Larry Ho

Hi, Really thanks for letting people know more details. Here is what I confirm. 1) Light Harmonic and LH Labs are both operational. 2) We didn't pick up the phone for customer service but our customer service team do answer averagely 30 ~ 50 tickets per day. 3) I spent more time recently in Asia because there are many key components (like memory, screen and battery) are located there. 4) I'm truly sorry for the slow R&D progress on Geek Wave player. We will make more good updates and targeted ship out date in Indiegogo. 5) We didn't use Wave or Pulse's money to support other products. Actually we are doing normal retail selling for Tesla Speakers/GO2A and other products to sponsor the R&D cost of Wave. And the original fund related to wave is not the big number shown on the campaign. That Wave campaign contains headphone, earbud, Source... and so on. 6) I just replied one message on head-fi.org. I tried to jump in different forums but the best thing I want to do is to hire a good customer service professional to work with us. Larry

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Hi, Alex Geek Pulse is finalizing the component picking up. Because we reach the $1M together, so now everyone got a FREE upgrade for the best passive components. Remember? So your 'basic' Geek Pulse won't be Basic again. Now, I'm working on picking some good caps for decoupling and bypassing. Sorry, it needs some time... And this can not be done by testing equipment. Geek Blue, LPS will be easier. They will ship out first. The Geek Pulse first batch as we stated in update, will start in June. Thanks,

Finding out the best clock in right frequency is a challenge too. CCHD-957 can not go up to 98M/90M Hz region. When you use higher frequency master clock, your reclock and buffer works better. ESS DAC IC loves higher frequency too. But now you are trading some low frequency jitter when you double the master clock frequency. Femto sounds easy, but that is not the whole story. And that is why in the end, we customized the clocks and order something in our specs from Crystek for Geek Pulse.

Your daughter is lucky. She got a wonderful daddy...

All Geek Out 1000mW will be out tomorrow, maybe very few left for Saturday. And we complete the first part. Geek Out 450 will be the next, the new testing points/procedures/audio precision script has been made too. Some of the pilot units are under the test, so far so good.... We really run these little guys heavily under the test. So actually a lot of them should already reach the burn-in status.. ;-) Kelly and Rich is working so hard to meet the quality standard and ship out as quick as possible. And yes, we learned a lot from this process. Larry

You are right. Geek Wave and phone could be both connected and un-connected. When connected, Geek Wave could act like Phone's DAC. Getting music samples from phone. This is a TWO in ONE design. And there will be a software on the Phone. And that could remote control the Geek Wave. About the physical buttons, it's been discussed in Geek Forum. Now the plan is to have Play/Pause, Previous and Next. Thanks

We have the meeting today. And that part has been removed. ;-) We will keep improving the video according to your feedbacks. Thank you!! Larry

I know you guys sincerely want to give us a helpful feedback. Your points are well taken. We will have a meeting tomorrow about that. Thank you!

Yes. You got it right. And don't want to beat the dead horse again. We have successfully duplicate the same test results with Stereophile on Dragonfly. From the feedback, we learn that there are many different versions. 1.0, 1.0C and 1.2... When we set the loading from 100K to 300Ohm, and decrease the bandwidth from 90K Hz to 20K Hz. We got the exact same THD number like JA: 3.8%... And when we reduce the output to -10dB, the clipping issue was gone. There is no right or wrong on different testing parameters setting. And absolute value here is not for reference. But when we using the same machine, same parameter to cross test the different products, the result is fair and revealing. Cheers, Larry

Thanks for your question. We already published the digital to analog performance of Geek Pulse long time ago, that is USB input vs balanced analog output. The new test there is related to its digital input interface (SPDIF and AES), because this is another important part of the system so we hope our backers know the current progress. Audio digital interface is 'not' like your hard drive transmission, because that is REAL time and NO re-try... If you said this measurement is useless, then basically that means every SPDIF or AES interface performance is the same... which I think a lot of people not only me won't agree. SPDIF and AES signal is based on NRZ protocol and they embedded the clock signal within the audio data. On receiver side, it needs to make sure the input signal as jitter-free as possible, so when we use PLL to recover the master clock from the data, it will have the best performance for the next stage, which is digital-to-analog stage. I have been asked many times for the similar question in USB interface too. People ask since they use USB Hard drive or USB printer that never got a bit of error. Why bother with Asynchronous USB interface or buffer... this kind of stuff. The answer is the same: the real time transmission nature of digital music, and the SPDIF or USB Audio protocol design itself could not guarantee the bit perfect, 100% error free transmission. That is why people are investing their time and money here. :-)

I already list our testing settings there... Including 90K bandwidth, 300R load and none-weighted there... You could check it out. Of course a lot of media people will get Geek Out and test it. Actually a lot of them already bought it! I'm waiting for their test results show up. Time will tell. Under different testing settings will have different test results. And all the DACs are tested in the same condition, same machine, same cable by the same people during a short period of time. So instead of picking one absolution value, using JA's measuring value compared with mine, the relative values is more important. For example, JA got 3.8% THD from Dragonfly. I got 5%... I would say both are right, because measuring difference between 90K Hz and 20KHz, loading from 100K (200K) to 300Ohm... all possible. And when analog IC got clipping, one could be 4%, one could be more, since that is not a ideal working condition. Using that 3.8% vs 5% as a prove of I'm intentionally against our competitor is a very weak argument. And one thing I'm quite amazing: We publish that testing result inside our Geek Force forum. And we just hope our Geek Out backers knows how good their perk will be. Why suddenly it looks like this becomes a media focus? We didn't quote it here or in Audiostream...(I know Audioquest is a bigger company. Especially when I wrote this message, its big read banner is hanging on top of this forum.) Time will tell.... Larry

Hi, Steve Thanks for clear this out. Now we know why. If possible, I will try to get the Dragonfly V1.2 and test again. Is that public available now? Larry

Few simple facts here... 1. Dragonfly do have clipping in -0dBFS. John Atkinson also mentioned in his review. He needs to dial down a few clicks to get normal result. IF there is a need to do a special favorable treatment to Dragonfly. I could do that, actually I did it in our first test. The THD+N is still around -70dB or so. Or if I do that, Meridian and iFi will jump out say: Not Fair? ;-) 2. JTEST is only a simulation of the simplest way jitter by toggle LSB... The JTEST doesn't have the 32 bit version yet, at least to my knowledge so I decide to skip it. Also, there are many professions claim that test is not accurate. 3. As an US manufacturer, I won't have any special favor for an UK vendor. We did Explore, iDSD and Dragonfly at the same time. Meridian Explorer is normal there... Machine won't discriminate. 4. We have the most advanced 1G bandwidth scope on hand. With the distortion I saw on Dragonfly's output wave, we really don't need the big gun scope there.... Again, even if Audio Precision is NOT good enough, and don't need to see Geek out's test result. Why iDSD is performing much better than Dragonfly? Do I need to favor iDSD? :-) One friend from Google is sending me 3 more good DACs, including Herus, micro streamer and D3. I'm gonna publish that with the original test results. Don't worry. Truth is the daughter of the time. Enjoy!

I'm glad you like it. But wait... Give it two weeks, keep playing it. You will find another new level of improvement. Quite a few reviewers they found it too.... Enjoy!