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View Classified Allo DigiOne Signature with RPi 4 and accessories I'm selling this only because I changed systems, as part of the constant curiosity about what else is 'out there'. I purchased everything brand new back in August of 2020, and only used it a handful of times over the span of less than a year. This means that everything is basically 'new', and the batteries have only been cycled around 10 times. Also of note, I built this very carefully, even using white gloves to avoid getting fingerprints on the PCBs or inside of the case. I have decades of experience working with computers and electronics as well. The Raspberry PI4 is the 2gb version. The included A123 18650 LiFePo4 batteries are regarded as the most reliable and best quality. These are also reported by many, including Allo, to give the best sound when powering the Digione Signature. As can be seen in the pictures, I wired the battery holder with an inline toggle switch, which makes it much easier to turn the system on and off. Without this, one would have to just unplug the USB-C cable every time, which I thought was a bit crude. Also included is a 5ft BlueJeans BNC cable. The other cable pictured is a microUSB with bare ends for powering the RPI4 with something that has screw terminals. I used an Astron linear power supply with the exact voltage needed, for example (but this isn't included in the sale). Additionally I'm including the Samsung 32gb Pro Endurance MicroSD card, which I've freshly formatted, ready for any operating system of choice. The only thing needed from the new user is a power supply for the RPI4 (even the stock wall-wart would do fine), and a charger for the batteries (make sure it supports LiFePo4). This is a beautiful sounding endpoint, and I cannot say that anything I've heard has been objectively 'better'. I can ship to US and Canada, and local pickup is available in the Syracuse or Montreal area. Thanks for looking, and feel free to ask any further questions. Seller tea_hous Date 05/21/22 Price 240.00 USD Category Music Servers / Streamers  

View Classified SOtM sMS-200ultra & sPS-500 + 7N UPOCC Silver cable I've decided to sell my music server as I've actually 'downgraded' to a pi2aes which has AES outputs that I'm enjoying with my Yggy. Included is an sMS-200ultra that has the optional feature of running on 12v. Also included is the sPS-500 power supply, as well as an upgraded 30cm 7N UPOCC Silver DC cable. Additionally, I'm including my Sandisk Extreme Plus 64gb microSD card. Just this morning I freshly formatted it with the newest version of Eunhasu (the operating system), and verified that there were no more updates available within the Eunhasu update section. This means it's as close to turn-key, plug-and-play as can be for the next user. About the condition -- I'm an extremely careful owner. These have always been run in a cool room, and both units were only powered on when I was actually listening to music. They were always plugged into a high performance power conditioner, which was always unplugged during storms or threatening weather. Additionally, when not in use, these were covered with a cotton cloth to keep dust out, and were also never allowed to be exposed to direct sunlight for any part of the day. So yes, I am OCD with my gear, and I thus do believe these are deserving of the 10/10 condition I rated them. I used them for a few years, but only occasionally within that period were they actually 'used', in that they were turned on. I'm not home half the time, and even when I am, I'm not always listening to music on my "big" system. I purchased them directly from a reputable dealer within the US. Shipping is free anywhere in Canada or US if purchased at my asking price. All original boxes and padding are included, and is what will be used for shipping. The padding is very good, surrounded by custom cut foam, so they should easily survive the rigors of transport. The two custom SOtM boxes will be packed together in a larger box with additional padding (bubble wrap, foam, etc.). I also have all the original literature that came with both units, and will also include a stock IEC power cable. Local pickup also available within both the Syracuse and Montreal area. Expect each unit to be in the same shape as when purchased new. Let me know if any further questions arise. Seller tea_hous Date 05/19/22 Price 1,300.00 USD Category Music Servers / Streamers  

Thanks for the reply! The sMS and PC are both hard wired directly to my router with CAT6. I'm not sure what settings I need to adjust in the Eunhasu page -- it's pretty minimal -- things like computer name and whether to use IPv6 (which I tried). To counterpoint this, Roon works perfectly using the exact same system. This has me wondering if there is a compatibility issue between Schiit's Unison USB and HQPlayer... maybe it's showing that it is 'off' somehow, even though it is 'on'... I don't know.

