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    I've been following loudspeaker manufacturer Magico for nearly five years. I was first introduced to the company's founder Alon Wolf through mutual friends in California's bay area. Soon after meeting Alon I visited Magico's Berkeley factory where the company was designing its then flagship M5 loudspeaker. I spent quite awhile listening to the M5s during that visit. At that time the M5 was the best speaker I'd ever heard. In late December 2009 I re-visited Magico's Berkeley factory to listen to an unknown speaker that I was told was something special. The experience was a bit like déjà vu as I spent hours listening to the newly designed Q5 loudspeaker. This speaker was far above and beyond anything Magico had previously produced, but I left the factory proclaiming, "The Magico Q5 loudspeaker is the best loudspeaker I've ever heard anywhere. There isn't a single product on the market today that's capable of this level of performance." Much has changed since that last visit including a new flagship Q7 loudspeaker, the introduction of Magico's S Series, and a new home for the factory. Fast forward to December 2013. It was time to visit Magico once again.[PRBREAK][/PRBREAK]

     

     

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    The Company

     

    A mid December trip to California is never a bad idea when one lives in Minnesota. Escaping the cold for business or pleasure is always fine with me. This trip was a quickie to say the least. I arrived at SFO airport at 12:00PM on a Tuesday and caught a flight home to MSP at 3:00 PM Wednesday. I drove straight from SFO to Magico's new Hayward, California factory. Magico not only builds some of the finest loudspeakers in the world, but the company is a success story. Like most speaker companies Magico started from meager beginnings and some peculiar looking products. Fortunately the company has learned from its many different designs and has continued to push loudspeaker performance boundaries. Magico's Mini, Mini II, V2, V3, and M5 were all wood based products. Calling them just plain wood is quite an understatement. Magico's Baltic Birch designs were terrific looking and sounding. Its Baltic Birch based speakers received nearly every major accolade in the HiFi industry. As these products gained traction in the marketplace and positive reviews continued to add up, the company continued to grow. Reinvesting in the company enabled Magico to research and develop its flagship line of Q Series aluminum based loudspeakers. Moving to the Q Series required a herculean effort from all of Magico's employees. This was a sea change. First was the Q5, followed by the Q3, Q1 and the best speaker I've heard to date the Q7. The new Q Series was received very well in the high end marketplace. Soon Magico's factory was bursting at the seams as the company outgrew its Berkeley location. The success of the Q Series and Magico's new S Series enabled the company to move to a much larger facility where the CNC machines run nearly non-stop. Magico's success stems from both continual improvement of its processes and continually pushing loudspeaker performance boundaries.

     

     

     

    The Factory

     

    in-article-250.jpgMagico's new factory in Hayward, California is certainly a sight to see. Rectangles, circles, blocks, and squares of thick aluminum enter the factory only to be transformed into beautiful pieces of the Magico loudspeaker puzzle. Other pieces are sourced from top manufacturers. During my visit Magico was in the process of building a handful of its Ultimate horn based loudspeaker systems with parts sourced from around the world. Sitting outside Alon's office was several hundred thousand dollars worth of Ultimate parts waiting for assembly and fine tuning. There's a reason this speaker system is $600,000 per pair. The best parts and the best engineering aren't cheap.

     

    One of the first stops for Magico's newly delivered aluminum is a CNC machine. The company has several of these machines masterfully creating parts with extremely low tolerances simultaneously. I'd never seen a CNC machine in person before this visit. Watching these machines carve through aluminum with ease is something to behold. After the aluminum takes on its new shape it's sent to another area in the factory for assembly into one of Magico's speakers.

     

    Magico has the visible parts of its speaker enclosures finished before entering this factory location for assembly. For example, the Q Series is hard anodized black. This anodizing is a very expensive part of speaker production. However, Magico's anodizing is extremely tough. The external surface of the Q Series speakers will not scratch unless someone is really trying hard to scratch it with the right tool. Common household items such as car keys, compact discs, and coffee cups need not apply. These items can't scratch a Q. This anodizing once stood up to a forklift accident at the factory that crushed a driver enclosure inside a speaker but didn't leave permanent scratch on the outside of the speaker.

     

    Magico's fairly new S Series of loudspeakers is based on extruded aluminum enclosures and a coloring processes that's less expensive than hard anodizing. This enables Magico to produce a series of speakers with a lower MSRP and to offer an array of colors not seen in the Q Series. The S1 and S3 loudspeaker enclosures consists of a single piece of extruded aluminum without seams. It's an impressive enclosure to say the least.

