Littlesloth
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Just received: M2Tech Hiface USB interface
Littlesloth replied to kamil's topic in DAC - Digital to Analog Conversion
it looks like I found a mitigation measure for clicking/ticking. Also many other seem to have the same problems: http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?t=5956&page=4 I found a (partly satisfying) solution when settin KS to 16bit. Clicking is only when playing 24/32 bit. It doesn't matter what resolution the music has (16bit/24bit) =>but that means I loose resolution when playing 24bit music. Hope that helps. Any idea what could be the reason? -
Just received: M2Tech Hiface USB interface
Littlesloth replied to kamil's topic in DAC - Digital to Analog Conversion
I just got the new EVO (and Hiface before) and there is still the same clicking between tracks. I tested the following configuration and slowly loose confidence that M2Tech will be able to solve it. They replied that it may come from some players or PC types, but I tested any configuration and still clicking: Test Summary/Failure description Symptom: Clicking when changing tracks (not within the track) only with KS& ASIO (not DS directsound) Tested configurations: Netbook (Windows 7 Starter, Dell Mini Inspiron 1012, Atom N450, 1.66GHz) PC Desktop (XP Pro, Quadcore 4x3.4GHz) Hiface / EVO (no difference in regard of clicking) Hiface driver 1.0.3.140 & 1.0.3.141 (no big difference in regard of clicking) Sample rates/resolution 44.1, 48, 96kHz, 16, 24, 32 bit (no difference in regard of clicking) Mode: KS kernel streaming & ASIO (no difference in regard of clicking), DS direct sound worked fine Foobar 1.0.2.1 & 1.0.3 , Media Monkey (no difference in regard of clicking) Buffer length: 50ms....3000ms (no difference in regard of clicking) DAC1: Cambridge DAC Magic II DAC2: Harman Kardon AVR (no difference in regard of clicking via Hiface, direct to PC>DAC works) 1) Clicking: Netbook > Foobar > KS_Hiface > coax > DAC1 2) Clicking: Netbook > Foobar > ASIO_Hiface > coax > DAC1 3) Clicking: Netbook > Mediamonkey > ASIO_Hiface > coax > DAC1 4) OK: Netbook > Foobar > DS_Hiface > coax > DAC1 5) OK: Netbook > Foobar > KS_DACMagic direct > coax > DAC1 6) Clicking: Netbook > Foobar > KS_Hiface > coax > DAC2 7) Clicking: PC > Foobar > KS_Hiface > coax > DAC1 I think I tried almost any combination and replaced any component in the chain, so definitely the problem results from Hiface / EVO. No other device (Roland Cakewalk UA 25EX, Behringer UCA 202, Cakewalk UA 1G, M-Audio Transit USB, ...) I tested till now showed that effect (all worked OK), so please try to fix that issue. In case you like me to test any configuration I did not test please let me know. Littlesloth -
Just received: M2Tech Hiface USB interface
Littlesloth replied to kamil's topic in DAC - Digital to Analog Conversion
Hi Steve, "changing songs" means either forwarding to the next song or automatically when one song ends and the next begins in a playlist Clicking only appears in those cases. Not during playin a song only when forwarding... Maybe anyone did encounter "clicking" and solved it?! How? Regards, Littlesloth -
Just received: M2Tech Hiface USB interface
Littlesloth replied to kamil's topic in DAC - Digital to Analog Conversion
Hey Steve, thank you for your response. As you can see in my list of test configurations I already tested Windows 7 and XP aswell as a Netbook and a QuadCore PC. What versions of software/driver do you use? And please note that the clicking is only when switching songs not while playing one. Cheers, Littlesloth -
Just received: M2Tech Hiface USB interface
Littlesloth replied to kamil's topic in DAC - Digital to Analog Conversion
I just got the new EVO and there is still the same clicking between tracks. I tested the following configuration and slowly loose confidence that M2Tech will be able to solve it. They repied that it may come from some players or PC types, but I tested any configuration and still clicking: Test Summary/Failure description Symptom: Clicking when changing tracks (not within the track) only with KS& ASIO (not DS directsound) Tested configurations: Netbook (Windows 7 Starter, Dell Mini Inspiron 1012, Atom N450, 1.66GHz) PC Desktop (XP Pro, Quadcore 4x3.4GHz) Hiface / EVO (no difference in regard of clicking) Hiface driver 1.0.3.140 & 1.0.3.141 (no big difference in regard of clicking) Sample rates/resolution 44.1, 48, 96kHz, 16, 24, 32 bit (no difference in regard of clicking) Mode: KS kernel streaming & ASIO (no difference in regard of clicking), DS direct sound worked fine Foobar 1.0.2.1 & 1.0.3 , Media Monkey (no difference in regard of clicking) Buffer length: 50ms....3000ms (no difference in regard of clicking) DAC: Cambridge DAC Magic II & Harman Kardon AVR (no difference in regard of clicking via Hiface, direct to PC>DAC works) Clicking: Netbook > Foobar > KS_Hiface > coax > DAC1 Clicking: Netbook > Foobar > ASIO_Hiface > coax > DAC1 Clicking: Netbook > Mediamonkey > ASIO_Hiface > coax > DAC1 OK: Netbook > Foobar > DS_Hiface > coax > DAC1 OK: Netbook > Foobar > KS_DACMagic direct > coax > DAC1 Clicking: Netbook > Foobar > KS_Hiface > coax > DAC2 Clicking: PC > Foobar > KS_Hiface > coax > DAC1 I think I tried almost any combination and replaced any component in the chain, so definitely the problem results from Hiface / EVO. No other device (Roland Cakewalk UA 25EX, Behringer UCA 202, Cakewalk UA 1G, M-Audio Transit USB, ...) I tested till now showed that effect (all worked OK), so please try to fix that issue. In case you like me to test any configuration I did not test please let me know. Littlesloth -
Just received: M2Tech Hiface USB interface
Littlesloth replied to kamil's topic in DAC - Digital to Analog Conversion
Just returned my Hiface! Used Windows 7 32bit, Netbook Dell 1012, Foobar 1.021 with KS plugin > Hiface coax 1.0.3 > Cambridge DAC Magic II. I read that clicking was assumed to be solved, but it isn't! Everytime I manually switch songs I can hear it clicking. This happens only with KS and ASIO. With DS (direct sound) there is no problem. But, did I buy Hiface to use DS?! No! M2Tech told me to use longer latency, but this has a new side effect: when switching songs you have to wait the latency time: meaning, in case you set 2s it takes 2s to switch to the next song. I have no idea whether it is a SW or HW problem, but it is annoying. I tried to set Foobar's crossfader to smoothen transitions between the songs, but still clicking. I am not sure if WASAPI mode helped, because I had problems using it. So, any ideas? I really like the Hiface, but please improve that clicking thing! cheers, Martin