The Tides They Are-A Changing - Jay Z #TIDALforALL

They can keep it and I'll stick to buying Cd's and downloads.

They can keep it and I'll stick to buying Cd's and downloads.

Fighting with all your might to hold back the hands of time?

Only kidding :~)

Fighting with all your might to hold back the hands of time?

 

Only kidding :~)

I prefer to own a house (asset) so I look at my music the same way. Not kidding. ;-)

I prefer to own a house (asset) so I look at my music the same way. Not kidding. ;-)

No problem with that. But, if I could rent the best houses all over the world and have unlimited access for the price of a single house I'd probably go that route.

I prefer to own a house (asset) so I look at my music the same way. Not kidding. ;-)

I use music services to find what I really like to buy . I actually save money when factoring in the 20/month because I no longer buy mediocre to good albums . I only buy what I rate as excellent .

I think there are quite a few users that follow this methodology .

I am buying fewer CD's for sure though .

I use music services to find what I really like to buy . I actually save money when factoring in the 20/month because I no longer buy mediocre to good albums . I only buy what I rate as excellent .

 

I think there are quite a few users that follow this methodology .

 

I am buying fewer CD's for sure though .

Yeah, I used Spotify (free) for this purpose. Works fine but I have no need to pay $20 per month to rent my music.

I use music services to find what I really like to buy . I actually save money when factoring in the 20/month because I no longer buy mediocre to good albums . I only buy what I rate as excellent .

 

I think there are quite a few users that follow this methodology .

 

I am buying fewer CD's for sure though .

I agree many people use your same methodology. I used to use MOG to preview albums then purchase the CD. With TIDAL I'm pretty much streaming everything.

Yeah, I used Spotify (free) for this purpose. Works fine but I have no need to pay $20 per month to rent my music.

I like to hear what I might buy in Flac as that is the closest I'll get to the actual CD .

I like to hear what I might buy in Flac as that is the closest I'll get to the actual CD .

I think that's where I'm very different. I don't buy solely based on the actual recording quality. If I like the music, then I buy it. That really is the most important part to me.

I think that's where I'm very different. I don't buy solely based on the actual recording quality. If I like the music, then I buy it. That really is the most important part to me.

Let me rephrase , I'm not buying based on recording quality, but I feel I hear more of the recording if it's in something like flac

Let me rephrase , I'm not buying based on recording quality, but I feel I hear more of the recording if it's in something like flac

Yeah, same thing. I buy based on the music...the meaning. I don't need high quality for that...

Given that many folks in audiophile circles dislike CD quality, I'm kinda surprised at the enthusiasm for TIDAL.

So how many music streaming services can actually profit in this market? I think there is going to be a big shakeout at some point. Not sure enough people care about lossless to give Tidal a leg up. Honestly, more people probably care about Kanye than lossless.

Given that many folks in audiophile circles dislike CD quality, I'm kinda surprised at the enthusiasm for TIDAL.

I like cd quality just fine and am too cheap to go crazy on hi - res purchases , some of which sound worse then a cd .

So how many music streaming services can actually profit in this market? I think there is going to be a big shakeout at some point. Not sure enough people care about lossless to give Tidal a leg up. Honestly, more people probably care about Kanye than lossless.

Did you see the new lossy tier?

Given that many folks in audiophile circles dislike CD quality, I'm kinda surprised at the enthusiasm for TIDAL.

The number who dislike CD quality is a tiny but vocal minority.

Did you see the new lossy tier?

This the key IMO. This will give Spotify et al a run for their money and maybe, just maybe, Joe Six-Pack will trial CD quality. Who knew?

This the key IMO. This will give Spotify et al a run for their money and maybe, just maybe, Joe Six-Pack will trial CD quality. Who knew?

I agree.

They know what they're doing :~)

Chris,

Have you heard anything about MQA under new Tidal ownership? Are they still planning to support Meridian's encoding in the HiFi $20/mo tier?

I wonder if Spotify will do the reverse now and offer a lossless tier. For my musical tastes Spotify has a better catalog, but I like TIDAL's quality so I subscribe to both.

I wonder if Spotify will do the reverse now and offer a lossless tier. For my musical tastes Spotify has a better catalog, but I like TIDAL's quality so I subscribe to both.

I'm hoping the relaunched Beats from Apple has a lossless tier.

Chris,

 

Have you heard anything about MQA under new Tidal ownership? Are they still planning to support Meridian's encoding in the HiFi $20/mo tier?

I talked to them about it last week. I don't think there is anything definitive yet.

Below are some interesting tidbits on the new Tidal business model. Looks like we'll see content exclusivity windows and bidding wars a la Netflix, Amazon Prime, and HBO Go in the video space.

"TechCrunch reports today, citing an article published in Breakit, that musicians are going to make their albums available first on Tidal before bringing them to Spotify and other streaming services after a period of time. That would make Tidal the go-to place for fans of artists like Madonna, Beyoncé, and Kanye West, as their music would be available to stream only on Tidal before reaching sites like Spotify several months later."

"There's another big incentive for stars considering bringing their music to Tidal: Money. TechCrunch says that Tidal has been offering to pay artists as much as double the payouts offered by Spotify for every play of their songs. Tidal charges a far higher price than other streaming sites, costing as much as $20 a month for its high-resolution music. That money could be going toward persuading artists to sign up through generous deals."

Read more: Jay Z Tidal music streaming press conference in New York - Business Insider

I talked to them about it last week. I don't think there is anything definitive yet.

Hopefully, they'll still incorporate MQA. Seems like a great differentiator and added justification for the premium price. If Tidal doesn't, maybe it will push Beats/Apple to do so though that is a long shot. In any case, if MQA really incorporates original source recordings with their promised encoding/decoding benefits in a 1200+/- kps package, then premium streaming services would pretty much provide 95% of my music content needs.

I have some issues with Tidal's mobile app and fewer (but not no) annoyances with the Tidal Mac desktop app, but on the whole I'm enjoying Tidal. One thing I notice, though, is that Spotify seems to have a much larger library than Tidal, so even with all the musician-centric incentives, I believe Tidal has an uphill climb.

And while that's happening, along comes Apple, and poof, game over.

Just my opinion.

--David