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Jeffca, do you think you could muster up a more cogent title than "Fremer is an Idiot"? Come on man. You're the kind of problem he talks about in his rebuttal. This kind of talk lends nothing to the discussion when it starts off attacking the subject on a personal level.<br /> <br /> If you're looking for comprehensive tests, get a subscription to Stereophile, you'll find plenty of them every month.<br /> <br /> If you think Bob Carver can make a Carver sound like a McIntosh, you're on something really good.