     

    Magico not only engineers its enclosures to the highest levels, it engineers its drivers to the same way. In Alon Wolf's office are quite a few Magico drivers for various speakers. As a test Alon placed one of these drivers on his metal desk and asked me to pick it up off the desk. The strength of the driver's magnet really surprised me. Sure the driver was heavy, but I didn't expect it to stick to the desk like superglue because of its magnetism. In addition to very fine materials that go into fabricating these drivers Magico also tests each one with an advanced Klippel Production Analyzer QC system. Such a system isn't cheap but it's required for a manufacturer to detect electronic and mechanical anomalies or defects with extremely tight tolerances.

     

    Strolling through the factory I saw Q5 and Q7 loudspeakers in various stages of assembly. No matter one's preference for loudspeaker sound or quality, it's impossible not to be impressed by Magico's crossovers. The size, weight, and individual components that make up the Q Series crossovers are truly awesome. Even the solid core copper wiring that runs throughout each Q Series speaker is impressive.

     

     

     

    The Products

     

    Magico's newest product released is the S3. This is the loudspeaker I listened to throughout my visit in the incredible Magico listening room. The 150 lbs. full range floor standing S3 starts at $22,600. It features the world's largest monocoque enclosure at 16" in diameter with 1/2" aluminum walls. Similar to the S1 and S5 the S3 also features an acoustic suspension enclosure. Magico recently developed a polycarbonate sub-enclosure using advanced materials and a unique shape. This new sub-enclosure makes its debut in the S3. The S3 driver compliment is one MB30 Beryllium tweeter, one MB390 mid-woofer (same as S5), and two new Hybrid Nano-Tec/aluminum 8” woofers. The S3 will likely surprise many people with its midrange purity and deep bass response. This is definitely a loudspeaker with which I could live.

     

    On static display at the new Magico factory was the new Q Series subwoofer called the QSub. Featuring an 18" woofer and sealed enclosure, this 570 lbs. behemoth is like no other subwoofer. A brief description from my 2013 CEDIA show report stated, "This subwoofer has 6,000W of power and two 18" woofers. The monstrous enclosure features two inch thick aluminum similar to the thinner Q series of loudspeakers. The QSub-18 retails for $36,000." At the factory the QSubs weren't connected to anything so I will rely on my CEDIA experience for sound quality, "I listened to both movies and concert Blu-ray performances through the Magico / Constellation Audio system. No matter what audio was sent through this system the bass produced by the QSub-18s (two of them in the room) was like nothing I'v ever heard. I've never heard bass so clear yet so deep. There was no annoying deep rumble during explosions while watching movies. Rather the bass was incredibly controlled while it shook my clothing with displaced air. Keep in mind that this sub, like all Magico products, features a sealed enclosure. While watching Chris Botti and Katharine McPhee perform I've Got You Under My Skin the QSub-18 subwoofers appropriately disappeared until needed. The experience of hearing a QSub was unlike anything I've heard and I highly recommend Computer Audiophile readers seek out an opportunity to hear this controlled monster."

     

     

     

    The Listening Room

     

    At the factory I visited Magico's new 20' x 33' x 13' listening room. The room is absolutely stunning. It's the room Magico's Alon Wolf has waited for for 50 years. Built as a room within a room, this listening room is similar to Magico loudspeakers in that it's sealed tightly. One must slightly slam the door in order to properly close it and seal the sound inside and out. Speaking of sealing sound, this listening room has an ambient noise floor near 20 dB. Listening to music in this room revealed details in well known tracks that I'd never heard. The first day at the factory we listened to Vitus 40 watt mono blocks, a Vitus preamp, Aurender W20, and dCS Vivaldi DAC. The second day we switched to Constellation Audio mono blocks and preamp, Matan Arazi's Audeeva Conbrio music server, and a Pacific Microsonics Model Two DAC. Both days I enjoyed what I heard tremendously. I can't say it's the best sound I've ever heard because the S3 loudspeaker isn't the Q7. If I were to hear a Q7 in that listening room I'm willing to bet I'd be jaded for years to come. The S3 is a very revealing speaker. It enabled us to switch electronics from amps and preamps to DACs and music servers and quickly identify sonic differences. Sure some people want a speaker with a little added cream and sugar, but that's not my style. I want my music reproduced as accurately as possible. Based on several hours of listening time spent with the new Magico S3 I think this loudspeaker will be tough to beat in its price range.

