited an unpleasant place and thought, "I should go back there again." An audio show where people bring significant others and children, should be about reaching out, not fighting over the last members of a dying breed (literally). 

     

    After the second day of the show, I met up with a longtime member of the CA community, who was actually in attendance at the Computer Audiophile Symposium at Fantasy Studios in Berkeley, CA back in 2009. It was great to talk with him about the show and all things HiFi. It was interesting to hear his opinion about entering the rooms and listening to whatever music was playing. He is a shy guy and didn't feel comfortable asking for specific music. Some of us who have been to way too many HiFi shows are totally fine with playing our own music, but I don't think we are in the majority. Why does the industry make people feel that playing Beyonce at a HiFi show is sacrilegious? I told this member of the CA community that I played Beyonce's Formation in the Quintessence Audio room on the 12th floor, and he sounded excited but a little sad that he missed it or couldn't do so himself. 

     

    Another item we discussed is value in HiFi and the prices of equipment. Neither of us have an issue with high priced equipment or even stratospherically priced equipment. Manufacturers only build what customers want and if customers can afford it, that's excellent. Heck, I wish I could afford more of the stuff about which I write. I relayed a story about the time I was fresh out of college in the late 1990s and saw/heard a pair of B&W Nautilus 802 loudspeakers at a local dealer for the first time. The speakers were $8,000. I was an aspirational buyer at the time, with a job that didn't put me in the top tax bracket. I started putting money away and months later I purchased a pair of the 802s. I remember it like yesterday. 

     

    Sure $8,000 is a lot of money, but it was an obtainable amount for a guy working in IT right out of college (without kids or a house payment). Without objective data to support my opinion, I expressed that I thought much of HiFi was beyond the reach of aspirational buyers today. After the conversation I pulled up an inflation calculator to compare what the adjusted price of the 802 speakers would be in today's dollars and the current retail price. I realized this wasn't a longitudinal study and was full of irregularities, but it would give me one data point. I believe I bought the speakers in 1999 for $8,000. In today's dollars that would be $11,727 according to this calculator. The MSRP of a new pair of B&W 802 D3 loudspeakers in 2017 is $22,000. I have a hard time believing that a version of me, fresh out of college today, could even be an aspirational buyer of the B&W 802s. 

     

    Our discussion also touched on value. Value is a tough one because it's so subjective. A value for me isn't a value for my neighbor. However, this doesn't mean the subject is off limits. I don't mind spending a lot of money on something if there is perceived value. Streaming a couple movies on a private jet over the Atlantic ocean for $10,000 in data charges has no value to me (true story, not my money). Spending the same amount of money to put local storage of movies in that same jet has much more value. Ten grand is pocket change to some people, but those people don't like to waste money any more than me. 

     

    The $2,299 Schiit Audio Yggdrasil doesn't cost a lot of money for many people in this hobby, but it's more money that most civilians have in the bank. By most standards it's expensive, but I also consider it an incredible value. On the other hand, there are components and speakers that combine to make systems at or above $1,000,000. I completely understand the cost of goods made in small quantities, and the value of exclusivity etc... but comparing all the items one million dollars could purchase, makes me struggle to find value in a $1,000,000 audio system. A couple houses, a few Ferraris, a few outstanding college educations, etc... I would probably be much more inclined to see value in such an expensive audio system if I heard a demonstration and it was the best system I'd ever heard. Not the best system by 90%, but just the best system period. Even if it was only 5% better than a much cheaper system. At Axpona, there were some systems that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. I won't judge them based on the terrible show conditions, but based on my experience I can say there is little value in these systems as a whole. 


    Another disconnect I ran into at the show involved me sitting through 30 minutes of misinformation from a manufacturer. I entered his room, interested in a new product. There were other people listening to music and asking questions when I entered. I quietly sat on the side and listened to the conversations until I was asked a specific question, to which I gave an honest answer. The manufacturer was going on and on about how USB is the worst interface and he couldn't even listen to music through USB. Then he started in with DSD versus PCM and how one was clearly superior. Then he honestly told people that Tidal compressed the dynamic range of music more than the CD of the same music. As if someone at Tidal remastered millions of albums, but was able to somehow keep them bit-identical to the CD versions (I've tested this). This guy wasn't talking about data compression and FLAC, he was talking about dynamic range compression. I know this because he later went into data compression and why it's also the devil. 