Hey everyone. I'm having some issues getting the HQPlayer NAA to run on my sMS-200ultra. I'm hoping someone has some insight or solutions from having been in a similar situation, because I'm stumped... I posted this as a separate topic, and it was immediately suggested that I come here instead, so... here I am. I've had the sMS for a couple years, and it has worked flawlessly as a Roon endpoint. For the first time, yesterday, I downloaded HQPlayer to try out the ability to stream live audio from another PC through the network. I installed HQPlayer NAA on the sMS, but just couldn't see it on the network no matter what I tried. Poking around, I realized that the issue seems to be on the sMS (Eunhasu) software... Every time I try to make HQPlayer NAA "active", it just refuses to run... Every time I press the 'play' button, it just acts busy for a while, and sometimes I need to refresh the page after a long time, whereby is always ends up "inactive". I've tried rebooting the sMS and reinstalling the software with all different combinations of settings, including setting IPv6 mode on both the sMS and in the HQPlayer settings, setting a static IP, making sure to reboot after installing but before trying to make it "active"... The only time it shows as being "active" is when I first reboot the sMS after installing HQPlayer NAA... but, this is reporting falsely because as soon as I refresh the webpage for Eunhasu, it's right back to 'inactive', and I have never been able to find the server on the network from another computer. As another test, I downloaded HQPlayer NAA on one PC and tried to access it remotely from a second PC. This worked instantly, perfectly, which is further evidence that the problem lies in the sMS / Eunhasu. I'm actually without any ideas for other solutions at this point, so I'm reaching out. Yes, I've e-mailed SoTM about this, and am awaiting a response, but I'm not sure how long they will take to respond, and someone here may have an answer as well... It really feels like a software bug to me, but there is no option to try to install a previous version through the simple menus of Eunhasu. It couldn't be network issues because the same exact setup works perfectly with Roon... same architecture, and everything is hard wired. Also important to note is that all software is current and up to date on the sMS-200Ultra, and otherwise running flawlessly. Also, it's feeding a Yggdrasil V2 with Unison USB. Thanks for any insight!

Ah, ok -- thanks... probably no way to move the existing thread though? I wouldn't want to duplicate...

Hey everyone. Just as the title states, I'm having some issues getting the HQPlayer NAA to run on my sMS-200ultra. I'm hoping someone has some insight or solutions from having been in a similar situation, because I'm stumped... I've had the sMS for a couple years, and it has worked flawlessly as a Roon endpoint. For the first time, yesterday, I downloaded HQPlayer to try out the ability to stream live audio from another PC through the network. I installed the HQPlayer NAA on the sMS, but just couldn't see it on the network no matter what I tried. Poking around, I realized that the issue seems to be on the sMS (Eunhasu) software it's self... Every time I try to make HQPlayer NAA "active", it just refuses to run... Every time I press the 'play' button, it just acts busy for a while, and sometimes I need to refresh the page after a long time, whereby is always ends up "inactive". I've tried rebooting the sMS and reinstalling the software with all different combinations of settings, including setting IPv6 mode on both the sMS and in the HQPlayer settings, setting a static IP, making sure to reboot after installing but before trying to make it "active"... The only time it shows as being "active" is when I first reboot the sMS after installing HQPlayer NAA... but, this is reporting falsely because as soon as I refresh the webpage for Eunhasu, it's right back to 'inactive', and I have never been able to find the server on the network from another computer. As another test, I downloaded HQPlayer NAA on one PC and tried to access it remotely from a second PC. This worked instantly, perfectly, which is further evidence that the problem lies in the sMS / Eunhasu. I'm actually without any ideas for other solutions at this point, so I'm reaching out. Yes, I've e-mailed SoTM about this, and am awaiting a response, but I'm not sure how long they will take to respond, and someone here may have an answer as well... It really feels like a software bug to me, but there is no option to try to install a previous version through the simple menus of Eunhasu. It couldn't be network issues because the same exact setup works perfectly with Roon... same architecture, and everything is hard wired. Also important to note is that all software is current and up to date on the sMS-200Ultra, and otherwise running flawlessly. Thanks for any insight!

