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I still collect vinyl and it good to see bands doing reissue's bands like Rush, Pink Floyd and Zeppelin

I like butter and I was using it as an example that not everthing new is for the best, butter and cheese should be left out of the fridge in dishes, as left in the fridge kills the flavour.

I'm not replying to defend Vinyl but just to say vinyl has a diffrent sound, your opening post headilne is, why does vinyl excist? well why does real butter, after all your easy to spead straight from the tub is a godsend, no more rock hard lumps from the fridge, why do some people prefere vintage cars or vintage hi fi, you would think that all fuel guzzling loud machine's would be replaced with 80 to the galon silent family cars. Take a look on E bay at the cost of vintage amps turntables speakers, if modern technology is so good why is it that people are prepered to pay large sums of money for something 30 or 40 years old, an 50' les Paul or a modern day one which costs more, which sounds better. Why in GB tesco's now sell Vinyl, the first time in 25 years why do most bands release as a format, a vinyl version of their work, which is better a plastic cold clunky CD or a gatefold album with nice artwork printed lyrics and even postcards included. I listen to 3 types of format, Digital computer files, High rez recordings, and vinyl, all are very good, Blu ray audio takes some beating, Digital is very good, but so is vinyl and in some circumstances better than Digi. Its true that vinyl degrades, and you have to get off you bum to change sides, you see if you unfold all the tech it dosn't make sense to keep all the old stuff the figures speak for themselves, ditch that old car amp move on because this is better,we were all conned by the birth of the CD I know I was. I can't argue with your tech jargon I don't know enough to give you a fight, but In my reply im trying to show its not always that straightforward and the examples I give you try to get that point across, what I do have though is Ears and Years, a good set of ears and many years of enjoying music. Vinyl is a good format and overall a better music experence, you tend to listen to all the album rather that jump to something else which is so easy to do on your computer so its not just the quality of sound its the way you immerse yourself into the music. To finish off I notice, that you mention your Involved in studio recording, and you mention the band Take That, funny isn't it you could pick up any copy of a CD album of Take That at a boot sale for 20p, but a mint Vinyl copy of Wish you were here by Pink Floyd 20 30 40 pounds or more, seems such a waste of digital.

Yes I'm happy with my set up which took some time and money to get together, but I have all playable formats including a turntable. Music has and will always be part of my life, It brings home some many emotions, I think you can spend to much time and money searching for some sound that a cheaper set up will bring you. And people fret about cables and power sources, and I think stop for second sit down pour yourself a glass of your brew, put on a great album and just Enjoy.

To get as close as possible to the natural live sound, some brands are better than others, as your a jazz classic fan, most of what you hear comes from acoustic natural sound, I enjoy rock, so live its bypasing electrical equipment as does HI FI, so clearly easy to reproduce on record. I don't know what HI FI suits the genre you like, but there are brands out there that suit that natural live classic sound.

If you got a guitarist in your room and he/she played you a classical number, the chances of reproducing that same tone and clarity on a HI FI system would be impossible.

It depends on what I'm listening to, for me the genre plays a big part in quality, for example I love Motorhead and Pink Floyd in equal measure, Motorhead do not require high Def when I'm playing one of their live albums I just up the volume and Enjoy CD quality is fine. Wish you Were Here however is another matter, I want to listen to that album in its highest format, its an album your ears can swim in, its like a fantastic meal taken in slowly and enjoy each portion. Motorhead is fish and chips just as tasty but less refined.

I have many Hi REZ recordings and without exception they sound better to these ears than the CD format. Have I been fooled by it all, is it a modern day possibly, but I repeat It sounds good. I read these papers and the same scientific equations keep cropping up, then we have the counter arguments, after a while it becomes a haze of numbers and facts and claim and counter claim. We have to follow science but are they always correct, well no not always, sometimes they get it wrong and I'm sure science dosn't have all the answers there are missing bits of information that have yet to be discovered with regarding sound and the human ear or some other factor yet undiscovered. I love music and I love the 24/96 format, music brings me more pleasure than any 200 page document, so if I'm deluding myself well that's OK I'm loving every second.

Rip the CD in WAV format or Flac for a replica of the CD quality wise, if you pay for good equipment don't feed it below average formats like 320 mp3. I would also think about a good quality audio player Cowon are a good brand plug your headphones into these and the sound will blow your socks off.

I think to many people just want to prove others wrong, they really don't care about music fidelity, its nothing more than one upmanship just to be able to shout from the rooftops ha bloody ha I proved you lot a bunch of fools. To my ears 24/96 is a better quality than 16/44, if I record good ol plastic, its at 24/96 to quote Jimmy Page, gives it more head room, Tests will always be subjective to all kinds of various difficulties, I for one don't give a damn, I enjoy my music at high rez and thats the way it will stay

Science brings me my music through my amps speakers, and the engineers who laboured away mixing and recording the artist work, Back in the day when I first started Enjoying music from the age of 11, I was listening on the cheapest sound reproduction turntable and speakers my folks could afford. Best cables best DAC equipment positioning, in other words stuff that is debated for hours and hours and page after page, did not come into the equation back then, The LP may have been the greatest engineered work to date, but I would not have heard it in all its glory, on the cheap and cheerfull first hi fi of mine. But what I did hear was the magic of music, the excitement knowing I'd came across an art form that would fill my life with spiritual pleasure for the rest of my life, music does reach into our soul, it does awaken something inside of us, and the real shame is, sitting down and really enjoying music is lost on many of us, when is the last time you could play a hour of music without interruption of some sort. So science brings the music, but has no part it the thrill of it all.

Audio the truth, or should it be music the truth, Science really has no part in the enjoyment and thrill of the listening experience, I wonder how Jimi Hendrix would view all this, did he give a damn, about the theory behind it all, no he didn't just a stack of Marshalls, turn up real loud, and play with feeling. Forget about the endless debates about Digi and anolog, I have Three set ups Vinyl, Scad DVDa and Computer via soundcard via J river, all sound great and I Enjoy every second of music played through them. The only truth is, Music is there to be embraced loved and thrilled by, please just do it.

A body of any artist work is important, as is a album of that artist, in refrence to Rumours when I listened to it for the first time, I was not aware of the background and just injoyed the music to what was a classic album. And yes today you could find out who was doing what and to whom, but that info us available to us all not just kids, but would they be that intrested in buying the DVDA version and a expensive DVDA player or download the mp3 for free, in coming back to the original question, kids are more intrested in gossip rather than the birate of a dvda or what it sounds like.

Welcolm to our world Jriver is a great software playback and for sorting your albums, I use a Asus Essence St audio card one of the best out there, I have the Jriver setting on ASIO an it works great, you don't have to have a sound card but it does give you vairable options with more audio outputs and inputs.

Could someone from the USA try it, send them a email and see what happens.