     

    The bottom line is this, we had one guy telling people everything they are doing is wrong. Not only this, but he was using alternative facts to justify his statements. I don't care if he isn't a fan of USB interfaces. I do care that he was spewing misinformation to people who will spread that misinformation and cause others to waste money on needless upgrades and very possibly get turned off of this hobby eventually because of this crap. Misinformation isn't a successful longterm strategy.  

     

    In this same room, I had a writer from another publication engage me in a conversation about MQA. I don't remember who he was or what publication he wrote for and chances are good he has no idea who I am or what publication for which I write. No biggie. Anyway, this guy was 100% certain that MQA was first decoded by the USB interface, in addition to other things. I tried to provide some information about how MQA works and that USB has nothing to do with MQA, but he wasn't hearing any of it. In his mind he was right and he was there to spread the word. It was awkward in that room. Between the main conversations and my side conversation, I was turned off. Things like this don't happen in every room, but they happen more often that most people could imagine. It's things like this that are draining and they get old. This was an audio show. A pinnacle of HiFi performance where people from the area gather once per year to hear and see the best in the world, and talk amongst like-minded individuals. We should stop complaining about flaws in technologies such as USB, as if all other technologies are flawless, or the difficulty of computer networking, and start leading as an industry. Give people what they pay for and show them how to get the best out of any technology. Right now, I'm willing to bet the local Best Buy offers a better experience than Axpona and many HiFi shops. Networking and computers aren't the antithesis of audio and music reproduction. They aren't rocket science either. In 30 minutes the kid at best buy could have someone setup with a working wireless network and an audio system. It may not be the best, but it's better than the system the HiFi industry complains about and pushes away as if it's leprosy. OK, that was a little side rant that could the subject of an entire editorial, but I'll save it for another day.  


    Let's talk about the good times at Axpona. First and foremost, I enjoyed the Quintessence Audio room on the 12th floor (straight off the elevators), more than all other rooms combined. The room featured Dynaudio Contour 60 loudspeakers and a serious stack of Moon by Simaudio components. The digital source was an Aurender. The team at Quintessence really setup the room well, enabling people to hear the system more than the acoustics of the room. One afternoon the guys in the room let me control the playlist for what seemed like an hour. I kept queuing up tracks and listening like I was at home. Playing all my favorite music. Sure, a few people walked in and were scared off by Iggy Azalea's latest single Mo Bounce, but I would have been scared off by their Nils Lofgren albums had the situation been reversed. I played everything from Pearl Jam to Peter, Paul and Mary. I really liked how everything sounded in this room. The Moon gear was wonderful as usual. I really think the Dynaudio Contour 60 loudspeakers offer a great value and should have a long life for the company. Yes they are $10,000, but the equivalent speakers from other brands are double that price. 

     

    Imagine if civilian show-goers could have had the same fun experience that I had in the Quintessence room rather than disturbing the peace by walking in on a 32/768 kHz rendition of Kazakhstan Wind Chimes being listened to by some reviewer who has been in the business since I was nine years old, who expects the world to stop when he is listening. This isn't far from what I experienced at Axpona. A reviewer asked if anyone could name the music he played and some guy said, "that wasn't music!" He was right, it was a bunch of banging on things in high resolution. If people like that stuff, no worries. It's just not the kind of stuff that the people I know like and it's certainly not the kind of stuff that will attract anyone to this hobby. 

     

    Another room I really enjoyed featured Doshi analog components, dCS digital components, and Wilson Audio Yvette loudspeakers with Transparent cabling throughout. The system was setup well, even though the room was less than ideal. Nick Doshi was playing some jazz through the dCS gear, and I was mesmerized. I have no clue what album it was or even who the artist was, but I sat there enjoying the whole thing. It was an old school jazz club recording with stand-up bass and drums and improvisation. Great stuff. I remember listening and thinking that I needed to consider Doshi components and the Yvette loudspeakers in my system (the dCS is already here). That's how powerful good music is on a good system. I really hope civilians had the same experience in that room. After several minutes of the great jazz album, another guy working the room said he had some Donal Fagan queued up. I couldn't help but to speak up to say I was completely satisfied with the current track and that I'd heard Donald Fagan about 1000 times at shows in the past. Thus, I'd rather not hear Morph the Cat again. Anyway, this room was a blast that made me rethink my current system.  