Good to hear, thanks for that... I guess we can quickly put the skipping thing to bed as a myth, before false rumors spread like wildfire. Likewise, a review from any of the sources mentioned would be great... And thanks for the mini review of the 200U... I just purchased the same setup, so it's good to hear. The uR and sMS-200Ultra are of the same class and the two standout choices for their specific purpose right now... The SrSE being another superb choice in the renderer category, but its price separates it from these two. Still, it would be great if the SrSE was thrown into said fantasy review for good measure :). I'm guessing we who are using specialized renderer solutions are very much in the minority of the audiophile world still, so there just isn't enough interest or demand for a major reviewer to put the time and resources into it. A large portion of the community are still thinking "digital is just 1s and 0s, how could there be a difference?". Then another portion of the community are set up with computer server solutions with JPlay, AO, and Fidelizer, like we all were before network streaming reached audiophile stardom. Then of course yet another portion of the community are strictly analogue guys... Etc., etc.

Just to add a 'me too', I also would love to hear an in depth comparison between the two... I've been following this thread for months! It's concerning that the sMS-200ultra skips... whaaaa? I wonder if this is due to processing power, memory, or if it could be easily mitigated with a firmware or driver update (or perhaps it already has been). Or, perhaps it's a handshake issue between that particular DAC... Typical computer problems (shrug).

A bit delayed here, but thanks guys. I don't know... It sounds like the field of differing opinions are revolving around the base question of whether there is a difference between sources feeding the Eitr, as opposed to that being a given and the debate revolving around *which* feed is better. And, yes, of course personal system and ears all have a large hand here as well. Taking this observation in as a whole, my guess is that your source still makes a difference, but the delta between, say a mR and uR just dropped from 20% to 1% when going through Eitr. This leads me to think the best bet is to play the middle ground. For example, pick up something nice like an Ultrarendu, which has amazing sound quality and the functionality I seek, but avoid splurging on top tier stuff beyond this. For example, following the law of diminishing returns, if the difference between an Ultrarendu and a Signature Rendu SE is already less than the difference between an Ultrarendu and a Mac / PC, then the difference between the uR and the SrSE would be flattened to presumably inaudible levels when running through the Eitr. However, the SrSE is about double the cost of an uR setup with a decent LPS. This is all theory and guesswork, of course... But, without being able to actually audition all this stuff, this is my lot in trying to find the best sound without overspending. Maybe I'm overthinking this... Also a huge possibility

Thanks so much for the well thought message, much appreciated... And I agree on all points. After 12 years in this hobby, I still have to mentally pinch myself to remember how subjective much of it is, while other aspects are more cut and dry, objective science. Cool, thanks. I caught that this was the general consensus, which is pretty amazing. There was a guy earlier who stated he could hear a slight difference between his MBP and mR, but it sounded like it was very subtle, and not worth the cost of entry. It seems like this is such a game changer / disrupter that I'm having trouble letting go of the idea that we need heavily tweaked and expensive digital front ends... All the work and research from past years has left deep tracks.

