beerandmusic

most AVR's, blu-ray players, and many integrated amplifiers also have both network and dac as well....before DSD dacs were even popular, i used a sony blu-ray player and DLNA freeware as part of my main system.

But who knows what "jitter" is audible anyway (grin). I still say for my ears, many times hdmi sounds much better than analog out of many/most universal disc players that i have heard. They usually sound more dynamic and better bass, but i guess that just means that the dac in the avr (in my case, i use a marantz sr6013 as a preamp) is better than the dac in the universal disc player regardless of hdmi jitter. I don't argue on these sites much anymore as my hearing has continued to get worse (smile)....seems like not much i throw at my system makes it sound "next level" in my budget anymore. I will always try new amps and speakers though (grin)....i just found out nelson reed made a vintage low end speaker with an ATC midrange...that might be interesting.

i am referrring to the "box" that gmgraves purchased that converts the hdmi signal to i2s for the dac. I would think that some hdmi protocol would be needed to convert it.

but isnt the hdmi protocol used in the conversion? How else would the audio signal be translated? To be honest, to my ears, I have many times thought that hdmi sounded pretty damn good (at least compared to typical bluray internal dacs).

I thought i have heard for many years that hdmi was an inferior interface because of jitter and why no one uses hdmi in the "audiophile" world?

Well I got my Gustard A18 and it sounds as good or better than any DAC I have heard, and I am pleased. Most notably is depth and detail especially with native DSD256.

before the dac all that exists is digital music and noise....and the digital music is received perfectly, so nothing left to compensate for besides noise.

I asked Barrows the same question comparing to the Teac Nt503 about 4 years ago and he couldn't answer and the teac was only about $1k if i remember. I am not convinced it would sound any better than just streaming to a marantz nd8006....put your money in speakers.

i have been using sony blu-ray players to stream dsd since 2013 and i think the Teac NT503 network dac came out in 2014?

how did the qutest compare with your hegel dac? I thought about trying "chord magic" after Davide talks up his mojo so much, but then ran into someone else that had the mojo and said it sounds the same as any other dac he has owned, and has had pretty much same experience as me, hoping for an appreciable upgrade from a dac and never getting one. Qutetst was going to be my last hope...curious if i will hear any real appreciable difference.

do you happen to know if the remote allowed you to power off the unit with long-hold, or no way to turn off with remote?

sorry, i didnt make the video or the cover...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuRHSt-6fHk