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  1. Interesting. Is that common in mid-fi AVRs? For example, the Aventenge line is the top Yamaha line of AVRs (in case you didn't know), and I wonder if those models would have the same issue. I started all this because I felt listening to all my files streaming via DLNA sounded better than streaming direct from PC to my new AVR. However, I was puzzled by the fact that even though I could control/play music using the Yamaha AV Android app, when I controlled JRiver with the mouse on my PC screen it would inevitably stutter. Sometimes, it would stutter a few times and then play fine after; sometimes, it would continue to stutter until I got tired of trying to wait it out, and the screen would go gray with the "Media Center has stopped working" error onscreen. If what you say is true (and the more I think about it, you are obviously correct), then there is no way to control JRiver, or any other server for that matter, that streaming direct via DAC to AVR, or controlling directly on the DLNA DMP, whether its the Yamaha in this case or any other network streamer I would use? In the JRiver (Media Network) DLNA servers GUI, I have Audio set up as follows: Mode:Specified output format only when necessary, Format: PCM 24 Bit, Stereo downmix is disabled, Volume leveling is enabled, Sample rate:Same as source. I admit i do not know the difference between PCM 24 Bit and PCM L24 No Header. Under Audio Conversion, I have Conversion: Convert audio if necessary, Encoder: MP3 bandwith.(woops, I just set it to PCM 24 Bit) Yup, that was it.. . damn, you're good... Screw it, I uninstalled Subsonic. I will keep using JRiver as the file server and the Yamaha as the DMP. I paid the $10 and downloaded the JRemote. (I need to look into why Gizmo is free and JRmote costs $10. I am sure there are good reasons, but I honestly just took rn701's advice and ran with it. no questions asked). and really... why even keep BubbleUPnP app around? I obviously cant use it at home pushing DLNA files to the Yamaha, and I have JRemote for the car. Thanks everyone. It took a couple of dumb mistakes, and you guys pointing out some really obvious stuff to me, but I felt like I learned a hell of a lot in the last few days. In fact, this thread went so well, I may get around to creating the post asking what I REALLY wanna know; what happens if you take a really futuristic, geeky looking high end digital network streamer and run it through some badass vintage tube equipment? Or in other words, does anyone here run their digital components through vintage amps/speakers/etc?
  2. rn701... Did not mean to come off as snarky, I apologize if it came across that way. I just really do not think that HDMI is the way to go, as Eloise and others have more eloquently stated previously. Again, all of us involved in this hobby understand that what sounds great to 95% (98%?) of the population just does not quite do it for us. I dont know if its dynamics that are missing, or "presence" or what, but it just doesn't sound as good as when I stream via DLNA. I kept having java issues with Minimserver (or maybe I was just doing something wrong) but I got frustrated and uninstalled it. I installed Subsonic and so far, so good. I can access it remotely via BubbleUPnP app on phone. However, a couple of questions for anyone that has used Subsonic... I disabled the max bitrate audio option but whenever I click on the metadata on BubbleUPnP, it reads MP3. Come to think of it, when I was accessing JRiver with BubbleUPnP, it always read WAV. But I am a fan of WAV, so I did not think much of it. Also, Subsonic does not organize library the way JRiver does. When I select an artist, it leads me to the actual folder structure on my hard drive. Why cant it do what JRiver does, and organize that way. If I have a screwed up, convoluted folder directory path to a song, then I have to navigate that path on the app. JRiver will find it wherever it is and list them in a user-friendly way.
  3. So I do not NEED to have BubbleUPnP server installed on my PC at home (wifi) in order to use the Bubble Android app to control my JRiver library and push the files to the Yamaha renderer? I have been trying to use the app that way at home, but JRiver will inevitably begin to stutter and crash. Interestingly, I used to at least be able to select a few files with no problems before it began doing that, but now it happens right away. Using the JRiver PC GUI also gives me problems when trying to stream DLNA. In fact, the only controller that does NOT give me any problems with JRiver is the Yamaha AV android app. However, its very basic and it does not, as my wife likes to say to annoy me.. have "all the pretty pictures" (cover art). More and more I see what Davide256 wrote earlier in the thread about JRiver not being good for streaming. If the files were actually stored somewhere separately, such as a Rpi2 or a NAS or another PC, would I still likely have the same problem? Is the problem really with the PC not having enough CPU "power" to handle what it is being asked to do? I created a JRiver proxy server in BubbleUPnP settings hoping it would help. (yes... I really like JRiver and am trying hard to keep using it) I am having issues installing both BubbleUPnP server and Minim on my PC. Every time I try to install Minim server, I get a java lang error. I am at work so I do not have the exact error but whatever it was, I Googled it and it seems to be a common error. The link I found that really went into detail was in a "java code geeks" website, so of course it went totally over my head. Are there any other similar options to Minim? Before using JRiver, I used to use Foobar. I guess I could always go back to that... In my OP, I stated that the first thing I did when getting the Yamaha was just that. I was happy with it, but not ecstatic. I tried using the Muse USB to SPDIF converter just to see, and it sounded better. Noticeably better. Then I tried streaming via DLNA to the Yamaha and THAT sounded better. Actually, the best sound has been streaming with the Pure Direct option in the Yamaha. (However, I bought a nice Mirage Omni S-10 sub and it will not work in Pure Direct mode) Believe me, using HDMI would be the simplest solution for me.
