michael123

Yes, of course. There are other services eg Tidal that worked. I see in Roon logs that other internet requests succeeded, just search didn't work for couple of days But today it works :)

Hi did anyone experience this recently? Happened since the last Roon update, when typing in the search box, get the error 'can't connect' In the logs I see this 02/02 14:33:32 Warn: [easyhttp] Post https://search.roonlabs.net/1/instantsearch2?q=we&count=8&c=tidal-il,qobuz-fr&contentPreferences=preferEdited exception: Cannot access a disposed object. Object name: ‘SslStream’. 02/02 14:33:32 Critical: [search] error performing instant search: System.InvalidOperationException: Operation is not valid due to the current state of the object. at Base.Result1.get_Value() at Sooloos.Broker.Music.LibraryApi.<RunInstantSearch>d__5.MoveNext() --- End of stack trace from previous location where exception was thrown --- at System.Runtime.ExceptionServices.ExceptionDispatchInfo.Throw() at System.Runtime.CompilerServices.TaskAwaiter.HandleNonSuccessAndDebuggerNotification(Task task) at Sooloos.Broker.Music.LibraryApi.<>c__DisplayClass4_0.<<Sooloos-Broker-Api-Library-UnifiedAutocomplete>b__0>d.MoveNext() 02/02 14:33:32 Warn: [easyhttp] Post https://search.roonlabs.net/1/instantsearch2?q=web&count=8&c=tidal-il,qobuz-fr&contentPreferences=preferEdited exception: Cannot access a disposed object. Object name: 'SslStream'. 02/02 14:33:32 Critical: [search] error performing instant search: System.InvalidOperationException: Operation is not valid due to the current state of the object. at Base.Result1.get_Value() at Sooloos.Broker.Music.LibraryApi.d__5.MoveNext() — End of stack trace from previous location where exception was thrown — at System.Runtime.ExceptionServices.ExceptionDispatchInfo.Throw() at System.Runtime.CompilerServices.TaskAwaiter.HandleNonSuccessAndDebuggerNotification(Task task) at Sooloos.Broker.Music.LibraryApi.<>c__DisplayClass4_0.<b__0>d.MoveNext() 02/02 14:33:32 Warn: [easyhttp] Post https://search.roonlabs.net/1/instantsearch2?q=webs&count=8&c=tidal-il,qobuz-fr&contentPreferences=preferEdited exception: Cannot access a disposed object. Object name: ‘SslStream’. 02/02 14:33:32 Critical: [search] error performing instant search: System.InvalidOperationException: Operation is not valid due to the current state of the object. at Base.Result`1.get_Value() at Sooloos.Broker.Music.LibraryApi.d__5.MoveNext() — End of stack trace from previous location where exception was thrown — at System.Runtime.ExceptionServices.ExceptionDispatchInfo.Throw() at System.Runtime.CompilerServices.TaskAwaiter.HandleNonSuccessAndDebuggerNotification(Task task) at Sooloos.Broker.Music.LibraryApi.<>c__DisplayClass4_0.<b__0>d.MoveNext()

Seems to be an option, I don't know how its playlist (radio?) option comparing to Spotify

JRiver won't become Roon, I don't see there a team of developers capable of developing anything near Roon GUI, I reviewed (well until I was not banned), all JRiver release notes - very minor changes. There is one 'major' change, and then for the rest of year JRiver tries to stabilize it. But again, nothing related to audiophile community (or even audio) Video is not the strongest part either BTW, it does not support new multichannel audio formats. Frankly, I am not a videophile. My problem is Dirac, I like it very much. So far VST3 support exists in JRiver, and yes Roon were not very responsive about adding this feature. They promised I think few times, but nothing came out so far.

Yes, I tried many convolution engines, but to my taste only Dirac sounds natural, Dirac also gives wide listening spot comparing to others. Is there somewhere direct comparison (i.e. sound-wise) between Room/HQPlayer/Convolution vs JRiver/Dirac?

Ban me from the forum for 2 months ? 😅

I disagree. There is JRiver WDM driver (that works every other day), what's the difference? Using RAAT will enable native integration into JRiver bypassing Windows. I am saying it is an aging application, 100% of my close audiophile friends use Roon with Tidal Hi Fi today. By enabling RAAT it might be possible to give second life to this application and enable these Roon users, who abandoned JRiver, to gain use of it again Another point in my 'feature list' is support for streaming services, Spotify in my case. If every small hardware jukebox today supports Spotify, what's the technical problem for commercial application?

ok, I might be misusing terminology. The point is having Roon to discover JRiver players and being able to render music on them

yes, I know these drivers and tried using Dirac as driver, far from being perfect. Yes, JRiver is mainly for video guys, TV and such. But strangely when Jim formulated recently a list of JRiver users, he put audiophiles on top.

Stream audio from Roon to JRiver, natively via networking Roon protocol. Similar to a way HQPlayer works I believe

Hello I discovered recently that JimH shamefully banned from his forum -- which is supposed to be support, as many links explaining license are going to support, and by banning such, isn't JimH violating his own license? Anyway there were recently posts on JRiver about audiophiles, I replied that nothing changed much in JRiver since version 25 I think where a full memory play was introduced and then I think 64-bit version is an important step. Beyond that what I see is full ignorance of audiophile community - clearly seen in release notes. Jim opens feature requests threads, and then consistently erases my posts :) I asked for - integration of streaming - Qobuz, Tidal, Spotify (yes, Spotify is not exactly audiophile-quality, but I like its playlist engine) - Enabling JRiver as a NAA point, so I could use Roon as a front-end. For me, JRiver UI is an anachronism as lack of streaming-first support. But I like its DSP/sound engine. I also use Dirac so I would prefer using JRiver as a a back-end I upgraded few times JRiver in my life, now I am locked on version 27 and it is a matter of principle now. I am not going to pay Jim a dollar unless he listens to community -- Michael

No, but I opened a support ticket with Dirac around 3 weeks ago. Flavio is checking..

Hello Are there better measurements with Dirac Live? I work for a few years with Umik-1 Will be beneficial to see measurements from DL3 from both.. If available

Yes. You select available mechanisms - Windows Audio, Asio, then select the actual audio device, and buffer size.