     

     

     

    The Experience

     

    My 2013 trip to the new Magico factory was well worth the less than luxurious airplane rides. The 27 hours I spent in California, much of which was spent at Magico, was productive. It's always nice to see how products are made and to talk to the people creating such products. Magico's CEO and Chief Designer Alon Wolf and I spent a several hours not only listening to music but also talking about the HiFi industry, product value, and technology. I like talking to Alon as he isn't afraid to voice an opinion. One subject that we discussed has stuck with me more than all the other items. That is product value. Along these lines Alon and I discussed industry product markups and the quality of parts manufacturers place in products. Everyone agrees manufacturers need to make money to stay alive. Marking up one's product from the Bill of Materials cost to the MSRP is how businesses make money. However, when manufacturers use incredibly cheap parts and mark the price up ten times (or more) the BoM cost it frustrates both Alon and myself. Magico's markup isn't nearly as high as many of its competitors. This brings me back to value. Value is often inversely proportional to the difference in price between a manufacture's BoM cost and MSRP. When the markup is small the value is large. Regardless of the final retail price, if a product BoM is $25,000 and it's sold in stores for $100,000, I'd much rather purchase that product than one with a BoM of $4,000 that's sold for $40,000. All of this is a topic for another discussion, but it's relevant when considering one's next pair of loudspeakers. Based on my experience over the years with Magico the company offers true value in all of its products regardless of price.

     

     

    Visit Magico at http://www.magico.net

     

     

     

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    Axe to grind? Why because I question the veracity of the claim of value when it applies to Magico? Sorry, I am not a sycophant of any equipment manufacturer, so if I question the use of value in describing Magicos then I guess I do have an axe to grind in that regard.

     

    Few products at this end of the spectrum can be described as "value" products, including the products I own and enjoy. I haven't lost touch with reality as it seems some have. But that's me.

     

     

    I missed your most important contribution: In any case enjoy. It is a great thing when you can truly enjoy your music which is what it is all about.

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    value |ˈvalyo͞o|

    noun1 the regard that something is held to deserve; the importance, worth, or usefulness of something:your support is of great value.• the material or monetary worth of something: prints seldom rise in value | equipment is included up to a total value of $500.• the worth of something compared to the price paid or asked for it: at $12.50 the book is a good value.

    ORIGIN Middle English: from Old French, feminine past participle of valoir ‘be worth,’ from Latinvalere .

     

     

     

    Value is relative. The price of a good or service is often quoted when discussing value, but it really doesn't have much do with value. I think percentage is a better marker. If I purchase a $300,000 Bentley Mulsanne for $200,000 and the BoM cost is $180,000 I'd say that is a value. Some people might suggest paying $200,000 for a car is preposterous but again, the price is irrelevant. Even if I paid full price for a Bentley Mulsanne I could still say it was a value. The number of zeros before the decimal point shouldn't cloud our judgement of value.

     

     

    Congrats for the great piece of writing...we "all" understand that the article is not a review and therefore you are absolutely entitle to whatever form of enthusiasm you choose to write...Seeing the Magico from the inside is of course very interesting to me...

     

    Now about value, I disagree...

    On my side, I cannot completely disconnect value from price. "Value for money" is the complete expression...

    For money, not in absolute terms, because my wallet is finite...

     

    On my view, when I see a loudspeaker from Magico at 20000 USD, I would ask:

    Does it values more that it costs? (We don't care about the BOM Cost, our cost is the obtained price)...

    Do I perceive it's value as positive (sound and performance in a system)?

    Does it has performance to justify its price? Is it better that the other speakers in the same price class?

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    Nice article. Always interesting to read about speakers or equipment in the crème de la crème class of products. And that's about it, a nice article. Price, if you can afford it, price means nothing...

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    Great article Chris, it was nice to be able to have a "virtual" tour of the Magico facility as seen through your eyes and also learn about the arc of the company's development and growth. That is not something that we see too often and it's nice to see where high end equipment is manufactured and designed. The engineering nerd in me from my former life sees enough detail through the pictures to understand the quality standard that they are striving for and the investment that they have made towards that. Capital expense, tooling, and programming for a single CNC will set you back several hundred thousand easily - as high as you want to go. Good for them on setting a high bar.