     

     

    Wrap-up

     

    I'm not holier than thou. I don't care why you are into this hobby. For music, for gear, or to spend all the money you inherited or married into, is of no concern to me. I honestly really don't care. I'm the most nonjudgemental person you'll ever meet. If you like HiFi because it looks cool and impresses your friends, I am honestly happy because it's making you happy. This editorial wasn't meant as an indictment on the motives of my fellow audiophiles. Rather, it was to express a little frustration about a big disconnect in the industry. Axpona wasn't the cause and wasn't the first place I witnessed this disconnect. It just sparked me to write this editorial. Perhaps the time spent with a few really smart guys in the industry sparked me to write this as well. There are a few guys in the industry who aren't clinging to the old way of doing business and who have great vision for the future. These guys inspired me at Axpona and made me realize this wonderful hobby will survive, but not in its current form. 

     

    People in the industry should ask themselves if they are having fun at these audio shows. The chances are high that the answer would be no. If they aren't having fun, how do they expect potential customers to have fun? As an industry, can we cater to more demographics than those on deck for the nursing home? That's not a slight against older people. I tell my five year old daughter all the time that older people are the best because they have so much experience and so many good stories from which she can learn. As an industry, can we cater to the music lover who is capable of talking about music with other people over a few beers at the bar, in addition to the guy with literally 10 CDs (5 of them different versions of Jazz at the Pawnshop)? 

     

    Let's close the gap between HiFi and everyone else on the planet. Music is a universal language that brings people together, unless it has been outlawed by those who see its power to change the world. 

     

     

     

    P.S. After writing this I questioned whether it should be published. I don't want to be seen as just another guy in the industry ranting about the industry. The industry is full of blowhards who do a great job of this already. Hopefully others will see at least a tiny bit of value in this editorial or at least get some enjoyment out of it or make a connection with some of my experiences. Please remember. I'm in this for the long haul. It's a marathon, not a sprint. I'm not the Minister of Information. I'm here for you, you aren't here for me. 




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    On 4/28/2017 at 8:36 PM, boatheelmusic said:

    "David Bowie, Bruce Springsteen, Blind faith, Radiohead, Led Zeppelin, Pearl Jam, and Prince"

     

    Why in the world would anyone sully a high-end system with this rubbish?

     

    You've missed Chris' point. Here and in your subsequent responses, you've argued against Chris' view for two reasons:

     

    1. This music is not good music (it's rubbish)

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    2. This music is old-fashioned and tired - it's classic rock/"rawk" that's been remastered and reissued over and over.

     

    Intentionally or not, you've omitted his mention of Beyonce and Iggy Azalea. I'm only a mild fan of the former, and not at all a fan of the latter. But when you ignore those two - along with the fact that Radiohead is not 40 year-old "rawk" and hasn't been reissued a million times - you miss the fact that Chris wasn't arguing that "good" music should be played at these shows. Rather, he was arguing that popular music should be played - not just "pop" or mainstream music, but "popular" in the sense that the event's attendees want to hear it, whatever it might be. 

     

    So his point also is that it's very unlikely that your music - or music you like - is playing played there either, because the music is chosen to maximally showcase the technical strengths of the equipment, rather than for maximum enjoyment and engagement of the attendees and prospective customers and enthusiasts. I haven't been to a hi-fi show in many years, but despite that I still have vivid memories of the typical narrow selection of nature sounds, classical standards (Tchaikovsky's 1812 - the cannons!), super-clean fusion jazz, the occasional Steely Dan track, and so on.


    So while your status as a musician certainly gives you a special perspective, that doesn't relieve you of the responsibility to properly follow the logic of an argument that you want to respond to.

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    4 hours ago, Jud said:

    Let's think about a manufacturer more along the lines of what you were talking about, Spectral.  They don't have many dealers and don't sell online.  But do you think they would want to make product demonstration in hundreds of remote locations a core company function?  They'd probably want to hire staff to do that in various locations around the country - but hey, if they already have a few dealers, that's what they're there for, right?

