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    Music Storage, New Music, Remote Access, and a Cool Streamer Project

    Hey hey hey CA, this week I had plans to publish a completely different article, but sometimes Spacely Sprockets throws a wrench into Cogswell Cogs business plan. In other words, Schiit happens. 

     

    Anyway, I have a pressing storage issue that requires some input from the CA Community. I found some new music, of which I can't get enough. I'm working on a remote access article to help people trying to access Roon remotely. And, I have a cool streamer project I'd like to start, but want some input from the Community on as well. 

     

     


    Music Storage

     

     

    Let's start with the music storage issue. As discussed in the forum a little while back, Amazon is discontinuing it's $60 per year unlimited Amazon Cloud Drive storage plan. My current "contract" expired August 25th. This is a real pain for me because I have 14.8 terabytes stored on a Synology NAS, that is automatically backed up to Amazon Cloud Drive. When I add new music to my NAS, it is copied to Amazon without me having to touch anything or kick off a process. I guess when something is too good to be true, it is too good to be true. 

     

    Amazon's new storage plans range from $11.99 for 100GB to $1799.70 for 30TB of space. Given my need for 14.8TB, I'd need to spend $1199.80 per year for the 20TB plan. I'm just not willing to rent disk space for that much money.

     

    I've started researching new solutions but haven't found a 1 to 1 replacement of Amazon Cloud Drive. A couple features that I really like about Amazon Cloud Drive are 1) My Synology NAS has built in support for auto-backup directly to the drive, and 2) The interface and ease of sharing content stored on Amazon Cloud Drive (A good friend lost all his music and I admit to allowing him to download a limited amount of my content to replace the exact content he already purchased).

     

    Searching for a replacement, I checked a couple well known companies, but found the pricing way too high and the fine print annoying. For example, Dropbox claims unlimited storage for its Advanced level plan at $20 per month per user. That would be $240 per year for my nearly 15TB of storage. However, reading the fine print, one will find there's a three user minimum. This elevates the price to $720 per year.

     

    Google also says its G Suite customers can upgrade to a business plan for unlimited storage. The fine print says, if there are four or fewer users, 1Tb is the maximum amount of storage per user. Five users at $10 per month is $50 /month or $600 /year. If this is truly unlimited, it's cheaper than Dropbox, but still 10x the cost of Amazon Cloud Drive. Strangely, when I look at the cost of just adding more storage to my Google account, the cost is $200 per month for 20TB. There's something amiss here. I can get unlimited storage for $600 /year or 20TB for $2,400 /year.

     

    Backblaze is another cloud storage company I am investigating for my music backup. The cost of its B2 Cloud plan is $0.005 per GB per month. This would be $75 /month or $900 /year for my 15TB of backed up NAS. 

     

    Perhaps the Amazon Cloud Drive solution (unlimited for $60 per year) was a unicorn that will never be seen again. I need a solution to my issue, but haven't found one that excites me for a reasonable price. 

     

    I'd love of the CA Community to let me know what they are using or to offer suggestions. I'll continue investigating and write up an article about the final selection (hopefully soon).

     

     

     

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    New Music

     


    BSR_EP_CoverArt_hi.jpgOn August 10, 2017 I read the latest blog from Bob Lefsetz, raving about the band Greta Van Fleet. I don't usually check out Bob's music recommendations, but this one was different. He said the band sounded like Led Zeppelin. 

     


    "It’s a Led Zeppelin rip-off.

     

    But didn’t Led Zeppelin rip off Willie Dixon and the rest of the bluesmeisters?

     

    If you lived through that era, you will instantly hear mid-period Zeppelin, complete with Robert Plant screams. Then you remember that was 45 years ago! About the same distance, if not longer, that Zeppelin was removed from the classic delta blues artists.

     

    It starts off as homage. Then you take off from there. Think about all the covers on the initial Beatle albums!"

     

     


    After reading Bob's entire blog, I immediately opened Tidal and gave Greta Van Fleet a listen. Then another listen, and another. The band sounds very much like Led Zeppelin, one of my all time favorites. I couldn't stop listening to GVF. I'm glad I actually read Bob's blog before hearing about this band. I could have easily written them off as a Zeppelin imitation band. However, Bob is correct in that Zeppelin copied all the blues masters and that was 45 years ago. All artists are influenced by previous generations of music. This band is no different. 