     

    By the way, great pictures. You captured everything that I would have liked to have seen in the facility. A bit more detail on the listening room would have been nice since it was so well put together.

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    Regarding the listening room: I think I see diffusers at the first reflection points at the sides and behind the speakers. What little I've read about room treatment is that absorbers seem recommended at these positions. Given the number of what appear to be absorbers on the walls at other points, it doesn't seem like they thought the room was inherently too dead for absorbers at the first reflection points.

     

    I'm curious to know why they did that.

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    What is interesting to me is how very few speaker manufacturers publish polar frequency response plots for their speakers. Unless I am missing something, I can't find such a plot on the Magico site.

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    Having visited numerous dealers showing the Magico line I've never heard them perform in either a consistent or stellar manner, even with some of the best electronics and sources. I'm guessing that they are very, very room dependent. Sounds like the factory has designed the ideal room around the speaker, rather than developing a speaker design that is suitable in "real world" environments, especially in the home, where it's often lower ceilings and a wide mix of flooring and furnishings. For those with the "sweet spot" room, it likely performs quite well.

     

    I haven't found many speakers to play well in an untreated room. I think it's always important to figure out what room problems one has and then find the right products to address the issues.

     

    I just got through listening to a treated room where the person was trying to prove how much room acoustics play in the listening experience. It was an eye opening experience for me. If I had the financial resources to buy an expensive system, my first priority would getting the room to sound right. If you get the room to sound right, especially with low frequencies, any pair of speakers will perform much better and you'll end up not having to turn up the speakers louder to hear the bass, and you'll really enjoy your money's worth of electronics/speakers. you don't necessarily have to spend the money for a custom room or tons of room treatment, but certainly low frequency absorption below 100Hz is the most expensive and problematic issue we have with regards to small rooms. Diffusion and midrange/high frequency absorption is easy for the side, rear and front walls. But really focus on the low frequencies below 100Hz, you'd be amazed at how much deep bass with definition you aren't hearing. I kind of freaked out at this product demonstration. I heard a used mid fi pair of speakers connected to lower end used electronics produce sound that was simply amazing. But the person who conducted the demo said that his clients get HUGE improvements on their high end equipment that far exceeds any single product upgrade. That's how impactful proper room treatment is to a system.

     

    I haven't heard the Magico products, but I've heard only great things about the product line. But they are not inexpensive. I hope to at least hear their listening room if they allow visitors at their factory.

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    After years of following Magico's evolution, I recently took delivery of a pair of Magico S5 speakers and find them to be exceptional. Given the wait time for delivery, I'm sure I am not alone. Thanks for the tour!

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    After years of following Magico's evolution, I recently took delivery of a pair of Magico S5 speakers and find them to be exceptional. Given the wait time for delivery, I'm sure I am not alone. Thanks for the tour!

     

    Congradulations!! Please do post back about some of the details, inquiring minds want to know. :)

     

    How did you position them, did they have a breakin period, did you have to change any electronics for them?

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    Congradulations!! Please do post back about some of the details, inquiring minds want to know. :)

     

    How did you position them, did they have a breakin period, did you have to change any electronics for them?

     

    Thanks Paul! I am still dialing them in, but for now I have them 20" from the front wall, 70.5" apart and 155" from my listening spot. They are pointed just behind my head. I am driving them with a recently purchased Hegel H30 power amp, in turn powered by a Pass Labs XP-20 pre amp. Front ends include a Playback Designs MPD-5 and VPI HRX turntable/Shelter Harmony cartridge/Pass Labs XP-15 phono pre.

     

    The Magicos seem to have mellowed a bit over the past two weeks, though it's hard to tell. So far, I would change nothing. Hope that helps.

     

    Jerry

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    I have no problem with the article, and enjoyed it. I've had the chance to bump into various extremely expensive Von Schweikert items over the years (as a panel guy, one of the few box speakers I like a lot), and if asked to write them up would probably have written a similar article. There are some things which are just done really well, and unless the manu is lying/cheating, then the only thing to do is enjoy what they produce and praise them. Of course, it is up to the market to bear, or not, their wares - that is of course the obvious achilles heel of such things.

     

    See a recent 60 Minutes report on Lamborghini - while Scott Pelley does his typical 'I am pessmistic/surprised/incredulous/don't quite believe you' voice, nevertheless, if the article were written it would also read the same way. Lamborghini turns 50 - CBS News (Note they spend some minutes on how the cars sound and are tuned to sound a certain way :) )

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