     

    Interesting that you mention Spectral, as they are one of the manufacturers I was thinking of.  Spectral is a San Francisco Bay Area Peninsula-based company, but the only Spectral dealer I'm aware of is in downtown San Francisco.  Another Bay Area brand is Magico, the high-end speaker company.  The local Magico dealer is Tone Audio, also in San Francisco.  But the Spectral dealer does't carry Magico and vice versa.  I originally bougfht much of my system from Future Sound in Burlingame.  They happen to carry the Magneplanars, Lexicon, and Levinson components that make up a big part of my system, but of course they carry neither Spectral nor Magico.  Another great local audio store, Audio High in Mountainview, carries Chord, Meridian, KEF, Vienna Acoustics and Devialet, but no Magnepans, Magicos, Specrals or Levinsons.  

     

    If that's the situation in San Francisco, I can only imagine what it's like across most of the less densely populated parts of the country. 

     

    Interestingly, when I was auditioning a high-end speaker at one of these stores, I commented to the owner that although we were listening to it in his largest audition room, there were certain irritating qualities I had not expected from this speaker.  His response: "I don't disagree with you, but I have these same speakers at my home and they don't have those characteristics there." 

     

    So I can't help but wonder what it would cost to have a single large FedEx style truck filled with samples from each of these local manaufacturers that simply moved around the Bay Area, making appointments, and demonstrated these products in your own home.  Would I spend $1000 on such an appointment? Yes, if I knew that the cost of the appointment would be deducted from whatever I bought and that "dealer" carried enough different brands that I was pretty sure I'd buy one of them.  

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    Excellent piece Chris. I didn't attend Axpona this year but feel the same way attending many audio shows. I get into trouble when I call out a manufacturer's BS or outright lies. There are good rooms to be sure. There are some guys who always have great sounding rooms and others who always disappoint. Price is not determinative. I have always shopped for value which is why I have the Yggy. My equipment is rather old in the tooth but when I compare the sound I get with newer stuff, I keep what I have. That is the dirty little secret in this hobby. There are 20 year old amps and preamps that sound as good as stuff that is brand new. Too many speakers are way to bright too. Detail yes, but at the expense of fatigue. And yes, far too many rooms are way too loud. When they are, I just walk out. If they are playing music at 100 db I can't take them seriously. I also always have jazz with me from the 50's. People always seem to like it.

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    12 hours ago, Paul R said:

    I was almost convinced to buy them, not even knowing what they were - which  turned out to be B&W 805 D3s. I didn't expect them to be that, mainly because I heard them in a Magnolia (Best Buy) listening room. Of course, when I heard the model, and knew the price was $6K, I decided to think it over a little bit. That one over wife's objection - she wanted to buy them. :)  

     

    it was purely that they seemed priced above their value. My view of their value that is, not someone else's.  I have a little regret I didn't buy them, but that would lead to another whole round of upgraditis I think...

    I say get the B&Ws! I recently got the 804 D3s and they are wonderful. They have totally transformed my system. I have them paired with a couple JL Audio Fathom 110s and they are a great pairing. Love them! 

     

    And Chris, thank you for that refreshingly honest appraisal of your experience. I've never been to an audio show but would like to at some point. I'd love to use it as a means of scouting out future purchases. Although in the end, I think I'd more like to go to have a few drinks with you and the other CA patrons and talk about our hobby than listen to Patricia Freaking Barber, that's for sure!

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    7 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

     

    Oh how blasphemous :~)

     

    Don't tell anyone.

     

    At least I am not listening on my rubbish Zu speakers...

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    10 hours ago, JoeWhip said:

    I also always have jazz with me from the 50's. People always seem to like it.

     

    Oh, so *you're* the guy.

     

    ;)

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    13 hours ago, sdolezalek said:

    Spectral is a San Francisco Bay Area Peninsula-based company, but the only Spectral dealer I'm aware of is in downtown San Francisco.

     

    On the east coast there are Goodwin's High End near Boston and Overture in Delaware (no sales tax!) near Philadelphia that I'm aware of, but yeah, not a big dealer network.

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    On 4/30/2017 at 9:00 PM, sdolezalek said:

    Chris:  I think you have described a significant business opportunity the audio industry may never recognize.  Music is a very personal taste. Good sound is highly room dependent.  But audio shows insist on selling their products by playing music that doesn't appeal to a majority of their market in rooms that make most systems sound bad, and if they sounded good in that hotel room, probably wouldn't in your living room.

     

    The headphone industry has solved both of these problems; a) they have eliminated the room as an issue and b) they allow you to just bring your music library with you and audition whatever you want.

