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  1. This probably should have been your first post. As the owner of this site I would have expected better from you.
  2. I'm beginning to see why we seem to just keep going around in circles with this discussion. It appears you haven't been reading my posts. The 1318 is an SFP module working at 1G in the Mikrotik CRS305 10G switch (and prior to that a Mikrotik CSS610 switch). That configuration has been working all along as stated in multiple posts. I've been asking over the last few pages here how to get an SFP+ module to work at 1G in these switches. I got 4 new modules (4 because I'm connecting 2 devices; ER and OM Deluxe) because you've repeatedly stated that the only way to achieve this is with dual rate 1G\10G modules. So following your advice I decided to get 2 new dual rate 1475 modules for the 2 ports at switch end and to be safe, since you and others had commented about using same modules on each end of a link, I also bought 2 new non dual rate 1475 SFP+ modules for the ER and OM connections. Understand now?
  3. Thanks Bertel. I tried these steps and had the same results after each step but could never get a working link established. Because of dbastin's post about advertising 10G I went into RouterOS to see what was going on with that since when I posted about mine being deselected, that was with the 1318 SFP modules working. It was still unselected with these 1475 SFP+ modules but no link. I tried lots of random interface settings while in RouterOS, mostly combinations of flow control on/off/auto, full duplex on/off, auto negotiation on/off but again no go. I booted back into SwOS where auto negotiation was deselected and no go. I enabled auto negotiation, applied new settings (without reboot) and immediately had working 1G links. I didn't have to reboot anything downstream (ER, OM Deluxe, sonic transport or streamer/dac), the links just worked. There was definitely no specific repeatable sequence to get it working but somehow, as you said, the modules finally got initialized. So for now I again have 1G links working between dual rate FTLX1475D3BCV SFP+ modules in the Mikrotik CRS305 (using SwOS) and the regular FTLX1475D3BCL SFP+ modules in my ER and OM. Hopefully it lasts longer than two days this time. If these Mikrotik switches are working "correctly" I'd sure hate to see them working incorrectly.
  4. I read it in a much more generic way as John used it. I take it to simply mean it has to be set somehow through the switch management console. Not all switches have a more simple GUI like SwOS in our Mikrotik switches, that allows you to manage some settings (such as link speed which apparently doesn't function correctly in this use case) without getting into more advanced configuration through command line or RouterOS. My two Mikrotik switches are the only managed switches I have any experience with.
  5. It's accessed through RouterOS. Use "WebFig" (selected at top right of RouterOS UI (you'll see "Quick Set" "WebFig" "Terminal" options). Then from the left side menu selections, choose "Interfaces", then you'll see your ports. Under "Name" tab, click on the port you want. That will open a new page showing link options for that port. Scroll down and you will see "Advertise" with all the different options. On mine, "10G full" is already unchecked for all ports. Be aware that as far as I know, settings made in RouterOS are only in effect while in RouterOS. They have no effect once back in SwOS. If I'm wrong on this anyone please feel free to correct me.
  6. I assume you're referring to R1200CL's response to this post "Again the SFP module has to both be supported by the switch and support the selected speed. It’s data sheet states which speeds it supports." by jabbr? This is what comes up as "the very first post under the John Swenson search": "Just some more info on SFP+ ports and modules. As far as I know ALL switches with SFP+ ports will automatically run the port at 1Gb when an SFP module is plugged it. There are a few switches (they HAVE to be managed switches) let you program the port to a fixed 1Gb , so it will run at 1Gb even with an SFP+ module plugged in. The opposite does not make sense since an SFP module will not run at 10Gb. BUT an SFP+ module WILL run at 1Gb! So you CAN actually put an SFP+ module into an ER! So IF you have one of those switches that lets you program the speed of a port you could actually use SFP+ modules at both ends. Note that for all of these switches that let you program the port speed, the default behavior is to look at the module type to determine the speed. If you want to use an SFP+ module with an SFP+ port with an ER you HAVE to have a switch that supports manual speed selection and you HAVE to go in an program it. You have to be comfortable with programming your switch." I'd say that couldn't be clearer in supporting what R1200CL is saying. What it doesn't support is what jabbr is saying.
