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  1. Yeah at this site they only grant us about an hour to edit our posts, after that they're locked in which is why I review each post (and then STILL make mistakes sometimes!).
  2. I'm pretty sure you mean't Definitive Technology speakers, not "Dynamic" Technology. I liked your speaker reviews although mentioning prices would have helped.
  3. I'd like to introduce you all to one of the world's only fully THX-approved 6.3 computer sound systems:
  4. "Ian Paisley, who eventually becomes the vice president of engineering for Mirage, designs a speaker that measures 30Hz to 20kHz +/- ¼ db on axis, possibly the world's flattest frequency response ever. Listening tests, however, reveal that the speaker's performance was perceived as disappointing. Thus, more time was needed researching how people listen and interpret sound waves from a speaker." This perfectly illustrates how subjective sound is, i'm sure some people would cringe listening to my system while others, like myself, really like it.
  5. ^I've never heard the Z600 speakers but my two pairs of Logitech's have been almost universally praised, in fact my Z-2300's were for many years, the paradigm of 2.1 speakers. Ajax, I read some of the well tempered computer's section "to stream or not to stream" but in spite of the name, it doesn't go into the benefits of drawbacks of streaming audio because all I do is play youtube videos. The problem I have with the "everything matters" approach is, I don't believe for a second that human hearing is acute enough to be able to hear a difference between different amplifiers let alone different cables and interconnects which is of course flies in the face of what audiophiles have been saying for decades but who's been convincing them of this? Makers of very expensive amplifiers, cables and interconnects in an attempt to justify their sometimes exorbitant prices. In my experience the two things that shape the sound are the beginning and the end of the audio signal, ie; the source and the speakers because there's no question there's a difference between cassette tape, LP and MP3 just as there's a difference in sound between speaker systems. For example, all i've ever owned are mainstream amplifiers by companies like Pioneer, Sherwood and Yamaha but I used to have a friend that had some high end equipment by Macintosh so I listened to them all night once with him and you know what I heard? The snap, crackle and pop of the LP's he played all night since most of us had moved on to CD's by then. I didn't hear any of the supposed "warmth" offered by his tube amp and we had to wait a while just to use it. Who wants to wait around just to listen to music? Add that to the fact all I listen to is rock music which itself is often distorted to start with, and you might better understand where i'm coming from. I've always been a basshead too so I don't care how great a pair of JBL's or Genelec's can pick up the sound of some guy's fingers plucking the double bass on a Diana Krall song because I never listen to Diana Krall. What I want more than anything is deep, accurate bass, it's all i've ever wanted.
  6. I finally cashed in my airmiles on a set of Klipsch promedia speakers which claim to go down to 31hz and have two way satellites so we'll see if they sound better than my Logitech's.
  7. Putting aside a couple of minor things, this is a great post. I'm not sure where I was previously chastised though so could you copy and paste that for me please. My "tone and general attitude" are not for everyone as some find my bluntness and honesty off-putting (assuming that's what you're referring to) although this has been a much bigger problem for me with women than it has men. Your schooling me on what a DAC is was uncalled for as I never asked, but people often assume that when someone says they don't know something that others think that means they want to learn. While not irrational, it's still a bit of a leap. I however have no interest in learning what a DAC is because I can't afford to buy one although your point about the OP was otherwise valid, much of it was mumbo jumbo to me. Your assumption that your post would anger me is also incorrect as I took it in the vein it was intended, like I said, with these quibbles aside. You've proven to me I don't belong here Ajax but I have nothing but good thoughts and feelings about the people here, I just can't begin to afford the types of equipment the others here have so there's not much point in my continuing here.
  8. Look at the name of the thread. What you posted has nothing to do with it although you're definitely at the right website. I on the other hand don't belong here as evidenced by the fact I don't even know what a DAC is.
  9. Ajax, the JBL LSR305's aren't computer speakers, they're powered studio monitors. Even though this site is "computer audiophile", virtually no one here has any interest in computer speakers.
  10. mistersprinkles, have you ever heard either the logitech z623 or the logitech z2300?