     

    Why hasn't anyone been able to do this with traditional audio? Couldn't you build a business that comes to my house, allows me to demo a range of systems in my own room and using Tidal or other hi-res streaming, allow me to hear whatever I want on that system in the room where it will stay? Rather than individual manufacturers trying to offer subscale and costly demo programs, what if there was a service that offered 20-30 different systems and was capable enough to make on-the-fly choices about what might please a particular customer? 

     

    Maybe it's that many manufacturers fear that in such a listening environment, their expensive systems might not fare so well against much more moderately priced systems better suited for and adjusted to the customer's listening space and music habits? 

     

    That business plan sounds like a recipe for losing a LOT of money. 

    Where on earth are there that many people looking for a high end music system?  And you just know that every potential customer will want that one certain component that you don't have and that it will kill the deal because they just HAVE to hear it in the context of all the other parts you just brought to their home.

     

    That sounds like a nightmare job. 

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    Thanks for the article Chris.

     

    It is truly refreshing to have a journalist (or influencer or what should we call you?) state his point of view without ambiguity.

    It is so annoying to read again and again these articles which basically say nothing because the author doesn't want to be in conflict with anyone or close any door.

    Whether one shares your ideas or not is secondary to me. At least ideas are on the table and they don't seem to be coming from anyone but you.

     

    BTW, many have also experienced that situation when, after visiting dozens of rooms stacked with high level material, one suddenly sits down and listens to music, not a system, not sound quality, not a brand, not a room, just music. It doesn't happen often (I experience it in less than 5 rooms in a show like Munich) but it's definitely worth the bother. That is, until you start considering having these systems in your own room... :-)

     

     

     

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    On 4/30/2017 at 7:33 PM, AudioDoctor said:

    Zu Audio always has a fun room I am told.

    I've always heard the same thing, but sadly, they were not at Axpona. I was really hoping to meet Sean in person. He's a great guy who I've had a number of great conversations with, by phone.

     

    JC

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    On 5/1/2017 at 4:08 AM, semente said:

     

    But rubbish speakers...

    We've been through this before. It is your personal opinion, to which you are entitled. It is however, based on an old and outdated situation, and a measurement by someone whose own reviewer did not agree with him. Just be aware that a negative opinion of Zu speakers is one held by very, very few others, including many expert audio commentators. Reviews overwhelmingly award plaudits to Zu. I personally know of five owners of their speakers ( I am not an owner, but once was), all experienced audiophiles, who are extremely happy with them. The Audio Doctor here on CA owns a pair of their extremely highly rated Zu Druid V's, which I have personally auditioned, at length, and found superb. Perhaps he can chime in here. I've included a couple links, including one where these speakers were chosen as speaker of the year!

     

    https://www.cnet.com/news/audiophiliac-speaker-of-the-year-zu-druid-v/

     

    http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue76/zu_druid.htm

     

    JC

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    I didn't really feel like responding to him with much gusto.  They are fantastic speakers IMO. The Druids are the second pair I have owned.

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    28 minutes ago, TubeLover said:

    I've always heard the same thing, but sadly, they were not at Axpona. I was really hoping to meet Sean in person. He's a great guy who I've had a number of great conversations with, by phone.

     

    JC

     

    He can talk music, not audiophile crap, for ages!

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    4 hours ago, TubeLover said:

    We've been through this before. It is your personal opinion, to which you are entitled. It is however, based on an old and outdated situation, and a measurement by someone whose own reviewer did not agree with him. Just be aware that a negative opinion of Zu speakers is one held by very, very few others, including many expert audio commentators. Reviews overwhelmingly award plaudits to Zu. I personally know of five owners of their speakers ( I am not an owner, but once was), all experienced audiophiles, who are extremely happy with them. The Audio Doctor here on CA owns a pair of their extremely highly rated Zu Druid V's, which I have personally auditioned, at length, and found superb. Perhaps he can chime in here. I've included a couple links, including one where these speakers were chosen as speaker of the year!

     

    https://www.cnet.com/news/audiophiliac-speaker-of-the-year-zu-druid-v/

     

    http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue76/zu_druid.htm

     

    JC

     

    I don't care about reviews.

    And the measurements show rubbish performance, it's not even mid-fi.