     

    GFV is an American band from Michigan, formed in 2012. The band hasn't released much in this time, but it's January , 2017 EP titled Black Smoke Rising is what should have everybody listening / talking. I've cranked it up on my main system, my headphone system, and my car system. It's great rock and roll that deserves to be cranked up. 

     

    I highly recommend reading Bob's blog first, then giving the band a listen. it will set your frame of mind and get you excited for a little rock and roll.


    Bob Lefsetz - Greta Van Fleet

     

    Greta Van Fleet - Black Smoke Rising - YouTube | Spotify | Tidal

     

     


     

     


    Remote Access

     


    I've been working off and on trying to gain access to Roon while I'm out of the house. Until Roon on the go is released, we will have to find such a temporary solution.  I know it's possible to do this, but I  want to find an elegant solution that I can recommend to everyone and everyone can either buy or setup without too much trouble.

     

    Launching Roon remote from a mobile device without a WiFi connection, won't work. Roon presents an error message about requiring WiFi. Thus, VPN alone won't due the trick. Whatever device is used, will have to be on a WiFi network. Once this is established, a VPN seems like the next logical step.

     

    There are countless VPN solutions that enable one to access a home network (where the Roon core resides). I've used a couple of them and have been testing several others. So far the PiVPN based on a Raspberry Pi is really nice, but it's another device to put on the network and for which a firewall rule is needed. I'm testing out two different wired routers that have built-in VPN, enabling people to configure this VPN and connect remotely without the need for more devices. I believe both the PiVPN and a router based solution will be good options. 

     

    Feel free to offer recommendations, while I continue my testing. I'll publish an article fairly soon, once I am satisfied with the results. 

     

     

     

     

    Cool Streamer Project

     


    The other day I found a cool RCA Victor AM radio in my basement. This thing has several tubes and even built-in presets for local radio stations. It's built like a tank inside and made of cool wood on the outside. Good luck buying something new like this today. 

     

    My idea is to turn this into a desktop all-in-one streamer, like the Naim Mu-so or Klipsch The Three. I'm not sure what it will take, but I'm starting the investigation today. I'm guessing a Raspberry Pi could be used with something from HiFi Berry, but I have no clue about the other pieces such as if I can still use the tubes, amplifier, and speaker. This project isn't that big, but it's out of my comfort zone as soon as I get beyond the digital streaming part.

     

    I'd love all the input I can get from the CA Community on this project. 

     

    P.S. If this one goes well, I have an old Bendix console radio / record player that I'd love to turn into a great stereo.

     

     

     

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    8 hours ago, kennyb123 said:

     

    Unlimited.  So it looks as though this just ends up being a price increase for me - from $5.99 per month to $10 a month.  

     

    That $10/month is per machine as well.  I'm on the family plan which supports up,to 10 machines I believe.

     

    I'd like to setup a buddy-NAS system.  One NAS at my house and the other at a buddy's house that do local backups and mirror each other over our Internet connections.  Of course considering the cost and life expectancy of the hardware, Backblaze starts sounding pretty reasonable.

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    13 hours ago, mrvco said:

    Of course considering the cost and life expectancy of the hardware, Backblaze starts sounding pretty reasonable.

    And Backblaze is a completely scalable solution! :)

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    Google's G-Suite is only $10/ month and despite what they advertise, it IS UNLIMITED! 

    It also syncs and backs up automatically with Synology and QNAP NAS. 

     

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    Backblaze is the service I'd really like to use because it integrates easily with Synology NAS backup. The price is a bit steep though for the B2 service that's required for NAS backup.

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    4 hours ago, agladstone said:

    Google's G-Suite is only $10/ month and despite what they advertise, it IS UNLIMITED! 

    Is that true?  After "$10 per user per month," it says "Unlimited cloud storage (or 1TB per user if fewer than 5 users)."

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    21 minutes ago, Kal Rubinson said:

    Is that true?  After "$10 per user per month," it says "Unlimited cloud storage (or 1TB per user if fewer than 5 users)."

    Even if they actually still allow "unlimited data" in spite of the comment "or 1 TB per user if fewer than 5 users", there is still the issue of throttling. Reducing your bandwidth would make any back-up a lengthy process.