  11. I understand the people here don't want to listen to some newcomer at this site go on about how great his Logitech speakers are so i'll let a couple of professional reviewers give their opinions: "The Z623, simply put, sounds awesome. Film scores from Bernard Hermann sound crisp and foreboding, with deep lows from the strings beautifully represented by the sub and the satellite drivers. Music with deeper bass, like the Knife's "Silent Shout," sounds closer to what the musicians had in mind—powerful-but-well-defined low end—than most 2.1 systems under $200 can deliver. When you blast the system and turn the bass all the way up, you won't hear any distortion—but, again, you'll want to secure fragile items nearby. With each satellite delivering 35 watts and the sub pumping out 130, the Z623 is definitely loud enough for your next party. At moderate and even low levels, it conveys music and dialogue beautifully."-PCMag.com "The sound is deep and rich, and the most 'three-dimensional' we've ever heard from a 2.1 system. Even coming from a laptop's dubious-quality in-built sound card, the sounds of gunfire in our favourite FPS seemed to come from all around us. How soothing. They have to be heard to be believed though, and despite our reservations about the THX certification, it actually seems to mean something here. These come highly recommended."-TechRadar.com They cost me $138 CAN with tax and everything
  12. Here's another list from:The 10 Best Computer Speakers of 2015 | PCMag.com The 10 Best Computer Speakers of 2015 Audioengine 5+ $399.00 $399.00 at Amazon The fantastic, audiophile-friendly Audioengine 5+ speakers sound powerful without a thunderous subwoofer or booming bass. Read the full review ›› Harman Kardon Aura $399.95 $254.00 at Amazon The Harman Kardon Aura is a great-looking, great-sounding, one-piece wireless speaker system. Read the full review ›› KEF X300A $799.99 $799.99 at Amazon KEF has struck gold with the X300A, a high-resolution active desktop speaker system that sounds amazing when connected to any computer. Read the full review ›› Edifier Exclaim e10 $99.99 $69.18 at Amazon The Edifier Exclaim e10 is a good-looking, simple PC speaker system that delivers high-quality audio performance for its under-$100 price. Read the full review ›› Polk Audio Hampden $399.95 $399.95 at Amazon The Polk Audio Hampden is a powerful Bluetooth stereo speaker set that looks as good as it sounds. Read the full review ›› Audioengine 2+ $249.00 $249.00 at Amazon What the Audioengine A2+ stereo speakers lack in extra features, they more than make up for in accuracy and overall performance. Read the full review ›› Definitive Technology Incline $399.00 $229.00 at Amazon Definitive Technology's Incline desktop speakers deliver excellent audio performance that is held back by some quirky design flaws. Read the full review ›› JBL Series 3 LSR305 $199.99 $319.99 at Amazon The JBL Series 3 LSR305 speakers deliver powerful, accurate audio performance with rich lows and a focus on the high-mid range. Read the full review ›› M-Audio BX5 Carbon $149.99 $148.06 at Amazon The M-Audio BX5 Carbon studio monitor speakers deliver accurate, dependable audio in an affordable price range. Read the full review ›› Razer Leviathan $199.99 $169.99 at Amazon The Razer Leviathan puts out large sound for such a small speaker system, but its lack of a remote makes it better suited for your desk than your home theater. Read the full review ››
  13. ^The reason I kept posting and editing was to see what my post looked like since it was one huge cut and paste job. Now that it's done you can see the source. As for my opinion, I think the only speakers that will get any praise at all at this site will be the Grace and the Audioengines.
  14. Top 5 Best Computer Speakers of 2016 from: http://heavy.com/tech/2015/08/top-best-cheap-2-1-computer-pc-speakers-subwoofer/ 1. Audioengine A2+ The Audioengine A2+ is a powered 2.0 speaker system made to work best with computers, despite sporting the durability of studio monitors and the form factor of bookshelf speakers. These speakers have a very small desk footprint, especially considering they do not come with a subwoofer, and even without a separate sub produce a full range of sound. Although they are pricey compared to traditional 2.1 computer speaker setups, they are a solid value as an in-between product that touches on high-end audiophile quality. In addition to its analog 3.5mm and RCA inputs, these speakers also have a USB DAC (digital audio converter), which sounds great. The rear placement of the volume knob is an unfortunate design flaw, but one that can be easily overlooked because of its sound. With only a pair of 2.75-inch subwoofers and 3/4-inch silk dome tweeters, one might not expect much volume from these 60 Watt A2+ speakers, but they deliver a surprising amount of volume. They get far louder than their size should allow, but will ultimately be drowned out by the din of a large party. They do, however, create an enormous soundstage with far-stretching stereo sound. Their frequency range of 65Hz-22kHz makes for a sharp and clear high end sound as well as a punchy low end sound. Bass is somewhat lacking because of the size, but considering this, is overall balanced and clear. Its sound is particularly impressive considering that these speakers do not perform any digital signal processing, which other speakers use to give their cans an artificial boost in bass frequencies. DSP can ultimately improve a speaker’s sound, but more pure, unbiased sound makes for a more authentic listening experience. Plus, if you are hoping to get more bass sound out of these speakers, you can use the analog out ports to connect a subwoofer like the Polk Audio PSW10 and complete the 2.1 setup. Despite the high price tag, these speakers achieve audiophile quality at an enormous value, and as long as you aren’t trying to capture the lowest of low frequencies, the A2+ is an outstanding pick. Price: $249.00 Pros: Bright, balanced sound without digital signal processing Very small footprint Supports integration of a subwoofer Cons: Somewhat lacking in bass High price tag Inconvenient volume knob placement 2. Harman Kardon Soundsticks III 2.1 The Harman Kardon Soundsticks III 2.1 speakers are an absolutely beautiful pair of speakers that delivers equally beautiful sound. The stunning and durable transparent polycarbonate material and modern, rounded shape are so impressive looking, they are the only speakers whose predecessor is a part of the permanent collection at New York City’s Museum of Modern Art. Everything about this pair of speakers is quality, down to its thick silver-lined cable and touch-sensitive controls on the right speaker. It also has a 3.5mm jack as its lone input, neglecting to add an RCA connector or adapter. The angle-adjustable satellite speakers can be articulated upwards to direct sound, and take up very little desk space for the sound they pack. The power button is unfortunately placed on the subwoofer, which is inconvenient, but helps preserve the unique style of these speakers. These 40 Watt speakers deliver great volume, but product an incredibly rich sound with a frequency range of 44Hz – 20kHz. Its satellite speakers have a combined eight full-range 1-inch transducers, which weave together rich highs and mids. The low-end comes from a 6-inch downward-facing subwoofer, which does not provide as big of a kick as it could. All in all, that means for a truly balanced sound, as the bass never overpowers the clarity of the high end. These beautiful, compact speakers can be even more useful too, as they also come in aBluetooth compatible version. This version is at a rather steep price increase for this one extra feature, but if you are getting these for a laptop, it can be an invaluable addition to these fantastic speakers. Price: $169.95 Pros: Beautiful transparent design Full, balanced sound Small footprint Cons: Power button inconveniently placed on subwoofer No analog input Subwoofer buzzes at full volume 3. Logitech Z623 Though the now discontinued Z-2300 speakers are the true fan favorite from Logitech, its sparse availability have led Logitech to create a successor model, their Z623 speakers. True, there is still a chance you can find a used Z-2300 model in good condition online, but a new pair of Z623s will deliver comparable sound quality for about the same price. This 2.1 system is attractive and compact, while still being able to deliver a massive 200 Watt sound with independent bass control for the subwoofer. The power button, volume knob, and bass knob are found on the right speaker, which is connected to the left with an unfortunately proprietary cable. This cable looks like a VGA cable, but is impossible to replace through Logitech, so take care not to damage it. Aside from this, the form factor for these speakers is spot on, and the speaker material resists vibration even when the speakers are at their loudest. All three speakers also have gripping rubber feet and a small overall footprint. Its RCA and 3.5mm inputs are easily accessible on the side of the right speaker. The THX-certified sound from this speaker is phenomenal, with clean high notes and a warm mid-range coming from the satellite speakers. Even at very high volumes, they suffer from little to no harmonic distortion. The speakers also offer solid soundstaging, with more stereo separation than you might think they are capable of. The 7-inch driver on its subwoofer puts out a rich, clear bass sound, which nicely complements the clear high end. The bass can overpower some frequencies if it is turned up too high, but the independent control knob makes it easy to ensure the sub is complementing and not outdoing the song itself. Mysteriously, Logitech does not list specs for this speaker’s frequency response, signal-to-noise ratio, or other crucial specs for comparison. This is presumably because it is outperformed by the Z-2300 with its 8-inch sub driver, but from direct sound comparisons you can tell that the Z623 is not that far off. Sure, the larger speaker will always offer a better frequency response, but the Z623 trades this off for a more compact design without heavily compromising clarity of sound. Price: $129.99 Pros: Exceptional soundstaging and frequency response Small footprint Capable of loud 200 Watt output Cons: Proprietary speaker connection wire is inconvenient Slightly outperformed by discontinued Z-2300 speakers Short cables limit placement 4. Grace Digital GDI-BTSP201 Grace Digital’s GDI-BTSP201/208 are an attractive pair of high fidelity bookshelf speakers that masquerade as computer speakers. They have a leather-like stitched polyurethane covering, and are available in black or white (the model numbers are different but the specs are the same). Source, play/pause, track skip, and volume controls are conveniently placed on the top of the left speaker. However, a USB charge-out port and power button are more inconveniently placed on the back of the speaker. There is also has an RCA port in the back, which comes with an RCA-to-3.5mm adapter, however the most convenient way to listen to these speakers is through Bluetooth 4.0. Wireless Bluetooth listening is convenient because it allows you to place the speakers anywhere in the room, rather than being force to put them on your desk. Likewise, it is incredibly simple to switch devices, so you can use these speakers for a desktop, laptop, and tablet (just not all at once, obviously). One flaw of the Bluetooth connection is that the speakers automatically disconnect if no audio is played after 10 minutes, which can be troublesome for some styles of use. Speaking to the sound of these Grace Digital speakers, these 36 Watt speakers absolutely dominated the expectations I set for them. They can deliver an impressive frequency range of 50Hz – 20kHz, which given their small size, is outstanding. Considering that each speaker only has a 1-inch tweeter drive, and a 3.5-inch woofer drive unit, so the sound won’t be enough to beat out a large crowd. Regardless, the onboard bass is solid thanks to the bass reflex tunnel in the back, though not as low as one could get with a larger subwoofer. Still, the mids and highs are crisp and clear, revealing musical complexities and generally brightening tracks with a full sound. At higher volume levels, the highs can be a bit harsh, but you will still be satisfied with this speaker at just a quarter volume. Grace Digital’s Bluetooth speakers have some quirks, but are all in all defined by their fantastic quality. Price: $183.55 Pros: Bluetooth 4.0 makes for diverse listening options Great volume and frequency range for their size USB charge-out port Cons: No connection for subwoofer Speakers shut off after 10 minutes of idle time Power button inconveniently placed 5. Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 Klipsch’s ProMedia 2.1 speakers are a boisterous pair of speakers that get serious about volume and bass. These hefty speakers take their sound to the extreme, and do so in style. The speakers are stylish, and and my very own pair looks great sitting on my desk. The right speaker houses the conveniently placed, yet touchy volume knobs, plus easy to access 3.5mm ports for audio devices and headphones. Note that RCA connections or any included adapter are absent on this digital speaker. The wires to plug the satellites into the sub are long, which make positioning these speakers easy, but the wire is also quite thin. A power button is sorely missing on these speakers. When it comes to sound, these THX-certified 200 Watt monsters sound crystal clear and get unbelievably loud. At their highest volume, they do start to distort, but this is because of some unique sound modifications. These speakers employ what Klipsch calls “digital-hybrid-amplifier-driven” sound, which is just a really complicated way of saying heavy digital signal processing. This combined with the unusually high crossover frequency for the speaker’s 3-inch long-throw subwoofer means that this speaker can sometimes sound almost too bassy. Although the Promedia speakers already sport a solid 31Hz – 20 kHz frequency range, these speakers play like they exceed that, with incredibly deeps lows that are rich and booming. That makes this speaker an easy pick for bassheads, but again, some may be off-put by it, as even at the lowest bass setting, the subwoofer is on. Highs and mids are present, but obviously has the show stolen from them somewhat by the low-end. Each speaker has a tweeter and mid-range driver, but the tweeters seem to be a bit of a high point, whereas the mid-range sound falls a little flat. The overall sound is rich, though, and makes for an incredible listening experience, especially when you just want to crank things up. Price: $149.99 Pros: Incredible volume Sturdy and durable Powerful low-end sound Cons: Touchy control knobs Strange crossover frequency for the subwoofer Distorts at highest frequency
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