  7. In my Mikrotik CRS305 I had two Finisar FTLX1475D3BCV dual rate modules working for two days last week. I purchased these new from Mouser. I also purchased two new FTLX1475D3BCL SFP+ modules at the same time. I purchased these mainly based on your and others experience and comments that these dual rate modules were able to be used in this switch as a confirmed configuration to have an SFP+ module operating at 1G. Even these were not simple to get working initially. These replaced two Finisar FTLF1318P3BTL SFP modules that were operating at 1G with "auto negotiation" selected in SwOS ver. 2.13. On the other end of these two links were two FTLX1471D3BCL SFP+ modules, one installed in my ER, the second installed in my Optical Module Deluxe. This configuration was rock solid. It always consistently worked after all failed attempts trying different SFP+ modules in the Mikrotik. It was just plug and play. Getting back to this part, "not simple to get working initially". Based on previous comments made about the 1475 dual rate modules, I fully expected to simply exchange the 1318 modules for the new 1475 dual rate modules, still with "auto negotiation" selected. Nothing, no link established. The new modules were correctly recognized and identified in the SwOS "SFP" tab. I tried manually setting the link speed to 1G and still nothing. All these attempts also involved various combinations of power downs, reboots, etc., but nothing. I thought maybe it was because I was still using the 1471 modules at the other end. I replaced these with the new FTLX1475D3BCL modules, still nothing (again after trying multiple power down, reboot, etc. combinations). Back at the Mikrotik end, after multiple attempts, even trying to set up in RouterOS, I somehow got 1G links established after trying all the different manual link speed options back in SwOS. The last thing I did was manually set 100M, then set "auto negotiation". Everything worked. This all took well over an hour and about $500.00 (Canadian) for the four new modules. Not thrilled but at least I finally had a 10G switch working with SFP+ modules. Two days later I went to play music and nothing. After about an hour of trying everything I had tried to get it working originally, I went back to the 1318 modules and again, these instantly worked. As a side note, thank God for the Net Analyzer app. I can't imagine going through all this without it. So to finally answer your original question; no. If someone is able to tell me how to get them working in my switch at 1G it would be much appreciated.
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  9. 2.13 Ok, I'll bite; how do you do that since the speed select function doesn't work?
  10. Thanks. I still haven't been able to get an explanation (after asking multiple times) of what the speed setting in the "Link" tab of the SwOS user interface, which has option to select from 10M/100M/1G, is supposed to do if it's purpose is not to set the link speed of the selected port to 10M, 100M or 1G. I have to assume God created that option for some reason. Hopefully you can finally answer this for me.
  11. I think you're trying to say (1) above is incorrect? If yes, I have to disagree. Based on what John actually posted: "So in summary, all SFP+ modules will work fine in SFP cages as long as you don't mix speeds of the devices, both ends must be running at gigabit. If you use a switch with 10GbE ports that can be switched to 1GbE, they will work fine, but If the port ONLY runs at 10GbE, you cannot use it with a link where the other end is SFP." Pretty clear that if switch can be set for 1G link speed, which both CRS305 and CSS610 have settings for in their OS, then based on what John actually said, "they will work fine" (where "they" is referring to SFP+ modules). For whatever reason, neither of these Mikrotik switches do work as John describes. I don't understand why people want to keep trying to say they are working correctly. If this is correct operation, please explain the correct purpose of the 10/100/1G manual link speed setting if it's purpose is not to manually set link speed to 10/100/1G.
  12. I'm assuming you're again referring to implementing this using dual rate SFP+? Will you confirm that you believe your Mikrotik switch (CRS305 or CSS610) is working correctly even though it doesn't respond to the auto negotiation or manual link speed settings in the switch OS when using non-dual rate SFP+ in your switch when connecting to your 1G endpoints? I'm trying to be as specific as I can with my questions in hopes of getting an equally specific reply.
  13. Correct, that's exactly how my CRS305 works here To clarify, you're stating that you have installed a non-dual rate SFP+ in one of the CRS305 SFP+ ports and have it communicate with a 1G device that has an SFP+ installed? If yes, you're the first confirmed case of someone successfully implementing this configuration. Please show screen shots of all relevant settings you've made in your Mikrotik OS, also showing the exact module used as shown in the OS. Hopefully this will allow myself and others to duplicate your success.
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