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I do not thing that 4GB of RAM is future proof. We decided to go for the 2,6 Ghz Mac Mini with 8 GB RAM + external drive. The mini is our media server, running a huge iTunes Library and streaming Films/Netflix. Performance is fine and for audio I use a USB/AES bridge from Bryston named BUC-1 (my monitors are connected digitally).

I am as well Genelec user (1238a) and active in the Genelec Forums: it's complicated. Up to now, there is no AutoCal available in Yosemite, other GML 1.5 features work. There is no indication when an update will be delivered. As for GML 2.0, it will control 8000 series and 123x series as well, this information is in the forum, however, this will require the new GML 2.0 units, Genelec promised an "upgrade offer" for users, that has not been detailed yet: Genelec Community Forum • View topic - GLM 1.0 trade-in / upgrade offer.. And again, there is no OS X client for GML 2.0 right now, it has been stated to be provided within Q1/2015.

No, that's fine, just ask. It's just stereo, for multichannel (which I need less frequently) I have an external DD-Pre (my old Rotel) connected to the Genelecs via their analogue inputs. Sat and Mac are connected via HDMI.

The Bryston BUC-1 I mentioned briefly above, see Bryston Limited: BUC-1 USB Converter

Quite some time has passed - finally, my new Genelecs have been delivered today. I decided to go with the new 1238a. Quite impressive speakers, both in size and in music. After a quick calibration with the GML Manager I spent quite some time experiencing well-known music like never before While interested in the Stello at first, I finally went with the Bryston BUC-1, source is a Mac and level is controlled by GML.

Once again a good response chart. Thanks Udayan for posting this one. I am more and more convinced to get Genelecs. The new SAM models 1237a/1238a seem to be already in production - I will wait until those become available and then try to get a demo with both 8260a and 1237a. And of course I will report my findings here

Hi Pete, thanks for your offer, unfortunately, there are approximately 1.200 km between us. More thanks for your answers, the picture is getting clearer and it's definitely a good plan to start with a pair of 8260s first and then reconsider (borrow and test) the subs. I tend to believe that two (dsp) subs might better "flood" the room and address room specific problems due to easier placement. I really like the room response in your picture. My measurements of the passive setup show much deeper and therefore uncorrectable dips. You seem to have quite a good room and well positioned speakers (close to the front wall regarding the massive bass boost?) and listening position with just minor dips in the response. And the rest, where the level is too high, is well handled by the Genelec DSP. Just out of curiosity: do you have a picture of your room? How far is the distance between speakers and your listening position?

Well, it's complicated. First, there is no good space for a dedicated center, in my current passive system, the center is placed on the floor, it's tweeter 80cm below those of the front speaker. No beamer here, large TV placed 30cm from the floor. Second, my main focus is stereo as mentioned before. I will try with a virtual center at first. However, if you recommend to go without subs, I think, you also solved the problem: Stereo: Mac -> USB -> AES -> 8260 Digital In 5channel: Rotel Digital Pre (with Tuner, DVD, SAT, Mac connected) -> Analog out -> 8260/8240 Analog In Additional question: is there any difference between single wire and dual wire AES despite mono/stereo subs? Are both 24/196? At first, I just had the 8260s on my list. Recently I found out, that Genelec had announced two further SAM monitors 1237a/1238a. There is not much information online on them, no manuals, no prices. Do you have any information on those? (I also posted a question on the Genelec forum). Edit: I always forget to mention - there are two listening positions, the room is 9x4.6, the main position in the living room (speaker distance around 2.5) and another one at the table in the dining room (were we also work on our notebooks), 2m-2.5m straight behind of the main position.