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    On 18-8-2017 at 4:43 PM, foodfiend said:

    Report back to us once you get to more than a few TBs of data. From experience, Crashplan then throttles the data transfer rate to an excruciatingly slow pace. I signed for a year, and never got to complete my back-up of my Mac Mini with the attached 8 TB HDD, and so I just gave up.

     Even worse. Crashplan themselves gave up.

     

    trying backblaze now...

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    @John Milton I won't be surprised if the consumer market was never part of their core business strategy in the first place. Just that when they have built a data centre, and it is operating at a barely break-even volume, they might have seen the consumer market as an easy way to soak up excess capacity. Now that they have more corporate clients to fill the data centre, they can shed the consumers.

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    Crashplan / Code 42 is actually located 10 minutes from my house, here in Minneapolis. I should line up a meeting with them to get more info and push the needs of our niche. 

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    If you do that, Chris, please ask them why they throttle their upload speeds unannounced.

     

    Unless I learn something new about their service, I feel I wasted my money.

     

    The throttling took place after about 4TB's were uploaded.

     

    Joel

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    1 hour ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

    Crashplan / Code 42 is actually located 10 minutes from my house, here in Minneapolis. I should line up a meeting with them to get more info and push the needs of our niche. 

     

    For some reason I thought you were in California. I used to live on Minnetonka. Nice area. 

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    Been using CrashPlan for Small Business since yesterday. 

     

    I wanted to install this on my Windows (CAPS Cortes) PC because it's powerful and it sits in a utility room. This PC runs all kinds of power hungry audio apps such as HQPlayer. However, after installing it, I found out that CrashPlan can only backup a mapped drive if it's on Mac or Linux. No windows. My NAS is a synology that I mapped to this Windows PC just for the purpose of backing up, but I'm out of luck there.

     

    I installed the CrashPlan app on my iMac Retina 5K with 4 GHz i7 CPU and 16 GB of RAM. I work on this Mac all day, so this isn't ideal. There are settings for CrashPlan when the computer is active and when it isn't being used. I left it backing up last night (thus the app uses more of the system resources), and when I looked at it this AM, it said I have 5.3 months remaining on the backup. Not very cool, considering I have a 1 Gbps up/down internet connection. 

     

    after working on this Mac today, and the app throttling back because I'm active on the computer, it now says I have 21.9 years left on the backup. Very not cool. 

     

    If CrashPlan is installed on a computer that is used regularly, this backup will never complete. 

     

    Should be talking to them shortly. 

     

     

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    32 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

    Been using CrashPlan for Small Business since yesterday. 

     

    I wanted to install this on my Windows (CAPS Cortes) PC because it's powerful and it sits in a utility room. This PC runs all kinds of power hungry audio apps such as HQPlayer. However, after installing it, I found out that CrashPlan can only backup a mapped drive if it's on Mac or Linux. No windows. My NAS is a synology that I mapped to this Windows PC just for the purpose of backing up, but I'm out of luck there.

     

    I installed the CrashPlan app on my iMac Retina 5K with 4 GHz i7 CPU and 16 GB of RAM. I work on this Mac all day, so this isn't ideal. There are settings for CrashPlan when the computer is active and when it isn't being used. I left it backing up last night (thus the app uses more of the system resources), and when I looked at it this AM, it said I have 5.3 months remaining on the backup. Not very cool, considering I have a 1 Gbps up/down internet connection. 

     

    after working on this Mac today, and the app throttling back because I'm active on the computer, it now says I have 21.9 years left on the backup. Very not cool. 

     

    If CrashPlan is installed on a computer that is used regularly, this backup will never complete. 

     

    Should be talking to them shortly. 

     

     

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    I backed up network shares from my 2012 R2 box.  When you install you have to install for the current user not all users.  Of course you must also stay logged in as it works as an app instead of a service at that point..  At least that's how it worked for the home version.

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    11 minutes ago, Dr Tone said:

     

    I backed up network shares from my 2012 R2 box.  When you install you have to install for the current user not all users.  Of course you must also stay logged in as it works as an app instead of a service at that point..  At least that's how it worked for the home version.

     

    Yes, it's possible to do, but it isn't supported. I looked at this process - https://support.code42.com/CrashPlan/4/Backup/Back_up_files_from_a_Windows_network_drive

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    @The Computer Audiophile That was the kind of experience I had with Crashplan when I signed up with them (before Amazon had their unlimited plan). I was far from done after a year, even though the computer it was backing-up from, was hardly used. Naturally, I gave up.

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    Considering I'm backup up over 7TBs, I can't migrate to Pro I'll have to re-upload everything.  Backblaze doesn't backup network shares with their unlimited and B2 is too expensive.

     

    I'm seriously considering bringing up another NAS and putting it offsite to back up to.  I'm 100% in control at that point.

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    I just got off the phone with Code 42 / CrashPlan. The person I spoke with said they absolutely don't throttle anyone's upload/download speed at any time. 

     

    I'm going to contact the more technical team at Code 42 to try to get some answers about speeding up backup and NAS install and Windows shares etc...

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    we need to create a CA "NAS" Buddy program!! 

    Wheras (I've been thinking about this concept for a few days now) you "Buddy up" with another CA NAS user and each of you have a backup of your NAS going to the other Buddy's NAS! 

    Of course this would require that each of the "Buddies" has the ability to store the backup of the others, so it would probably require that each person had an 8 or 9 bay NAS and was only using 4 bays or so for their own purposes. 

    This would work and the "Buddy's" could pay for (ship to the other buddy via amazon, etc) the Hard Drives used for their off-site backup, but really if each person just bought their own extra drives and or extension attachments, it's exactly the same difference anyhow?? 

    Any thoughts on this idea?? 

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    14 minutes ago, agladstone said:

    we need to create a CA "NAS" Buddy program!! 

    Wheras (I've been thinking about this concept for a few days now) you "Buddy up" with another CA NAS user and each of you have a backup of your NAS going to the other Buddy's NAS! 

    Of course this would require that each of the "Buddies" has the ability to store the backup of the others, so it would probably require that each person had an 8 or 9 bay NAS and was only using 4 bays or so for their own purposes. 

    This would work and the "Buddy's" could pay for (ship to the other buddy via amazon, etc) the Hard Drives used for their off-site backup, but really if each person just bought their own extra drives and or extension attachments, it's exactly the same difference anyhow?? 

    Any thoughts on this idea?? 

     

    For versioning and continual backup of your data to work it would need to be pushed to your buddies NAS from the source NAS using the appropriate backup software.  Sending a loose drive with your data initially won't work.

     

    Any software that would start from a loose drive would also leave the data wide open for you buddy to browse.  Most of us are backing up photos, tax and other important private data to they clouds.  Encrypted of course.

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    Speaking from my personal perspective, I would just want my music data to be backed up (since it takes the most storage, and is the biggest hassle to rebuild/re-rip). I wouldn't even care about versioning, or images. I would also have no need for that data to be encrypted.

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    5 hours ago, Dr Tone said:

     

    For versioning and continual backup of your data to work it would need to be pushed to your buddies NAS from the source NAS using the appropriate backup software.  Sending a loose drive with your data initially won't work.

     

    Any software that would start from a loose drive would also leave the data wide open for you buddy to browse.  Most of us are backing up photos, tax and other important private data to they clouds.  Encrypted of course.

    Yes of course!! I meant not sending the drives for a first backup, I meant so the "Buddy" would. It need to pay for / buy additional blank Hard Drives for your backup, but while writing that I realized both "buddies" would need to buy extra hard drives equally (unless they already had them with enough free space) , so it does not matter anyhow! 

    Also, by no means did I mean nor would I ever backup and personal information or data to the buddies NAS - Music ONLY!! And just via Synology or some other backup software so it's encrypted, etc !! 

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    44 minutes ago, foodfiend said:

    Speaking from my personal perspective, I would just want my music data to be backed up (since it takes the most storage, and is the biggest hassle to rebuild/re-rip). I wouldn't even care about versioning, or images. I would also have no need for that data to be encrypted.

    Agreed!! 

    So I guess I need to buy the 1817+ and you and I can be the first "CA Buddy team" as a trial :) 

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    41 minutes ago, agladstone said:

    Agreed!! 

    So I guess I need to buy the 1817+ and you and I can be the first "CA Buddy team" as a trial :) 

    Would love to do so, but you would have to deal with intercontinental Internet transfer rates (not ideal, but I am in Asia). Am game to set up a test, so that we can get an idea of the speed of uploads and downloads, before committing to buying extra HDDs.

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