  4. I downloaded BubbleUPnP server on my WIN10 PC, and the BubbleUPnP Android app. I'm confused, though. Is the idea to download Bubble server OR the Minimserver? or both? Whats the library that the phone app will access? And I can still access the JRiver library. Should I disable the media network section in the JRiver web GUI? Is there any sort of conflict by having multiple server libraries accessible? I have been using Gizmo to access JRiver remotely (makes the morning drive to the office very enjoyable). Basically, Bubble app will be my new Gizmo, only now I can access my home library AND different cloud/streaming options? I have been reading up as much as I can, but it feels like the more I learn, the more confused I get.
  5. thanks again, everyone... I feel like a whole new world has opened up before my eyes. I began this hobby a couple of years ago by connecting a cheap Muse DAC from my HP Compaq Pro 6005 to a refurbished 1978 Advent 300. I spent a couple of weeks ripping all my CDs to FLAC and thought this was the greatest thing. Now I'm discussing DIY Raspberry PI projects, DLNA, downloading BubbleUPnP, NAS, etc.. and it's really exciting. @Master... I got my wife to sit and watch a couple hours worth of Pi YouTube videos (OK, so I had to compromise and watch "Top ten cutest Golden Retrievers" a couple of times, but hey, isn't marriage all about compromises?). I also downloaded BubbleUP (paid) app. Its great. However, it still crashes sometimes when I select JRiver as library and Yamaha as renderer. That never happened using the Yamaha AVR controller app. (Android) Also, I use Gizmo in the car to access my library remotely. I did not find a way to do that with BubbleUP. Is there a way to integrate Gizmo into the BubbleUP app? @Davide... interesting stuff. Is JRiver expected to "catch up" as far as UPnP streaming? In your experience, do you prefer to play back files locally via USB to SPIDF or stream UPnP with Foobar? I imagine you also need to compare apples to apples. A high end DAC solution will be superior to an average DLNA setup, just as streaming via an Aurender or something similar will beat most DACs? Not sure what you mean by a Windows remote controller. An Android app? A physical remote? @Eloise.... I guess I can leave the HDMI solutions strictly for video playback. and audio from BluRay player for the few movies we watch.
  6. Thank you for the responses. You read in the more mainstream electronics websites like CNET to always go with HDMI if you have the option. Its not that the HDMI sounded "bad" or anything, but it was dull and had no presence. Sounded like my old $200 HK AVR. I had just recently purchased that Muse USB to SPDIF converter and tried it, and it was definitely an improvement. I just could not believe the improvement the DLNA streaming made. Is it also a matter of the internal DAC in the Yamaha AVR? I always subscribed to the notion that wired connections are more stable, therefore, "better" than wireless. Having said that, does it matter that the Yamaha AVR is connected via ethernet cable to the same Xfinity modem/router as the PC? The Yamaha AVR also brings a small wifi antenna thingy but I never bothered connecting it. I guess I can try unplugging from the router and connecting the wifi antenna to the back of the Yamaha and see if it makes a difference. Can you elaborate on this a bit, please? I did some research and found this link A Beginner's Guide to DIYing with the Raspberry Pi saying that I need to install Raspbian, a Raspberry Pi-focused version of Linux. Is this necessary for what I'm trying to do? (I swear I am not being lazy. I am doing my research but really have no idea what to read up on) Would the Raspberry then be the DLNA server? Would I be plugging the HDD with all the music files into the Raspberry or the NAS? What about the PC I have now? Would that be completely out of the equation now? and JRiver? A very annoying thing now is that as much as I love the JRiver GUI, and after months of learning how to use it, I cannot use it as a controller. The first couple of files I select will be fine, but then it will inevitably crash if I keep using it. I end up having to use the Yamaha app, which is obviously not as "fun" Again, I really appreciate any info/knowledge you can share with me. I know this is all soooo basic for you, but its still quite a handful for me to absorb. jc
  7. Hello everyone, Long time lurker. Love the amount of knowledge I have acquired from the forum members and I thought I’d take a dive in the water and see if someone can answer something that’s been puzzling me for a bit. My wife surprised me with a Yamaha RX V677 for Christmas and until we buy a house in a few months, it will be part of my “main system.” I use JRiver on a run of the mill HP Compaq desktop SFF with a cheap Radeon HDMI video card I added. I immediately connected the PC via HDMI to the Yamaha (two channels, a pair of NHT VT-2 floor speakers) and after a couple of days of tweaking, I was happy. However, a few days later, just for kicks, I connected a $20 Muse USB to SPDIF (Coax) from the PC to the Yamaha (WASAPI) and it sounded noticeably better. In fact, even 24/192 files that the HDMI cable can play without changing the output sample rate sound better with the Muse that does have to downsample to 48Kh. I spent a few days researching online why that could be and only find a few examples of forum posts where people do the typical back and forth arguing about HDMI jitter levels and whether coax can be better, worse, etc. But here’s the kicker: I then try playing the files using the Yamaha as a DLNA renderer with the Yamaha AV controller phone app and that sounds even better. Is this as a matter of, as a couple of people stated in the Chromecast thread, “getting the PC out of the way”? Any reason why the cheap Muse USB to coax would sound better than the HDMI? Any other thoughts? I am starting to think that my idea to eventually get a better PC and an expensive DAC is not worth it. Maybe I am better investing in a DLNA renderer and keeping my files stored on the cheap PC. Thanks jc
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