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    Introducing The Sonore Signature Rendu SE

    Wait, what? Yes, this one has flown under the radar. The Signature Rendu SE is real, and I'm using it right now as I type this announcement. It's not a microRendu 1.3, nor an upgraded microRendu 1.4 and not "just" and ultraRendu. The Signature Rendu SE is comprised of an ultraRendu and Sonore Signature Power Supply, in a single chassis. Sure the single chassis won't enable one to swap out power supplies, but that's the point. Many people just want a one box solution with a PSU built specifically for the device. If this is you, the Signature Rendu SE might be just the ticket. 

     

    The first thing I noticed when unboxing the Signature Rendu SE, was the front panel finish and nice design touches (I like the power switch). The front panel is gloss black, that no pictures I've seen do justice. I also haven't seen a Sonore product with a fit and finish at this level. 

     

    At this point in time I really don't have many details with respect to sound quality, availability, price, etc... Come on folks, I just got this thing :~)

     

     

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    Below is some information directly from Sonore:

     

     

     

    Signature Rendu SE

    Single enclosure ultraRendu and Signature Power Supply

    Introducing the Signature Rendu SE, the absolute finest streaming USB source we have made. The Signature Rendu SE is the natural evolution of Sonore’s microRendu (computeraudiophile.com Product of the Year 2016) and Sonore’s acclaimed Signature Power Supply.

    The Signature Rendu SE takes an Ethernet audio stream and renders it to a perfect, ultra-low noise USB feed to one’s USB DAC. While the microRendu is a revolutionary product, the Signature Rendu SE takes off from the microRendu concept, improving on it by refinement and attention to every detail.  The Signature Rendu SE takes advantage of a single chassis design, allowing close coupling of the power supply and processing board for the ultimate in ultra-low impedance and ultra-low noise power delivery. The new Signature Rendu SE processing board uses a larger footprint to allow for more independent low noise voltage regulation stages (all regulators are now ultra-low noise linear types), and better physical separation of the Ethernet processing and USB output sections, further reducing noise and crosstalk. A new ultra-low phase noise (so called “femto”) oscillator is used to govern all processing and USB audio output.

     

    HARDWARE FEATURES

    • The internal power supply is a no compromise design featuring a custom wound, EI style transformer from Mercury Magnetics (made in the USA). This transformer effectively blocks AC line noise, providing a solid foundation of clean power.
    • Ultra-soft recovery diodes and film capacitor damping assure a DC supply free of ringing artifacts, and massive power supply capacitance (50% more than used in even the Sonore Signature Supply) insures low impedance/low ripple power delivery to our main, discrete linear pre-regulator.
    • A stainless-steel chassis divider protects the processing circuitry from both AC wiring and transformer based stray RF and EM interference.
    • The Signature Rendu SE is housed in a beautiful audiophile custom chassis, (made in the USA) which is right at home alongside the finest audio components in the world.
    • Upgraded custom footers with larger Sorbothane pads virtually absorbs all external micro mechanical interactions from migrating into the highly critical processor and re-clocker boards.
    • Dimension: 12.75in (width) x 3in (height) x 10.25in (depth)
    • Weight: 10lb
    • Power input: 120VAC or 230VAC, 60Hz or 50Hz
    • Power consumption: TBD
    • Includes warranty card and manual
    • Cardas AC power cord (optional, 1 week lead time)

     


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    In the upcoming review It would be  interesting to compare ultraRendu with allo USBridge streamer as I personally like USBridge more than my microRendu/lps1 combo

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    3 minutes ago, mentt said:

    In upcoming review It would be  interesting to compare ultraRendu with allo USBridge streamer as I personally like USBridge more than my microRendu/lps1 combo

     

    Very interesting to know

    How do you power your sparky or the usbridge (not sure if they can be powered separately)

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    Just now, rikhav said:

     

    Very interesting to know

    How do you power your sparky or the usbridge (not sure if they can be powered separately)

     

    I am using USB power bank as power supply for the USBridge. They can be powered separately, but I haven't tried it yet

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    Wow, really interesting. So this is supposed to be even superior to an ultraRendu + Sonore Signature Supply?

