I have been interested in improving the sound quality from my ipod Nano and shuffle for a while - you just feel they are capable of better! I have some ADM9 speakers and a Nano connected straight in to these active speakers gives great results. This should be able to be recreated for portable use using a decent portable headphone amp. The Graham Slee Voyager in the UK is designed for just this. Anyone tried it, or similar? Phil.
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Haven't tried the Graham
Haven't tried the Graham Slee. Have you looked at some of the Headroom options? What about Ray Sammuels Audio?
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Thanks Chris, Have you tried
Thanks Chris, Have you tried any of these products (or has anyone else?). Phil.
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I have the Headroom Ultra
I have the Headroom Ultra Micro Amp and Ultra Micro DAC in for review right now. I haven't spent enough tie with them to offer a full opinion yet.
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Perhaps cutting a bit below
Perhaps cutting a bit below the what you're looking at, but I've gotten a lot of enjoyment with my Headroom Bithead.
Very nice as it has both the analog input for the iPod, but also USB input so you can use it with your computer. Love that flexibility. Also has a high and low gain setting. It won't have the dynamics, boost and richness of the more expensive units.
I'm using mine with Grado SR-200 cans.
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Headroom balanced desktop
I have the Headroom balanced desktop and Senn 650's. It sounds great but I don't use it much for the ipod because it's overkill. I normally just plug my $50 Senn PX100's into the ipod and the sound is nearly as good. Without a digital output from the ipod it's hard to justify much expense to squeeze the very best possible sound out of it.
I have thought about grabbing the Bithead, which would allow me to use the digital output from my laptop and would probably improve the sound of my PX100's a little. But I wouldn't spend that kind of money just for the ipod.
My other advice is that if you really want to sink some cash into a headphone amp for the ipod, get an amp with a volume control and take the output from the ipod's bottom connector, rather than the headphone jack. That will bypass the final amplification stage in the ipod.
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Thanks for all this advice.
Thanks for all this advice. I think the key issue with UK/EU ipods is they are so volume limited - that is why I am after a headphone amp. I get the impression USA ipods may not have such limited volume?
Phil
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I think you are correct
I think you are correct about the EU volume limitation. Ours over here in the US are loud and lovely :-)
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Yeah man unlock the volume
Yeah man unlock the volume limit on your ipod - google will find it easily for you.
I have had many portable headphone amps including RSA, Head-Amp, iBasso... actually there's no point in listing them, the point is they make only a very small difference to sound quality IMO. Best result is via a Line Out Dock (LOD) from the dock connector of your iPod into a 3.5mm which will connect to your amp.
Other option is to ebay a non EU iPod which doesn't have the volume limitation (what's up with you European kids and your pretty little sensitive ears anyway???)
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Thanks - I am amazed that EU
Thanks - I am amazed that EU ipods are quieter than US ones - I would have thought Apple would have made them inaudible in the litigation mad US!
I have a Graham Slee headphone amp now. The line out from a Nano into the GS playing lossless sounds pretty darn good! Mind you, a shuffle playing AAC into the GS also sounds nice - a warmer, softer sound. The only disadvantage of course is the system is more bulky, but still portable.
I guess we are all waiting for ipods with digital output so we can really unlock their potential via external DAC, amps, etc.
Phil
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ADM9
Is the Nano your only source for ADM9?
System 1: Mac Mini > AVI ADM9.1 / ADM9 subwoofer
System 2: AEX > Plinius 8100 > AVI Neutron 5
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