     

    R

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    17 minutes ago, PlayAnyKey said:

    Great post, keep up the out-of-the-box perspective! I'll pass it along to some friends...

     

    Thanks M. :~)

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    On ‎29‎/‎04‎/‎2017 at 1:36 AM, boatheelmusic said:

    "David Bowie, Bruce Springsteen, Blind faith, Radiohead, Led Zeppelin, Pearl Jam, and Prince"

     

    Why in the world would anyone sully a high-end system with this rubbish?

    By coincidence, last weekend I did actually sully my 'high end' system with much Bowie, Radiohead and Led Zeppelin.

     

    Why?  Because I enjoy their music.  Which is kind of the point, I have spent more money than is perhaps wise on hifi for the sole purpose of listening to music that I like to listen to.  I am fully aware that some of the music I listen to does not reflect my system in it's best light, but I choose music I want to listen too, not music that will somehow maximise the talent of my system. 

     

    Very often an hifi shows (I went to three in the UK last year) I find it difficult to get interested in some systems that are being demonstrated because they are playing music that is just too far different to what I listen too in order to make any judgement.   I want to hear what something sounds like playing the kind of music I listen too, because that would be my intended use if I purchased. In the UK, inoffensive jazz appears to be the thing at the moment.  I have nothing whatsoever against jazz, so that is fine, but the lack of variety of styles and genres is a problem I think.  Oddly enough, at one show I went to recently PMC were playing a very interesting selection of music in their demonstration room, some contemporary stuff, rock tracks, some 60's rock and roll (?) even some Kraftwerk (possibly because Krafwerk are associated with PMC?), but certainly a range of music that I could connect with far more than I was hearing anywhere else at the show.  Anyway, the point is that the PMC room was rammed all day, all seats taken, people standing up at the back of the room.  It was not that busy in the majority of the rooms.  I think a lot of hif manufactures are missing a trick, it must be very expensive exhibiting at shows, so why alienate potential customers by doing demonstrations that a significant proportion of the show attendees will not be interested in? 

     

    Anyway, I am now worried that I haven't sullied my high-end system quite enough recently, I think I'll see how it sounds with a bit of Technohead later, you never know, it might be fun!

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    Chris,

    I enjoyed your thoughts here and don't see it as a rant at all.  I was at Axpona on Friday and Saturday, too bad I didn't bump into you!

     

    I especially agree with your thoughts about the value of extremely expensive systems.   I listened to some and enjoyed them but was much happier listening to some of the nice sounding systems with at least some components that I could actually afford--it keeps my hopes up that I can continuously improve my system.   

     

     

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    Certainly glad you gave publishing this some thought but everything resonated with me. 

     

    I took some non-audio but music fanatics to the California Audio Show a few years back; these guys listen to music on earbuds and AVR/bookshelf speakers.

     

    It was SO interesting to see them returning to the same two or three rooms where the systems offered obvious value but also where the audiophile show canon was absent. They were just bored when I dragged them into a $150,000 room where a log drum recording played endlessly.

     

    One room my pals would not leave featured Avantegarde speakers and seemed to be a sanctuary for those of us who love the 4AD label and the like.

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    On May 2, 2017 at 7:34 AM, realhifi said:

     

    That business plan sounds like a recipe for losing a LOT of money. 

    Where on earth are there that many people looking for a high end music system?  And you just know that every potential customer will want that one certain component that you don't have and that it will kill the deal because they just HAVE to hear it in the context of all the other parts you just brought to their home.

     

    That sounds like a nightmare job. 

     

    Well, yeah, but... it is a cool idea. Whomever could pull it off would probably have to hold very limited stock of course, but 20-30 listening rooms would be heaven to me. :)

     

    -Paul 

     

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    Very well said Chris. I enthusiastically agree with you. This hobby will eventually die if younger generations don't show an interest. I am 36 and work at an audio store in Michigan  I am definitely the youngest audiophile in my local circle. My close friends (who are not audiophiles) enjoy listening to my system when they visit my home. They usually want to hear popular tracks from the 80's and 90's. Playing music that they enjoy has convinced them to buy decent audio gear. When I enter room after room at shows such as CES and AXPONA, I personally have a hard time getting past the tired demo tracks no matter how great the gear is. Thank You for writing this piece Chris. It is a subject that has been long overdue.

     

    Patrick 

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