     

    I wondering how much over $2000 this is going to cost? 

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    For a second I saw 'Signature' and thought they had resurrected the I2S output from the older one! That might have been cat amongst the pigeons for the SU-1 brigade (of which I am a paid up member ;)).

     

    I guess this unit looks like a more sensible evolution of two of the products Sonore were already committed to.

     

    Be interesting to get the review once you've had some time with it Chris.

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    Nice to bring all of this together in one box.  I've been real pleased with the microRendu (soon to be upgraded to 1.4) with the Sonore Signature.  Certainly would be even better to have this solution.  But I'm guessing Sonore would not be too keen on allowing me to send in my "old" products (microRendu and Signature LPS) for this baby.

     

    Still wondering when Chris will review the dCS gear that seems to be "hanging around" his system (based on all the recent reviews).  

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    @stevebythebay did you compare your microRendu with Signature PS to a microRendu with an LPS-1?  If so, can you describe the impact on sound quality?

     

    I see the dCS Network Bridge in your signature.  How are you using it in your system configuration?

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    15 minutes ago, rickca said:

    @stevebythebay did you compare your microRendu with Signature PS to a microRendu with an LPS-1?  If so, can you describe the impact on sound quality?

     

    I see the dCS Network Bridge in your signature.  How are you using it in your system configuration?

     

    It replaced a combo of microRendu/Sonore Signature LPS/Berkeley Alpha USB (D-D converter) in my system.  These are now in my upstairs video/audio system.  Sonically a far better result, though I'm betting the 1.4 upgrade will get things a bit closer (but we're talking about getting rid of USB with the dCS, as well as eliminating the Berkeley which is likely a limiting factor due to its older technology).

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    10 minutes ago, matthias said:

    Interesting that the Sonore Signature PS is now discontinued.

     

    Matt

    Likely didn't sell vey well, given how expensive it was compared not only to the microRendu it was supporting, but less costly, though fine alternatives, like the Uptone Ultracap LPS-1 .  I'm using it with a second microRendu in my second system.  I've never heard of anyone doing a straight up comparison of the Signature and Uptone.  I might have done so in the past (still have one lying about), but at that point I had each microRendu in play.  

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    58 minutes ago, stevebythebay said:

    Still wondering when Chris will review the dCS gear that seems to be "hanging around" his system (based on all the recent reviews).  

     

    It's not just hanging around. I'm waiting for an official version of the firmware that had support for some additional items. 

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    23 minutes ago, stevebythebay said:

    It replaced a combo of microRendu/Sonore Signature LPS/Berkeley Alpha USB (D-D converter) in my system.

    This intrigues me because I'm currently using a Berkeley Alpha USB into my Jeff Rowland Aeris via BNC.  Why didn't you get a Sonore Signature Rendu a while back instead of the microRendu+Signature PS?

     

    I am also considering replacing the Alpha USB but undecided about whether to get a newer DDC or just forget about USB input.  I certainly like the flexibility of SonicOrbiter and DCS Network Bridge looks less versatile.

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    Chris, are the following statements not also true of the ultraRendu?  

     

    The new Signature Rendu SE processing board uses a larger footprint to allow for more independent low noise voltage regulation stages (all regulators are now ultra-low noise linear types), and better physical separation of the Ethernet processing and USB output sections, further reducing noise and crosstalk. A new ultra-low phase noise (so called “femto”) oscillator is used to govern all processing and USB audio output.

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    2 minutes ago, rickca said:

    Chris, are the following statements not also true of the ultraRendu?  

     

    The new Signature Rendu SE processing board uses a larger footprint to allow for more independent low noise voltage regulation stages (all regulators are now ultra-low noise linear types), and better physical separation of the Ethernet processing and USB output sections, further reducing noise and crosstalk. A new ultra-low phase noise (so called “femto”) oscillator is used to govern all processing and USB audio output.