Hey all - good discussion here, and active, so I thought I would run something by you that I've been swimming with for a few weeks. I recently had my Yggy upgraded to gen 5 USB. I have been planning on moving from my current optimized audio PC to either an Ultrarendu or Signature Rendu SE. Now that I'm hearing all the great reports on the Eitr / Gen 5, I'm really hazy on where the line is between 'audible difference' and 'unnecessary expenditure'. I guess it's a pretty good problem to have, really... I'm now running a Roon server on my network, so I only need an 'endpoint'. To be clear, here are my three options, basically: 1. Current PC (w/ linear power, audiophile Optimizer, JPlay, win server 2012, SSD) - $0 2. Ultrarendu + CI LPS - $1200 3. Signature Rendu SE - $3000 To be clear, I'm not made of money, but for a while I was pretty set on going for the long haul on just saving for a SrSE... But now, I'm thinking, maybe that would sound identical to the Ultrarendu with a decent LPS when feeding the Eitr / Gen 5... Which would mean I would be throwing considerable money to the wind. On the other hand, I'm assuming that Ultrarendu would sound slightly better than my current audio PC, but maybe not! So, I don't know... I thought I would open my thoughts to you guys to see what you think. With respect to Sonore, who I greatly respect, I just want to make clear that I'm not calling into question the advantages of the SrSE over the uR in general, as I'm sure the two products are tremendous in their own space... But, rather, this is a question pertaining to their performance with the Eitr / Gen 5 in particular. I'll finish with this thought - one of the biggest marked changes between these devices are the quality of their power supplies... Between a decent LPS and an extraordinary LPS, is the only performance difference due to what noise ends up coming through the USB signal? And, if so, is this rendered a moot point because of the excellent isolation of the Eitr / Gen 5? These are the questions that are running circles in my mind, and since they are so specific to these particular, relatively new devices, I'm finding no answers through extensive searching. Any and all input is much appreciated.

Hey guys,This seems to be fairly rugged territory, with much room for experimentation and variation based on many different factors.After doing a fair bit more reading since I made this post, I discovered and purchased two HDPlex 400w HiFi DC-ATX adapters / converters. They are reportedly much better for audio than the PicoPSU's I was using.This seemed like a trade off to me in theory... On one hand, with the PicoPSU I could split the leads into separate LPS's (as I had done). However, the PicoPSU won't perform as well as it's not designed to be a quiet, audiophile grade component. On the other hand, the way the input is designed on the HDPlex, it looks like I could not split the leads into different LPS's, nor would I want to given that I would have to do some serious hacking into my new and fairly pricy new parts. However, I'm banking on the idea that this wouldn't even be of much benefit anyways because the regulation of the HDPlex will be so good that it will be similar or better when running it with one LPS as the PicoPSU was with multiple PSU's.So, we have a more 'dirty' DC-ATX converter with multiple LPS's versus a more 'clean' DC-ATX converter with one LPS. I chose the latter, partly because I also liked the idea of minimizing my LPS bank from 6 to 2, thus minimizing transformer hum, power usage, and power field interference... And at the same time tidying up my system aesthetically. I thought I would just write that as a follow up to my original post in case someone comes across it in the future when searching for info, finding themselves with similar questions. Happy listening!

Hey everyone, My system has been disassembled for a while as I build a new audio room / studio... now that I'm almost done, I'm beginning to put the pieces back together again. I have a two PC setup running JPLAY and AO. It's nothing too fancy beyond that, other than the computers being both very quiet and built with select low power / high quality components. I left off having done some experimental work with a couple other computer audiophiles on the power supplies. We had run the CPU power lead to one linear power supply, the motherboard leads to another LPS, and the hard drive power to a third LPS. I did this with both computers (control PC and audio PC), so I ended up with 6 linear power supplies in total. The big picture idea was that by isolating the power supply between the CPU, HDD, and motherboard, everything would have less power noise cross talk and perform cleaner in general. Now that I'm returning to my setup again, I'm wondering if this is actually worth the extra power draw and clutter... Plus with six power supplies, the transformer hum is more present (but not bad). Perhaps using just one highest wattage LPS for each computer would sound just as good, worse, or better perhaps (due to the more robust power available). Perhaps it would be so close that any differences would be indistinguishable... As far as tidiness of my system, reducing the power supplies from six smaller LPS's to two larger ones is very preferable. I thought I would ask for some thoughts from the members here who might have experience or knowledge with this... Perhaps someone has done some knowledge as to why one setup would be preferable to another. To be specific, if I paired down from six supplies to two, the two 'new' supplies would be higher wattage (400 W), where-as the current six supplies are each smaller (two 100W, two 200W, and two 50W). I made a couple (very crude) diagrams to make sure I'm being clear -- Current setup: Potential change: