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abrewer

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  1. Hi everybody I dug up this old thread after I Googled "Audiogon sucks" Today I experienced at the hands of Audiogon one of the worst days I can ever remember with regard to shameless human nature, ethical bankruptcy and technological frustration. I sold a pair of B&W monitors for $400 to a "member" over there with a DC area physical address. He corresponds as "Richard Stahl", who coincidentally died two years ago. He was a bankruptcy lawyer in Fairfax VA. The user's screen-name is wm7MMCX (or WM72110 if you are quick) and has no feedback at all. Out of the blue I get an email, now two days after dispatching the speakers by UPS (his choice, not mine) in a sturdy printer-paper box, stuffed solidly into medium bubble wrap and wrapped tight in 3" packing tape, that my sales proceeds are "Pending: On Hold" at request of the buyer. No correspondence with this buyer at all, no clue there's a problem...just my speakers in his hands and the money out of mine. I was furious. I email the guy. He says the speakers are trash: they "slid together" inside the box (which was so tight they could barely move when I packed), the back of one speaker is sheered off, a screw is laying loose in the box, the grilles are trashed, et al. I'm going "HUH? WTF?" I've never heard of stuff traveling even UPS Ground from Indiana to DC being turned into rubble so quickly and thoroughly as this. There is no photographic proof from the buyer. He has filed no claim with the carrier. He's just filed a dispute with PayPal and blind-sided me. So I put into an email to PayPal what my side of the story is, and within an hour there is a dispute resolution delivered to me: he wins, he is sending the trashed speaks to me and when he does he gets all his money back and I'm left holding the bag. I'm like, again, "WTF?" Emails back to PayPal and it's the old "This is a DO NOT REPLY" email address. Please visit our dispute resolution center" which you cannot send anything to anyone there either. Emails to Audiogon. Nothing, except they act like I am the criminal and ban me (with at least $100 in active ads outstanding still, some of which are in negotiation for a sale price). No consideration for six or seven perfect years of occasional sales without a single incident. And I am losing this to a member using a dead man's name as his own under a goofy alias (that probably is the guy's real initials and zipcode), and when I Zillow the physical address the speakers went to it's a million-dollar plus home in the DC suburbs in the Potomac MD area--rich folks, people, who piss away $400 on birthday cakes for their fucking dog. So I am hot, really fucking hot and post a nasty ad with this clown's "name and alias" that of course gets pulled, as is the re-list of the original ad with why the stuff is back on sale. And a "suspension" email that fails to address all the ad money and stuff I've got out for sale. I have always thought of audiophiles as being a quirky little community, where we at least have the common respect of our peers for our eccentricities. What I have found out is Audiogon may at one time been like that, but it is no longer and is in the possession of people who care more about THEIR reputation, and THEIR profit and THEIR asses more than they do for the people who read the ads and pay the bills. How else to explain a complete drumming from the site, with money on the line, with fakery and fraud right there in front of them but no will to do anything but keep the wheels of the buck-a-click bus rolling. Screw them. I'll post on here and other narrower interest sites from now on and be a happier camper in every respect. All good things come to an end. It's obvious the end is beyond "here" and is sitting in the drivers' seat at Audio-Chump.
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