     

    Paging @vortecjr

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    3 hours ago, rickca said:

    Chris, are the following statements not also true of the ultraRendu?  

     

    The new Signature Rendu SE processing board uses a larger footprint to allow for more independent low noise voltage regulation stages (all regulators are now ultra-low noise linear types), and better physical separation of the Ethernet processing and USB output sections, further reducing noise and crosstalk. A new ultra-low phase noise (so called “femto”) oscillator is used to govern all processing and USB audio output.

    Not Chris, but yes indeed these things are true of the Ultra.  The Signature puts all that tech in one beautiful chassis (as Chris mentioned, it is virtually impossible to convey the chassis quality in photos), with a closely coupled, ultra low noise ultra low impedance power supply (actually superior to that of the Signature Power Supply), making for even higher performance and a more elegant set up (no power supply wire adding unneeded resistance and inductance).  The Signature Rendu SE is not for everyone, it is for those who want the best.

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    4 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

     

    It's not just hanging around. I'm waiting for an official version of the firmware that had support for some additional items. 

     

    Would those happen to include MQA and USB?  I'd heard these and some fixes were in the offing. 

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    4 hours ago, rickca said:

    This intrigues me because I'm currently using a Berkeley Alpha USB into my Jeff Rowland Aeris via BNC.  Why didn't you get a Sonore Signature Rendu a while back instead of the microRendu+Signature PS?

     

    I am also considering replacing the Alpha USB but undecided about whether to get a newer DDC or just forget about USB input.  I certainly like the flexibility of SonicOrbiter and DCS Network Bridge looks less versatile.

     

    At the time I'd already been invested in using the Aurender N10 and had yet to move to an Ethernet approach. Also, I'd made substantial investment in making USB workable with high end AES/EBU and USB cabling (no NAS yet on the radar).  It was the availability of the microRendu that tickled my fancy and upended things. C'est la vie. 

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    16 hours ago, stevebythebay said:

    Likely didn't sell vey well, given how expensive it was compared not only to the microRendu it was supporting, but less costly, though fine alternatives, like the Uptone Ultracap LPS-1 .  I'm using it with a second microRendu in my second system.  I've never heard of anyone doing a straight up comparison of the Signature and Uptone.  I might have done so in the past (still have one lying about), but at that point I had each microRendu in play.  

    When the microRendu launched we were concerned that there was going to be a shortage of high end power supplies. As such, we decided to make our own for our most demanding customers, for shows, and for reviews. Understand that the development of the microRendu proceeded the development Uptone Audio LPS-1 power supply by a few months. Now that all these circumstances have been sorted out we can get back to our master plan of providing an all in one unit that continues the original Signature Rendu series that had SPDIF and i2s output.     

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    17 hours ago, stevebythebay said:

    Nice to bring all of this together in one box.  I've been real pleased with the microRendu (soon to be upgraded to 1.4) with the Sonore Signature.  Certainly would be even better to have this solution.  But I'm guessing Sonore would not be too keen on allowing me to send in my "old" products (microRendu and Signature LPS) for this baby.

     

    Still wondering when Chris will review the dCS gear that seems to be "hanging around" his system (based on all the recent reviews).  

    There is an offer planned for existing Sonore customers. I'll share the details here soon.

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    13 hours ago, barrows said:

    The Signature Rendu SE is not for everyone, it is for those who want the best.

    Barrows, not to be argumentative, but I gotta assume the vast majority here "want the best"; it's an affordability issue, not a want issue.  :)

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    2 hours ago, vortecjr said:

    Now that all these circumstances have been sorted out we can get back to our master plan of providing an all in one unit that continues the original Signature Rendu series that had SPDIF and i2s output.     

    The SE will be a USB only product though?  I presume there are no short term plans for a S/PDIF version?

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    2 hours ago, vortecjr said:

    There is an offer planned for existing Sonore customers. I'll share the details here soon.

    This will be interesting.  Many existing Sonore customers just got either an ultraRendu or a microRendu clock upgrade.

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