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So we can trade non existent product for iems that no one has heard and seems very highly priced compared to campfire audio??

It is expected to magically appear below the buttons. Even though this is the "final" drawing. of course we have heard this before: FAQ: Why Geek Wave project took so long?Modified on: Sun, 17 Sep, 2017 at 5:54 AMStage 6/ RC1: This is the current stage we are now. PCB fabrication is done of Release Candidate 1. And PCBA is scheduled to be done before the end of this month. We will have an updated Gantt Chart for the details in the other article.Yes. The whole project took several detours of fundamental platform or CPU changing. Also, in order to get the best performance, we didn't compromise to use existing Android systems or leverage some platform designed for Android phones. These are the few key factors that played in schedule delay. If we could go back in time, we definitely will skip few wasted steps and go to the conclusion we have now. Saving time is to save cost. So we truly believe LH Labs' members are just like all backers, we are eager to finish this project without cut corners.Currently, we have Larry and Matt/Gerber boy working on the final hardware changes if needed. We have Craig and two to work on high level software and user interface. Jessy is in middleware layer and display driver. Lan and his team is on the Operation System level and audio output software optimization. We just recruited another good hardware manufacturer project manager/leader in Asia that will come on board in early Nov. Our production leader, Sandi will work with him hand in hand to make production cycle smooth.We really want to express our most sincere thanks for you great patience and understanding. We will keep pushing to finish this project. Like the other 13 projects we did before. This one is big and this one is tough. But we will make it. I especially like :"Like the other 13 projects we did before"

how can they be "separate" companies when Light harmonic ended up with the crowd funded designs: http://lightharmonic.com/source-pro-music-server/

It is amazing how many products were unfinished. If they had been finished he could have teamed up with a chinese manufacturer or Drop (MassDrop) to execute production. Instead we have a few sample products in the wild that are reported to have sort of worked at one time. It would be nice to know how the "money" was spent. Did he get caught in the "we can make it still better" spiral? Did he lose interest in each project before the troubling "production" details were finished? Did the prototypes prove unproducible or way over production "budget"? It seems that one project could have been finished with the 3-5 million and it would have funded the company thru each product in turn. Schiit Audio has boot strapped a very successful company in the same state with currently 29 products and have evolved/discontinued another dozen products in the same time we have waited for larry to finish one. And Schiit didn't have the "benefit" of pre selling 10 products to get the cycle started. Indiegogo should share some blame in keeping their 10% with no follow up.

Fiio - 18 (that is just portable players like wave not Amps, dac amps or IEM's A&K - 26 players - if you count the various materials for cases (not colors), i think they might make a couple other products. But who is counting - Larry has only been working on the Wave since 2014, so it obviously will bt the Ultimate Player and there will be no need for either of these guys to build another one. They should quit while they are ahead! https://www.fiio.com/supports https://www.astellnkern.com/eng/content/shop/allProduct_grid.asp

Don't Forget Gavin !!!!!!