Hey DigiPete, thanks for your long post, my comments/clarifications are inline: - Despite the current setup years ago, nope. Rotel Pre + 5-channel amp, B&W 803, Meridian CD, Raspberry PI running Volumio (and other things like Tuner, DVD, Sat Receiver...) - Timeline, don't know. Maybe soon - I'll definitely buy the Mac Mini as soon as Apple releases the update to replace the Raspberry (and to free my Macbook) - Your last question is trickier: my main goal is a "perfect" digital stereo setup, Mac Mini -> USB -> AES/EBU -> 2x Genelec Subs and 2x 8260. - In addition, I want to + play 5.1. from Mac Mini (stream, rip, dvd) + play 5.1. from my satellite receiver + (less important) adding an analog input to the system, such as a tuner, however, as stated above, I could add an inexpensive AD, to keep it simple with digital inputs only. At first, I had the idea to connect Mac Mini digitally to the Genelecs and connecting my current Rotel Pre analog to the Genelecs (and even buying non-DSP Genelecs for rear) but then I realized, the subs are digital in only - The DSP-Subs (I might take 2x7260) have no analog in - I did not know the fact about dual wire for stereo subs instead dual mono. That's interesting. The subs will be placed "stereo" at the front wall, the fronts free standing. I mainly want to achieve a more stable sweet spot and better handling of room modes, therefore mono subs should work fine. - I should have mentioned that I am a computer scientist. I am well aware about the software side on the Mini, audio and video. I am already running Amarra/Audirvana (and iTunes) and Volumio on the Raspberry. I am lacking the "connection" part, the necessary interface between Mac and Genelecs for stereo and multichannel. - I already found the Stello for stereo - The Lynx is a bit expensive, as is the Weiss - any alternatives? - 8 channels is more than needed, or? - My signal needs: stereo 24/196 from Mini, multi channel dolby dd/dts from Mini and from the satellite receiver. 5.1 is highly sufficient.

Let me start with a little introduction as I am new to this forum. I am from Europe, around 38 years old and quite some time in music. Currently, I have a rather traditionell setup consisting of B&W 803, Rotel digital preamp/5 channel amp and a Meridian CD. Lately, I started with lossless music (mostly in HD or own rips from CD), currently powered by a Raspberry PI and Volumio or directly via my Macbook. Additionally, I started research on room correction, both physically (limited, the room is 9x4.6m and serves as living and dining room) and digitally. Not long, and I thought about going active and digital. Stereo: - Front Genelec 8260 DSP, 2 Genelec DSP Subs 7260, computer controlled via Mac. - Mac Mini as digital source (just waiting for Apple to update it), running Genelec GML software, volume control via Genelec Software directly in the speakers. - Still lacking a device for USB to AES/EBU (24/196; Weiss? Stella?) and then if I understand correctly, one cable will go to sub1, from sub1 to sub2 and from sub 2 to the Genelec front speakers. The benefits I see: the system is full digital, analog conversion takes place at the last step, the speakers can be calibrated individually, two thoroughly calibrated subwoofers should help to minimize room influence. How about home cinema? (Home cinema is by far not so important for us and there is no need for 5-channels music, we don't really like it) - Rear 8240 DSP; Center, I think about trying without a dedicated center and mixing it front. In my current setup, I don't see that the center is really necessary; option to add later still required. - Streaming via Mac Mini - Sell DVD Player, let Mac Mini play DVDs (we are not much in DVDs) Now, if I understand the docs correctly, I need separate AES/EBU outputs for front, rear and sub. However, then the Mac would have to to the Dolby Digital/DTS processing in software? And this is the point, I am stuck: - How to get multichannel output directly to the Genelecs - What software is necessary - Where can the system be influences, e.g. mixing center to front Another major problem: how to get digital (SPDIF) multichannel output of the satellite receiver to the Genelecs or analog input like a radio tuner without sacrificing my direct stereo setup? I definitely do not want to route my stereo music from the Mac Mini via the dolby digital preamp. I have no problem if the analog input is digitized at an early stage, so an inexpensive DAC might help and reduce the problem how to route several digital inputs (stereo and multichannel) to the Genelecs. And, of course, I am happy about general recommendations/advices to the setup sketched - and please tell me, I you think, this is a bad idea for some reason!